What would you do with #2?

[Phrazbit]

I agree that signing him won't make us a contender or anything, but that along with moves can make this team not so brutal to watch like it has been the past 2 years.

This team has lacked a go to scorer for the past 2 years...the last time we had a go to scorer, we went to the WCFs....I don't see why that seems so impossible now...especially considering that we are a better defensive team now with Gortat and everything. And while there may be the excuse "Well Nash and Hill are old so they suck now" but honestly, is there THAT much of a difference in their games from the WCFs season and the last 2?

And we've already had this conversation about Gordon before, why don't you just agree to disagree? Its impossible to pick a right or wrong in this case until next season and we see how Gordon plays, whether that's with the Hornets, Suns or some other team.

Yes, because Gordon is a shooter and the Suns could find a much more cost effective way to spread the floor than spending 100 million on a guy who cant stay healthy and only helps in one area.

But most importantly, like you said, he does not make the Suns a contender, even in your opinion he merely allows them to tread water. And as Nash and Hill decline we end up with an expensive and lousy roster.

I dont see the incentive to make a huge future altering decision where the BEST case scenario involves 1 or 2 years of being a 7 or 8 seed.

 

[sunsfan88]

Yes, because Gordon is a shooter and the Suns could find a much more cost effective way to spread the floor than spending 100 million on a guy who cant stay healthy and only helps in one area.

But most importantly, like you said, he does not make the Suns a contender, even in your opinion he merely allows them to tread water. And as Nash and Hill decline we end up with an expensive and lousy roster.

I dont see the incentive to make a huge future altering decision where the BEST case scenario involves 1 or 2 years of being a 7 or 8 seed.

I disagree. I think if you ask any Clipper or Hornets fan, they'll tell you that Gordon is more than just a shooter. He can create for himself, drive to the rim to either finish or get fouled despite his size because of his athleticism.

But there a lot of superstar players who by themselves won't make a team contender yet they are likely going to get WAY more than what Gordon will get.

Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook, Blake Griffin, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Carmelo Anthony, A'mare are all players who will not any make any team contender unless there are already All-Star level or close to that type players on the team. Yet all those players will soon receive max contracts, or are already on it.

I understand that none of those players ^^^ have health issues like Gordon does well except maybe A'mare. But I feel like that is a risk the Suns HAVE to take because I don't see them drafting any player who will be a superstar or getting the shot at signing any in the future (and honestly the only I see in the next 3 years is James Harden)

 

[sunsfan88]

Oh and cross Indy off the list of "potential suitors" for Eric Gordon...

MikeWells NBA U can cross Eric Gordon off the Pacers' wish list. Bird said they don't go after restricted free agents because that's not Simon's style

https://twitter.com/#!/mikewellsnba

 

[Phrazbit]

I disagree. I think if you ask any Clipper or Hornets fan, they'll tell you that Gordon is more than just a shooter. He can create for himself, drive to the rim to either finish or get fouled despite his size because of his athleticism.

But there a lot of superstar players who by themselves won't make a team contender yet they are likely going to get WAY more than what Gordon will get.

Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook, Blake Griffin, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Carmelo Anthony, A'mare are all players who will not any make any team contender unless there are already All-Star level or close to that type players on the team. Yet all those players will soon receive max contracts, or are already on it.

I understand that none of those players ^^^ have health issues like Gordon does well except maybe A'mare. But I feel like that is a risk the Suns HAVE to take because I don't see them drafting any player who will be a superstar or getting the shot at signing any in the future (and honestly the only I see in the next 3 years is James Harden)

They would have a chance to draft those kinds of players if they decided to rebuild in earnest. But you're right, if they do stupid things like giving Gordon and other unworthy "max" players a huge wad of cash they will find themselves continually drafting 10th-14th and without the cap flexibility to sign an impact player.

Basically you spelled out exactly why they SHOULD NOT consider signing Gordon.

 

[slinslin]

booo #13 pick...........

 

[slinslin]

And now sunfan88 can stop the ridiculous Eric Gordon hype because New Orleans won't let him go now that they have already found their franchise player in Anthony Davis.

Too bad our front office is too freaking stupid to tank a worthless season.

"rely on ping pong ball" what non-sense. Worst 3 teams ended up with the top 3 picks.

 

[Cheesebeef]

and THAT'S why that Lakers NO trade was ******** and a terrible deal for NO. They would have had a team that probably won 40 games and would have basically been in purgatory, instead of realizing they needed a complete rebuild-suckitude season so they could put themselves in the best position possible to get a difference maker... which they did.

 

[sunsfan88]

They would have a chance to draft those kinds of players if they decided to rebuild in earnest. But you're right, if they do stupid things like giving Gordon and other unworthy "max" players a huge wad of cash they will find themselves continually drafting 10th-14th and without the cap flexibility to sign an impact player.

Basically you spelled out exactly why they SHOULD NOT consider signing Gordon.

Yea but they NEVER will "rebuild in earnest"

If you watched the Suns long enough and have followed Sarver's moves since becoming owner of the franchise, then you would already know that.

IMO it comes down to, would you rather the Suns giving huge contracts to guys like Beasley or Mayo, or giving a huge contract to Gordon?

And for me, that answer is Gordon. Simply cause he has a lot of potential, and if he can find a way to stay healthy (which our training staff is known for) he MAY be a star player for us and revive this sorry team.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Trade #13 pick + Channing Frye + Josh Childress + Hakim Warrick + Robin Lopez for any starting caliber PF please...

 

[Phrazbit]

Yea but they NEVER will "rebuild in earnest"

If you watched the Suns long enough and have followed Sarver's moves since becoming owner of the franchise, then you would already know that.

IMO it comes down to, would you rather the Suns giving huge contracts to guys like Beasley or Mayo, or giving a huge contract to Gordon?

And for me, that answer is Gordon. Simply cause he has a lot of potential, and if he can find a way to stay healthy (which our training staff is known for) he MAY be a star player for us and revive this sorry team.

So would I rather have the Suns be extremely awful or just awful? I'd rather they be smart and rebuild. They have a new front office group and I will hold out hope and do the right thing.

 

[Phrazbit]

And the Hornets landing the #1 pick will probably end what little hope your scenario had.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

and THAT'S why that Lakers NO trade was ******** and a terrible deal for NO. They would have had a team that probably won 40 games and would have basically been in purgatory, instead of realizing they needed a complete rebuild-suckitude season so they could put themselves in the best position possible to get a difference maker... which they did.

What's wrong with you? Don't you realize we have the opportunity again to build around a 39 year old and a pile of horseshit to get a late lottery pick, or even better, get eviscerated by the Spurs or Thunder (or any other half decent team) next year?

We can also stockpile talent and find our next *****, who will undoubtedly be a perennial all star.


What's not fun about that?

 

[Rivercard]

and THAT'S why that Lakers NO trade was ******** and a terrible deal for NO. They would have had a team that probably won 40 games and would have basically been in purgatory, instead of realizing they needed a complete rebuild-suckitude season so they could put themselves in the best position possible to get a difference maker... which they did.

No doubt that Laker non-trade was a pile of crap for NO. Gasol would not have made them 40-22, but I agree he would have taken them out of the lottery. At least the clippers deal gave them a future. Gordon is a young high-upside player and in hindsight they were lucky he didn't play much this year. If he would have been healthy no way the Hornets would have been in the running to get the golden ping pong ball.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No doubt that Laker non-trade was a pile of crap for NO. Gasol would not have made them 40-22, but I agree he would have taken them out of the lottery. At least the clippers deal gave them a future. Gordon is a young high-upside player and in hindsight they were lucky he didn't play much this year. If he would have been healthy no way the Hornets would have been in the running to get the golden ping pong ball.

that was the biggest kick of that deal... NO wasn't even going to get Gasol. He was going to Houston in that deal. I mean... they weren't even getting the best player. They were getting a bunch of REALLY good 6th men.

 

[Rivercard]

that was the biggest kick of that deal... NO wasn't even going to get Gasol. He was going to Houston in that deal. I mean... they weren't even getting the best player. They were getting a bunch of REALLY good 6th men.

lol, that's right there was another layer. Man, what a gift the Lakers almost got. Thank heavens the Grinch Stern stopped Santa Clause before he shimmied down that chimney.

 

[Cheesebeef]

lol, that's right there was another layer. Man, what a gift the Lakers almost got. Thank heavens the Grinch Stern stopped Santa Clause before he shimmied down that chimney.

yup. Kobe, Paul and Bynum would have been a really dangerous Big 3.

 

[sunsfan88]

The Hornets would have got Dragic, Gasol and Scola wouldn't they?

Dragic played fantastic this season so he might have helped Hornets fans forget about CP3 but I agree Gasol and Scola are just old and useless.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Hornets would have got Dragic, Gasol and Scola wouldn't they?

Dragic played fantastic this season so he might have helped Hornets fans forget about CP3 but I agree Gasol and Scola are just old and useless.

they would have gotten Odom, Scola and Dragic and Martin. in other words... they would have been the Phoenix Suns... a 9 or 10 seed and stuck with a payroll that would keep them that way for eons.

 

[sunsfan88]

Oh yea I forget they got Odom...him by himself would ruin New Orleans.