What2Watch4: Cards vs. Rams

[Jetstream Green]

Bruh!

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As a Ram fan look at Marshall Faulk, David Johnson is him on steroids. By the way, I believe you made a statement that the Rams will dominate for years to come in part to their defense... tell us how the Rams are going to manipulate the cap space to keep a ton of #1 picks on the DL happy for years to come and then your statement makes sense

 

[BigRedRage]

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We'll see. So far you can make a case for both. Most fantasy leagues drafted them both above all others

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[LoyalRam]

As a Ram fan look at Marshall Faulk, David Johnson is him on steroids. By the way, I believe you made a statement that the Rams will dominate for years to come in part to their defense... tell us how the Rams are going to manipulate the cap space to keep a ton of #1 picks on the DL happy for years to come and then your statement makes sense

You did NOT just compare Hall of Fame RB Marshall Faulk with David Johnson, did you? Please post which season that Johnson rolled up more than 2000 total yards in a season.

As for our defense and the "ton of 1st round picks" that we have to resign. Aaron Donald will most likely be the biggest chunk of cap space, and they will sign him early for less money (for long term security) this year. Former high picks that you are remembering, are gone now..Chris Long and James Laurenitais. Michael Brockers has been resigned already. Most of the others are not first rounders, so....

Getting back to Johnson, he benefits tremendously by your passing game, which Gurley is dealing with 8+ in the box because no one respects Keenum. Don't make judgements about the studliness of Todd Gurley until he has the same advantages as Johnson has in Carson Palmer, in my opinion anyways...

 

[Jetstream Green]

You did NOT just compare Hall of Fame RB Marshall Faulk with David Johnson, did you? Please post which season that Johnson rolled up more than 2000 total yards in a season.

As for our defense and the "ton of 1st round picks" that we have to resign. Aaron Donald will most likely be the biggest chunk of cap space, and they will sign him early for less money (for long term security) this year. Former high picks that you are remembering, are gone now..Chris Long and James Laurenitais. Michael Brockers has been resigned already. Most of the others are not first rounders, so....

Getting back to Johnson, he benefits tremendously by your passing game, which Gurley is dealing with 8+ in the box because no one respects Keenum. Don't make judgements about the studliness of Todd Gurley until he has the same advantages as Johnson has in Carson Palmer, in my opinion anyways...

That is a nice assumption on Donald if your team is not a playoff contender at the end of the year and your rookie QB is no franchise QB, because money will be the only thing to hold him with the coaching upheaval which will happen if they do not win

I have watched both guys played. Gurley is a great back but since Johnson is one among many weapons on a Cardinal offense and does not come from a big school, do not let it lead you to believe that my comment on Johnson does not hold any validity. Johnson is special, Johnson has had no major knee surgeries I am aware of, and Marshall Faulk himself has been captivated towards David Johnson and said he would love to mentor the kid... yes, you damn right I made a comparison to Faulk and stand by my belief from what I have seen so far

 

[cardncubfan]

I will make this statement... the Ram DL is the best in the NFL but in all honesty, Gurley is a great back but David Johnson is superior to the kid

I've had this argument on a Rams board ROD. They are unaware of the potential of DJ.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I've had this argument on a Rams board ROD. They are unaware of the potential of DJ.

The here and now he is better and has excellent potential to be not only a good player but a Hall of Famer, his rookie year was insane with the opportunities provided to him. We have already seen the right side of our line do jack squat and DJ adapt with his talent and turn plays into big plays. Gurley to me is better than all that hype surrounding Elliot with the Cowboys but he is not David Johnson

 

[cardncubfan]

The here and now he is better and has excellent potential to be not only a good player but a Hall of Famer, his rookie year was insane with the opportunities provided to him. We have already seen the right side of our line do jack squat and DJ adapt with his talent and turn plays into big plays. Gurley to me is better than all that hype surrounding Elliot with the Cowboys but he is not David Johnson

I fully agree JG.

 

[TJ]

Why put up the link if you don't believe in the analysis?

66% Consensus the Bengals would beat the Broncos (they didn't)
95% Consensus the Panthers would beat the Vikings (nope)
85% Consensus that the G-men would beat Washington (wrong)
95% Consensus that Tampa would beat the Rams (not true)
91% Consensus that the Steelers would overcome the Eagles (Apocal-Wentz)
69% Consensus that the Aints were gonna beat the Falcons (never happened)

Good site!

It's a freaking site that compiles picks from football writers, analysts and public polls. Not intended for in depth analysis. If you're going to have such an upset reaction at someone pointing out what others feel about the game (which wasn't even directed in your direction), then you need to reevaluate your priorities. It's totally ok when people don't take things as seriously as you.

 

[mojorizen7]

As a Ram fan look at Marshall Faulk, David Johnson is him on steroids.

Just stop with that nonsense. I'm a fan of DJ and he's still growing as a player but he couldn't catch Faulk in a closet...not to mention the football IQ, route running, stop and go ability. I could go on and on.

Johnson is a very good young RB but slow down with the HOF stuff.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Just stop with that nonsense. I'm a fan of DJ and he's still growing as a player but he couldn't catch Faulk in a closet...not to mention the football IQ, route running, stop and go ability. I could go on and on.

Johnson is a very good young RB but slow down with the HOF stuff.

Hey, didn't you post before with a very attractive woman as your avatar... you could convince me that Goff was Roman Gabriel with that one Mojorizen lol

 

[LoyalRam]

Just stop with that nonsense. I'm a fan of DJ and he's still growing as a player but he couldn't catch Faulk in a closet...not to mention the football IQ, route running, stop and go ability. I could go on and on.

Johnson is a very good young RB but slow down with the HOF stuff.

Preach it...It is not putting Johnson down to say he is not even close to Marshall Faulk at this point..not many are, or have ever been.

 

[mojorizen7]

Hey, didn't you post before with a very attractive woman as your avatar... you could convince me that Goff was Roman Gabriel with that one Mojorizen lol

That was RMFN. Haven't seen or heard from him in ages on any board.

 

[mojorizen7]

Preach it...It is not putting Johnson down to say he is not even close to Marshall Faulk at this point..not many are, or have ever been.

Yeah i can tolerate the DJ vs Gurley comparisons...but this Faulk stuff is silly.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yeah i can tolerate the DJ vs Gurley comparisons...but this Faulk stuff is silly.

I'm not comparing him to Gurley... he is a lot better than him lol

 

[Jetstream Green]

That was RMFN. Haven't seen or heard from him in ages on any board.

You must find him, or we will just keep having these ridiculous arguments

 

[THESMEL]

We will run the ball, slow their pass rush, earn Palmer more time in the pocket and win - or pass ourselves to death again-

I think we will witness the death of a cardinal ballet again - from what I've read on the main site - fitz defending the one dimensional play calling - Rb's will get 1/3 of the offensive snaps again- we will get rammed on offense and defense

 

[Jetstream Green]

Preach it...It is not putting Johnson down to say he is not even close to Marshall Faulk at this point..not many are, or have ever been.

Actually, if you look at Johnson in comparison to Faulk at this point in their careers... you would say Marshall Faulk was not Marshall Faulk and Johnson was

 

[LoyalRam]

Actually, if you look at Johnson in comparison to Faulk at this point in their careers... you would say Marshall Faulk was not Marshall Faulk and Johnson was

But that's a mirage. We know what Faulk did in the totality of his career, while Johnson's could end today. No one is saying Johnson sucks.....Just slow yur roll in trying to say he is better than a HOFer

 

[BigRedRage]

Yeah i can tolerate the DJ vs Gurley comparisons...but this Faulk stuff is silly.

i dont think people are saying he is faulk or as good as faulk, it is more of he plays like faulk so it is a comparable to put him next to just as a potential of what he could be. Obviously just yet, he is not faulk.

However he is clearly a running threat, a receiving threat, was a return man threat when doing returns and etc. he is definitely a Faulk like RB. A swiss army knife. Will he be as good as faulk was? that would take ten more years to find out.

 

[BigRedRage]

But that's a mirage. We know what Faulk did in the totality of his career, while Johnson's could end today. No one is saying Johnson sucks.....Just slow yur roll in trying to say he is better than a HOFer

Even saying "faulk on steroids" imo is just that hes bigger.

He reminds you of Faulk, doesnt mean he will have a similar career.

 

[cardncubfan]

Some amazing stats on DJ

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...-4-of-nfl-season/ar-BBwQtlC?li=BBnba9I#page=3

''When the Cardinals selected Johnson in the third round of the 2015 NFL Draft, the common fan had never really heard much about the small-school product.

Shameless plug here, but Sportsnaut actually predicted the success we’re seeing from the second-year player. Okay, well we had no real idea just how good he was going to be.

Through the first three games of the 2016 season, Johnson has tallied 386 total yards of offense on 57 touches. That’s an average of 6.8 yards every time he gets his hands on the ball. This comes on the heels of Johnson putting up 6.4 yards per touch as a rookie.

Oh, we might also want to add that he knows how to score. The Northern Iowa product is scoring one touchdown per 14.5 touches during his young career."

A great article on DJ from May of 2015 written by our own Shaun Church

http://sportsnaut.com/2015/05/arizo...johnson-is-best-value-pick-of-2015-nfl-draft/

 

[gmabel830]

We will run the ball, slow their pass rush, earn Palmer more time in the pocket and win - or pass ourselves to death again-

I think we will witness the death of a cardinal ballet again - from what I've read on the main site - fitz defending the one dimensional play calling - Rb's will get 1/3 of the offensive snaps again- we will get rammed on offense and defense

BA said it will be low scoring game..I expect us to be a lot more balanced on offense than last week.

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[Jetstream Green]

Even saying "faulk on steroids" imo is just that hes bigger.

He reminds you of Faulk, doesnt mean he will have a similar career.

That is what I meant, a bigger version of Faulk. He reminds me of Faulk and I never once what he has done now is on par with Faulk at his prime but he sure the hell is on par with Faulk when they both started out and seems to be on his way. And for the record, again Gurley is a good back but to me is limited compared to the weapon DJ is. I have not seen one play by Gurley which made me say DJ could not have done that but I have seen a few plays by DJ which Gurley and a number of other good young backs could not

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't see Faulk. To be honest, I don't see any RB to really comare him to at this point... Which is a good thing. The great ones end up being something completely unto themselves.

His combo of cutting ability, power/stiff arm and speed are pretty unique.

 

[cardncubfan]

That is what I meant, a bigger version of Faulk. He reminds me of Faulk and I never once what he has done now is on par with Faulk at his prime but he sure the hell is on par with Faulk when they both started out and seems to be on his way. And for the record, again Gurley is a good back but to me is limited compared to the weapon DJ is. I have not seen one play by Gurley which made me say DJ could not have done that but I have seen a few plays by DJ which Gurley and a number of other good young backs could not

I agree yet over on the Rams board they are saying they wouldn't trade Gurley for DJ & two #1 picks let alone straight up. They are delusional.