Whiz: Beanie is our starter

[desertdawg]

Do it.

 

[THESMEL]

New fashioned

Has anybody seen the Beans weight in camp? is he still 228ish? I like 238ish on him

just a few more beans and.......

He'll murder them mamma jamma's.

Do it.

 

[desertdawg]

Has anybody seen the Beans weight in camp? is he still 228ish? I like 238ish on him

just a few more beans and.......

He'll murder them mamma jamma's.

Man he just better stay on Whiz's good side and the opportunities will come all season. Only thing worse than Beanies backfield trip is his press conference lip. I still want to see the Az Cards run it at least 40% of the time, and that's still not a high % in this league.

 

[THESMEL]

ouch

I would rather have seen 60% runs last year. I think we had the least amount of offensive plays in the NFL last year? I want 50/50 this year but 45% runs would win the west.

20 Beanie runs a game is 320. leaving plenty for RWILL and LSH.

THT had less than 10 per game average at 153 and Beanie had 116 at 7 something a game.

averaging 17 runs a game is not your grandfathers Cardinals, Its the same 33% run game that died in Nawlings with 6 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4 in a divisional playoff game.

Weve fallen and were getting back up. I can feel it,

49 Seahawks Rammed by Beanie, sets the tone for Kevin Kolb to play spectacular.

Man he just better stay on Whiz's good side and the opportunities will come all season. Only thing worse than Beanies backfield trip is his press conference lip. I still want to see the Az Cards run it at least 40% of the time, and that's still not a high % in this league.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Since when does the 38th pick mean anything when it comes to a starting role. Teams worry whether their #1 pick can contribute. I sure as hell know they aren't naming the 38 pick a starter and making roster decisions based on that. If he beats him out, fine, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Mitch is just mad because they let his boy, TH go.
It will probably work out where Wells gets 14-23 carries a game and Williams gets 7-12. As the season goes along it will be adjusted based on performance.

Really, I think it comes to how much sack Williams has. Because Hightower had alot and, therefore, a great RB, atm(according to Mitch).

What pick was JJ Arrington again?

 

[Perfectionist]

I would rather have seen 60% runs last year. I think we had the least amount of offensive plays in the NFL last year? I want 50/50 this year but 45% runs would win the west.

20 Beanie runs a game is 320. leaving plenty for RWILL and LSH.

THT had less than 10 per game average at 153 and Beanie had 116 at 7 something a game.

averaging 17 runs a game is not your grandfathers Cardinals, Its the same 33% run game that died in Nawlings with 6 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4 in a divisional playoff game.

Weve fallen and were getting back up. I can feel it,

49 Seahawks Rammed by Beanie, sets the tone for Kevin Kolb to play spectacular.

And with all the two tight ends sets we will be showing this year, I might just think we will finally have the running game we need. Which then would set Kolb to Fitz.....TD!!!!

 

[Duckjake]

Since when does the 38th pick mean anything when it comes to a starting role. Teams worry whether their #1 pick can contribute. I sure as hell know they aren't naming the 38 pick a starter and making roster decisions based on that. If he beats him out, fine, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Mitch is just mad because they let his boy, TH go.
It will probably work out where Wells gets 14-23 carries a game and Williams gets 7-12. As the season goes along it will be adjusted based on performance.

Really, I think it comes to how much sack Williams has. Because Hightower had alot and, therefore, a great RB, atm(according to Mitch).

What pick was JJ Arrington again?

What pick was Chris Wells? Mitch's comment might carry more weight if CKW hadn't used the 31st pick to get Chris.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What pick was Chris Wells? Mitch's comment might carry more weight if CKW hadn't used the 31st pick to get Chris.

I agree. They are two young RB's who will both get carries and fight it out. They could be used alot like McFadden and Bush or Williams and Stewart.

 

[TJ]

I don't know if any of you saw the new episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm last night...but one of the funniest things was how Larry was pointed out how when people raise their voices and higher their pitch when they are asked a question that this signals a sure lie.

Let's just put it this way...what's the over/under on what week Ryan Williams becomes the starter?

Week 1?

Week 2?

Week 3?

Week 4?

Whiz didn't use the #38 pick in the draft for backup help.

They also traded THT because it clarified the matter considerably.

Last point: so many of you fall into the trap (as I have far too many times---so listen to an old fart like me because I've learned something) of placing so much hope in high draft picks that it jades your real vision---i.e. Matt Leinart---now Beanie Wells---

The writing is on the wall---as it was last year with ML---you don't draft a RB at #38---especially in light of eschewing your major defensive needs---because you want a 3rd down RB.

Let's just get to the bottom of it right now: Ryan Williams is and will be the feature RB of the Arizona Cardinals, not Beanie Wells.

There was a tweet from Somers at camp today where he said "Williams is the starter...#2 TBD."

Already.

I will save you the angst.

You cannot trust what Whiz says---in fact you are better off reading the opposite.

Go back and read the title of the thread: "Beanie is the starter" Says nothing about Williams. Your boy will get his touches, don't worry.

He was drafted because both Wells and THT had a case of fumblitis (THT more so along with dropped passes) and THT was not re-signing with us after the season. Nice to see the team be proactive about the situation.

As for Whiz; I understand you have some sort of personal vendetta against the guy (you have indicated as much), but take a step back and realize this isn't last year's situation. This year, we have no QB fiasco (thank goodness). Leinart was a different story than the much more benign runningback non sequitur issue. Whiz, for all intents and purposes, did not want the Matty. The team brought in Anderson (sigh), then Whiz wanted Bulger, which was declined by the FO.

I digress. It's a non-issue. Matt is gone. DA is gone. We have a better QB on the payroll and a project QB whose priority is not to party with co-eds and Nick Lachey. I hate revisiting this issue.

Moreover, you are not a good running team if 1) you have no line 2) you have less than 2 productive backs and 3) the ball is on the carpet all of the time. Because of 1) and 3), I'm still not convinced we will be able to run the ball to Whiz's liking, regardless. The RBs have to be able to get across the LOS and not get hit in the process. Happened too many times last year.

Time will tell, but the bottom line is we have good prospects at the position. The blocking needs to shore up and everything will be fine.

In Whiz I trust. I don't listen to Janet Jackson's, "What Have You Done for Me Lately" for a reason. 2010 is an afterthought.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He was drafted because Wells had a case of fumblitis

2010: Wells 116 carries 1 fumble .

 

[Mulli]

I am thinking the problem with Beanie is not running with enough authority ie breaking tackles breaking long runs etc.

 

[D-Dogg]

I am thinking the problem with Beanie is not running with enough authority ie breaking tackles breaking long runs etc.

I am thinking the problem with Beanie is people thinking there are too many problems with Beanie.

 

[D-Dogg]

2010: Wells 116 carries 1 fumble .

Why, how dare he!

 

[TJ]

2010: Wells 116 carries 1 fumble .

The previous season was a different story. THT eventuallly became more of a liability in that department.

 

[Mulli]

I am thinking the problem with Beanie is people thinking there are too many problems with Beanie.

Oh sure, he is the best ever. Hardly any problems with his performance at all.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I am thinking the problem with Beanie is people thinking there are too many problems with Beanie.

Chris is going to be a monster this year.

 

[TJ]

Oh sure, he is the best ever. Hardly any problems with his performance at all.

SMEL has him at an elite 95. That says something about his potential

jk I think he'll do well this season

 

[D-Dogg]

Oh sure, he is the best ever. Hardly any problems with his performance at all.

Not as much as people make out to be. And given he had an injury and reaction to medication on top of it contributing to his performance last year, I think people are reaching too much to find other reasons for "what's wrong with beanie?"

I was at a KTAR event a couple of months ago, and Whis was asked what's wrong with Beanie, and he went off on the questioner. I was kind of surprised but he was very defensive of The Bean to the point of almost anger. This was after drafting Williams. Whis expects big things from Beanie, and thought despite his issues last year, he was a tough competitor to try and play as much as he did.

The handwringing over wells is premature, IMO. And it seems, In Whis' opinion as well.

 

[Mulli]

Not as much as people make out to be. And given he had an injury and reaction to medication on top of it contributing to his performance last year, I think people are reaching too much to find other reasons for "what's wrong with beanie?"

I was at a KTAR event a couple of months ago, and Whis was asked what's wrong with Beanie, and he went off on the questioner. I was kind of surprised but he was very defensive of The Bean to the point of almost anger. This was after drafting Williams. Whis expects big things from Beanie, and thought despite his issues last year, he was a tough competitor to try and play as much as he did.

The handwringing over wells is premature, IMO. And it seems, In Whis' opinion as well.

Coachspeak.

 

[D-Dogg]

Coachspeak.

LOL, you had to be there. If the guy asking would have been within striking range, I think whis would have clocked him. That was why I had no doubt if a RB was going to be moved, it wasn't going to be beanie.

My question to him about the OL was awesome, and before he answered it with coachspeak, he said "wow..that's a really good question." : patselfonback:

 

[Mulli]

LOL, you had to be there. If the guy asking would have been within striking range, I think whis would have clocked him. That was why I had no doubt if a RB was going to be moved, it wasn't going to be beanie.

My question to him about the OL was awesome, and before he answered it with coachspeak, he said "wow..that's a really good question." : patselfonback:

You rule, Mr. President.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

LOL, you had to be there. If the guy asking would have been within striking range, I think whis would have clocked him. That was why I had no doubt if a RB was going to be moved, it wasn't going to be beanie.

My question to him about the OL was awesome, and before he answered it with coachspeak, he said "wow..that's a really good question." : patselfonback:

what was the question?

 

[Mitch]

Go back and read the title of the thread: "Beanie is the starter" Says nothing about Williams. Your boy will get his touches, don't worry.

He was drafted because both Wells and THT had a case of fumblitis (THT more so along with dropped passes) and THT was not re-signing with us after the season. Nice to see the team be proactive about the situation.

As for Whiz; I understand you have some sort of personal vendetta against the guy (you have indicated as much), but take a step back and realize this isn't last year's situation. This year, we have no QB fiasco (thank goodness). Leinart was a different story than the much more benign runningback non sequitur issue. Whiz, for all intents and purposes, did not want the Matty. The team brought in Anderson (sigh), then Whiz wanted Bulger, which was declined by the FO.

I digress. It's a non-issue. Matt is gone. DA is gone. We have a better QB on the payroll and a project QB whose priority is not to party with co-eds and Nick Lachey. I hate revisiting this issue.

Moreover, you are not a good running team if 1) you have no line 2) you have less than 2 productive backs and 3) the ball is on the carpet all of the time. Because of 1) and 3), I'm still not convinced we will be able to run the ball to Whiz's liking, regardless. The RBs have to be able to get across the LOS and not get hit in the process. Happened too many times last year.

Time will tell, but the bottom line is we have good prospects at the position. The blocking needs to shore up and everything will be fine.

In Whiz I trust. I don't listen to Janet Jackson's, "What Have You Done for Me Lately" for a reason. 2010 is an afterthought.

I don't have a personal vendetta against Whiz, TJ. I just find him disingenuous.

 

[D-Dogg]

what was the question?

"So, you have Faneca retiring, leaving a gaping hole in your oline that already wasn't what we hoped it would be last year. You've talked a lot about the QB focus when free agency starts. Are we going to be just as aggressive with the offensive line, or do you think the holes will be filled by guys we have currently on the roster?"

He said OL would be our second priority in free agency..that we'd be aggressive but if things didn't go as we wanted, he liked Hadnot a lot and some other guys and would be comfortable with them stepping up into the role.

 

[AzStevenCal]

"So, you have Faneca retiring, leaving a gaping hole in your oline that already wasn't what we hoped it would be last year. You've talked a lot about the QB focus when free agency starts. Are we going to be just as aggressive with the offensive line, or do you think the holes will be filled by guys we have currently on the roster?"

He said OL would be our second priority in free agency..that we'd be aggressive but if things didn't go as we wanted, he liked Hadnot a lot and some other guys and would be comfortable with them stepping up into the role.

That is a good question. I'm not in love with the answer though.

Steve