Whiz' Post Game Presser and Serious Grimm speculation

[desertdawg]

We are probably one of the only teams that will take 17 sacks in 2 games, and I know we are the only team that can do it without any heads rolling. Looking at 3 straight years where your Az Cardinals have been at the bottom of the League giving up the most sacks, and Grimm will probably get a raise if Whiz stays and I think Whiz will be here for a good while...thus, our future is and always will be Grimm. The Peytons will never come here.

 

[PDXChris]

We are probably one of the only teams that will take 17 sacks in 2 games, and I know we are the only team that can do it without any heads rolling. Looking at 3 straight years where your Az Cardinals have been at the bottom of the League giving up the most sacks, and Grimm will probably get a raise if Whiz stays and I think Whiz will be here for a good while...thus, our future is and always will be Grimm. The Peytons will never come here.

Actually, we ARE the only team. It is a new record.

 

[conraddobler]

We are probably one of the only teams that will take 17 sacks in 2 games, and I know we are the only team that can do it without any heads rolling. Looking at 3 straight years where your Az Cardinals have been at the bottom of the League giving up the most sacks, and Grimm will probably get a raise if Whiz stays and I think Whiz will be here for a good while...thus, our future is and always will be Grimm. The Peytons will never come here.

Yep, build it and they will come.

Warner we got lucky on, the league thought he was washed up so we got him by sheer luck, but any real good QB would NEVER EVER chose us, they'd be idiots to do that.

You want a real good QB?

We'll have to draft one or get lucky, we will NOT ever get a good one to come here willingly.

It's just so apparent that you should start with the line, this team has tried everything over the last few decades to fix the O line, for the love of.... we even turned down that Denver O line guru who wanted a job here.

We just refuse to get anyone good here at building an O line, Bugel was the last one here that was any good at it.

 

[SunCityCarl]

I don't believe we will win a lot of football games with the current QB's throwing 50-60 times a game, no disrespect to Kolb or Skelton. We all knew when Levi went down the left tackle position would not be better without him, hell it was marginal with him. I was disappointed with the OL as a whole but we need to keep trying to run the football or install more screens & quick-outs. The Rams defense did a great job coming off the ball so kudos to them. Cards get a nice break for a few days & then come home for Buffalo, keep your heads up!

 

[cardpa]

Maybe a thread should be started on how many sacks Mario Williams is going to get next Sunday. Of course the minimum number should start at 3 or 4 and go up from there.

 

[THESMEL]

theory

I heard that theory before and I try to embrace it and say yea whiz was trying to teach Warner a lesson- Edge too-- but think there is ample proof at this point with several QB's- Oline- RB changes that it not the case- Whiz is in NFL Special ED- He has not got a clue.

Now lets take Whiz out of the picture and say any other coach in the history of earth- passed this much- behind by 1 score - with 17 sacks in 2 games- every incompletion is 0 yards- every sack is negative yards- your QB has 2 seconds to get the ball out.

The oline is getting beat on every play- so you spread out 6 recievers and let it fly- He still has this team and thats remarkable- He still has many of the fans including me- we are 4-1! Somehow He gets the credit for pulling a rabbit out his AZ, after shoving it up there in the first place- Whats up Doc!

My gosh we don't need any more lessons- We need fundementals and execution. Maybe a presser that says I didn't run the ball enough- instead of we - there seems to be a disconnect - like somebody else is doing this to him? He's the decider- He's the BMFITV of the sun. The buck stops there.

What's disappointing to me about this lack of balance is that I actually gave credit to Whis for, what I thought at the time, teaching Warner a lesson. Remember the games leading up to the playoff run? Each successive game they were getting more and more pass-happy and I THOUGHT, since they had their playoff spot wrapped up, Whis was sort of letting Warner see what would happen if they passed every down like he wanted.

Then the last game they got Edge involved again and re-established a little equilibrium and went on that great run.

But Kolb was left hung out to dry last night. I mean, come up with just about any suggestion to beat an aggressive pass rush and they DIDN'T try it. The plan seemed to be, drop 7 steps and stand on your spot. But, maybe like the atrocity that was the Seattle/GB game that was the straw that finally got the regular officials back, maybe 17 sacks in 5 days will get something done for AZ's o-line.

 

[Bodha]

Where's the quote or reference, that in any way supports serious speculation on Grimm's future?

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What quote? there is none.



Im saying this time (another horrible Oline performance which has plagued the team since Grimms been here) might be the difference maker because: It happened on TNF and the organization need to make a PR move.

You see it all the time.

Detroit fired their special teams coach after 2 back to back horrible games.

Did he need to be fired? Who knows, but it was a public message.



Thats my point. They got embarassed on national TV and might want to say "This guy is the reason why that happened, hes fired now"

IT happens all the time.

 

[Bobcat]

I noticed in Whiz' post game presser that while listing the negatives from the game he either: didnt mention/ or glanced over the O line.

It was the elephant in the room, and he was more into the missed opportunities, special team, and drops.



And, is it just me, or did anyone else pick up the vibe that hes hanging this on Michael Floyd? He spent alot of time talking about the WRs and drops and it really really felt like he was insinuating Floyd as being the catalyst of this loss.

If so, hes lost all my respect.


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Grimm

I know as fans we are like "RAAHH We want Grimms head!"

But in a practical sense, thatd never happen. Until possibly tonight. What are the realistic chances Grimm might be fired?


Im thinking as a publicity move. They got historically embarassed on TNF. They need to hang this on someone. Why not the Oline coach of the worse O line in 9 years?

We got of the other HALL of FAME coaching BUST " MEAN JOE GREEN " He liked Weddel Bryants Strong Hand shake. "GRIP"

 

[Crazy Canuck]

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What quote? there is none.



Im saying this time (another horrible Oline performance which has plagued the team since Grimms been here) might be the difference maker because: It happened on TNF and the organization need to make a PR move.

You see it all the time.

Detroit fired their special teams coach after 2 back to back horrible games.

Did he need to be fired? Who knows, but it was a public message.



Thats my point. They got embarassed on national TV and might want to say "This guy is the reason why that happened, hes fired now"

IT happens all the time.

'Serious speculation" suggests someone in authority or in-the-know has voiced the possibility.

 

[JeffGollin]

All I know is that the StL offensive line entered yesterday's game just as sucky and beaten up as ours. Yet they got the job done (122 run yards/1 sack). Ours didn't (45 run yards/9 sacks.

Both O-lines faced formidable pass rushers. Our O-line folded like a cheap suit. Theirs hung in there.

A contrast in coaching effectiveness.