Did Whiz run over your dog or bang your sister? There's so much factually wrong with these 2 posts it's funny.
Graves/FO is who Boldin said reneged on their plans to re-negotiate, no Whiz.
Out of that list of QB's, I think 2 are in the league. Let's not act like they had talent and Whiz hampered them. Does anyone really care what Skelton, Hall, or Lindley think?
Warner sure was sought after before falling under Whiz's guidance
Whiz succumbing to Haley is laughable at best. Btw, the same Haley that Ben has had numerous issues with. The same Haley that was run out of KC while Whiz was a hot commodity head coaching candidate.
But go head, give credit to everyone else and all the blame lay on Whiz. Very logical thinking.
In the end, Whiz is gone and had success in SD and will in Tennessee. Arians is also a good coach and having success in Arizona. Todd Haley will be lucky to get another HC job.
Regarding Warner, Denny Green should get credit for giving Warner a second chance when he to bat with Graves to get Warner signed to a cheap back-up contract.
Regarding Warner and Whisenhunt, if you can be honest with yourself, you may recall the Whiz dragged out the Qb competition all training camp long even when Warner beat Leinart everyday in every practice. Whiz finally was forced to pick Warner after Leinart melted down in the last pre-season game with the Raiders. Whiz was then forced to pick Warner to start, and that was Todd Haley's choice all along. As for Whiz being lucky to have lucked out in being force to choose Warner, you might also want to be honest and remember even Dick Vermeil had no clue how good Warner was going to be after the Rams' starting Franchise QB went down with a season ending injury and predicted that Warner was a "decent" back-up QB. In Warner's first start, he was so good, the Ram's threw out their entire season's offensive playbook and made up an entirely new one playing to Warner's strengths. Just as Vermeil made his fame off of Warner, so did Whisenhunt who should lose again to the Cowboys. I wouldn't be surprise if Whisenhunt hasn't already lost the Titans locker room since Locker is not going to the veteran leader and the "Lightning-the-Bottle" that Warner was when Whisenhunt got lucky here. Sure he took credit for Warner's success, but the truth is in his losing and pathetic coaching record and player mismanagement after Warner left. And remember, at San Diego, he was just a coordinator under McCoy was tutored on a PhD level on QB play and offensive attacks by Peyton Manning. AND McCoy completely admitted this in a lot of interviews available on line. With this knowledge, just how much could Whiz bring other than to carry out what McCoy wanted for Rivers? BTW, isn't amazing that McCoy was pushing Whiz to move on as a HC candidate after the Chargers' first 6 games instead of wanting to keep him there or stay mum on the subject?