Who do you want as next ASU Football coach?

[DevilPrideBAS]

Petrino has ASU ties, he was the QB coach here for a couple seasons during snyder's early years, and helped develop Plummer into an all-american. This would be the "herb sendek" hire. I hope it happens.

 

[devilfan02]

Petrino has turned down overtures from Notre Dame, Florida, Auburn, LSU, and the NFL yet he will go to ASU where he would likely have to take a sizeable paycut? Lisa Love must not have a gag reflex if she pulls that one off.

Not sure if I believe the Notre Dame and Florida rumors but he has been tempted. Auburn brought back Tubby and Florida was all over Meyer from day 1. Disagree on the paycut issue as well. Numerous ASU boosters pitched in a "considerable amount" of the buyout which means they paid for it all. If she gave Sendek a million+ then she'll have no problem throwing big money at Petrino. She needs to cover her ass after the extension/firing in the same year. As noted above, Petrino enjoyed his time in Tempe and has said he would love to come back.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I dunno.. I just can't see Petrino leaving Louisville to come to ASU. I'm not trying to sound like a hater here, but I just realistically can't see it.

Then again, I've been wrong before.

 

[DevilPrideBAS]

There is always this talk about how big east teams shouldnt be in the title hunt because they dont play anybody decent. That shadow always looms over big east teams like it or not. ASU will give petrino a chance to prove that his teams are championship quality, year in and year out. The Pac-10 is arguably one of the top 2 conferences in the country. I really believe this would be the best possible hire right now.

 

[devilfan02]

I dunno.. I just can't see Petrino leaving Louisville to come to ASU. I'm not trying to sound like a hater here, but I just realistically can't see it.

Then again, I've been wrong before.

I agree. Like I said above, Love may say she wants him but whether he comes here or not is a totally different story.

The main reason why I don't see Petrino leaving is because he's in the Big East where he is nearly assured of a BCS game every year. He makes good money and has an easy road every year to a January bowl game

 

[FArting]

what about dennis green?

 

[Future1984]

WHat about Dennis Green.


Lisa Love pucker up those lips for Bobby petrino

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I agree. Like I said above, Love may say she wants him but whether he comes here or not is a totally different story.

Exactly.. I may say I want to bang Jessica Simpson while her sister watches and runs the camera, and spend the rest of the evening swapping the two off, but whether it actually happens is a different story.

I think there's a CHANCE Petrino could come here, based off three things.

1) The ties to the University, as mentioned before.

2) Money.. If ASU is serious about ponying up the cash for quality, they could certainly raise the jack to get it done and could peak Petrino's interest in coming here.

3) and this is the biggie.. Louisville, no matter HOW good the football team is, IMHO will always be a basketball school first. ASU on the other hand is the opposite. Let's face it, this school has been looking for the next Frank Kush since.. well... Kush himself. Hell, at this point I think the Sun Devil faithful would settle for the next John Cooper. Petrino OFFERS that stability. He's proven he can recruit and should have no problems doing so here. He's also the type that runs a style of offense that I think would flourish at ASU.

Do I see it happening? No. In the end, I think the only job Petrino leaves Louisville for is an NFL opening.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Money.. If ASU is serious about ponying up the cash for quality, they could certainly raise the jack to get it done and could peak Petrino's interest in coming here.

Petrino is the fifth-highest paid college coach in the country in there with USC's, Florida State's, Ohio State's, and Oklahoma's of the college football world. There's no way ASU has that kind of scratch for a head coach and still go through with the proposed facility upgrades. Petrino would have to take a paycut or the basketball practice facility or SDS renovations gets pushed back.

And if they can somehow manage both then I'll definitely be excited for you guys as it would spur similar spending in Tucson.

 

[Evil Ash]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/1126asucoach-ON-CR.html

Coaching candidates

Jeff Metcalfe
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 26, 2006 10:04 PM

Coaching candidates

Catchall list of potential candidates for Arizona State's coaching vacancy. ASU's search, expected to include use of the search firm of Baker Parker & Associates of Atlanta, could produce a much different list. Head-coaching experience probably is a priority for ASU Vice President of Athletics Lisa Love, who also might look into the pro-to-college coaching model followed by Southern California and Notre Dame.

Current college coaches

Rich Brooks: Kentucky head coach. Age, 65, would be an issue. Former St.Louis Rams head coach and longtime head coach at Oregon.

Jim Grobe: The hot commodity after working miracles in six years at Wake Forest. No known West Coast ties.

Jim Harbaugh: Former NFL quarterback an up-and-comer after three highly successful seasons at Division I-AA San Diego.

Steve Kragthorpe: Tulsa head coach. Former Buffalo Bills quarterbacks coach and Northern Arizona offensive coordinator.

Mike Leach: Texas Tech head coach.

Tom O'Brien: Boston College head coach for 10 seasons. Some think he is underappreciated.

Gary Patterson: Texas Christian head coach.

Mike Price: Texas-El Paso head coach. Former head coach at Washington State and Weber State. Reached a settlement in his libel lawsuit against Sports Illustrated that he said contributed to his firing at Alabama.

Pro possibilities

Jim Fassel: Former New York Giants head coach. Most recently Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator, and also former coordinator for Cardinals. College head-coaching experience at Utah. Probably will stick with the NFL.

Mike Martz: Detroit Lions offensive coordinator. Former St.Louis Rams head coach. Former ASU offensive coordinator. Likely hoping for another NFL head coaching chance.

Dave McGinnis: Tennessee Titans assistant head coach. Former Cardinals head coach also with 13 years of college assistant-coaching experience.

Hot assistants

Gene Chizik: Texas co-defensive coordinator. Completing his second season at Texas after three as defensive coordinator at Auburn. No head-coaching experience.

Norm Chow: Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator. USC offensive coordinator for four years when Love was USC senior associate AD. At age 60, has never been a head coach.

Paul Chryst: Wisconsin offensive coordinator. Former Oregon State offensive coordinator. No college head-coaching experience.

David Cutcliffe: Tennessee assistant head coach/offensive coordinator. Former Mississippi head coach.

Ron English: Michigan defensive coordinator. ASU assistant coach for five seasons (1998-2002). No head-coaching experience.

Lane Kiffin: USC offensive coordinator. Like Chow, is familiar to Love through her days at USC. No head-coaching experience.

Bo Pelini: Louisiana State defensive coordinator. Former Oklahoma and Nebraska defensive coordinator. No head-coaching experience.

Brent Venables: Oklahoma associate head coach/defensive coordinator. Former Kansas State run-game coordinator. No head-coaching experience.

Retreads

Gary Barnett: Former Colorado and Northwestern head coach. Has a home in the Valley. His seven years at Colorado ended badly because of a recruiting scandal and Barnett's comments about a female kicker.

Bob Davie: Former Notre Dame head coach. Now lives in the Valley and is an ESPN college football analyst.

Dennis Erickson: Idaho head coach. Former Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco 49ers head coach. Former Oregon State, University of Miami, Washington State and Wyoming head coach.

Rick Neuheisel: Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach. Former Colorado and Washington head coach. Grew up and attended high school in Tempe. Won a wrongful termination suit against Washington and the NCAA and wants to be a college head coach again, but comes with baggage.

Also

Danny White: Utah Blaze head coach in Arena League. Former Arizona Rattlers head coach. Inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame based on his quarterback career at ASU. No collegiate coaching experience.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

My top choices, based off that list.

1. Grobe
2. O'Brien
3. Chryst (Think about this.. Chryst-- I know, it's spelled differently, but still-- coaching the Devils?? Classic stuff!)
3a. Pelini
3b. Chow

Who to avoid?

1. Erickson
2. Price
3. Newheisel
4. Brooks

 

[devilfan02]

Avoid all the retreads. Their either not good coaches or bring NCAA sanctions to Tempe with them. Avoid Ron English (Ughhh), Mike Martz (Koetter all over again), Mike Leach (Koetter all over again), Gary Patterson (Koetter all over again), Bob Davies, Neuweezel, Erickson, Barnett, Price, Brooks

MJ just reported that Carroll placed a call to Lisa Love on behalf of his OC, Lane Kiffin. Obviously Love has strong ties to SC which worries me on this rumor.

My top 3 would be O'brien, Pelini, McGinnis (with Fassel just outside those 3). I think the McGinnis not being able to recruit card is a load of crap. He'll surround himself with good assistants and he has good presence himself

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Former NFL coaches, whether succesful or not in the league, have a solid reputation for being succesfull at the collegiate level. He's not my first chioce but he blows Neuheisel and Harbaugh out of the water.

Neuheseil IS CORRUPT. Everywhere he goes he leaves in shambles. The freakin office pool, that was nothing. How bout the mess he left in Colorado? The mess he left at Washington? If your asking me, he should never be allowed to coach in college again. He's a major crook and ASU wouldn't even think of talking to him. We're just recovering from major PR nightmares, bringing in Neuheisel is like throwing gas on the fire.

And Harbaugh is laughable. I would like to think ASU is a big enough job to land a better candidate then Harbaugh. He's coaching in a non-scholarship league, not exactly my idea of a coach who will take us to the next level

Dude, Harbaugh is the real deal...no matter what league he's coaching in. You should watch some of USD's games...and listen to Jim during interviews...He'll put his team up against anyone and he has a legitimate NFL QB starting for him.

He's got a lot of that Pat Hill moxy...and it's exactly what ASU needs.

 

[Zeno]

Mac and CHow: Come on folks, don't be as stupid as Bickley. This would never happen, and I'm glad. McGinnis isn't a good coach, he's a good assistant, but he was a loser when he was w/ the Cardinals. Please, dont say "well Pete Carroll lost in the NFL and has won in college," look its a lot easier to bring USC to prominence than ASU, and we shouldn't try to follow someone elses formula for finding a coach. Furhtermore, why would Norm Chow leave as the OC of an NFL team to come be the OC for a 2nd rate Pac 10 school? Think about it.

I think you are too quick to dismiss McGinnis. I was not a fan of his when he was with the Cardinals but he has the type of personality that I think would succeed in College. He is a players coach, a rah rah type and he would make an impact immediately on recruiting. He isn't my first choice by any means but his selection wouldn't disappoint me.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

There's a big difference - USC recruits itself while most people outside this state confuse ASU with Arizona and vice versa. And there's literally hundreds of Pac-10 caliber players within 100 miles of USC every year that were looking for a reason to go to USC, whereas programs like ASU/Arizona have to outwork the competition and Dave Mac nor Chow were never known as a tireless workers.

Jim Harbaugh is a very interesting name which I have previously mentioned although he will end up in Ann Arbor when Carr retires. Retreads like Neuheisel, Price, and Erickson all have serious baggage. People always point out Pete Carroll and USC when hiring former NFL coaches, but for every hire like that you have Wannstedt/Pitt, Groh/Virginia, Gailey/Georgia Tech, and Shula/Alabama.

If USC recruits itself, why were they so bad before Carrol got there? I think that since Carrol rebuilt a winning tradition there, they now have a much easier time recruiting.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

If USC recruits itself, why were they so bad before Carrol got there? I think that since Carrol rebuilt a winning tradition there, they now have a much easier time recruiting.

They still kept getting elite athletes during the Hackett years (Carson Palmer, Polamalu, R. Jay Soward, Chad Morton, etc.) but did not have a guy that could develop them and put them in a position to succeed until Carroll and company arrived. Paul Hackett was downright terrible.

 

[devilfan02]

MJ just said he spoke with McGinnis last night and said he was very interested in the ASU job. Mj said that McGinnis would bring Chow as his OC. He didn't say Mcginnis specifically said "Chow will be my OC" but if he's suggesting it you have to assume that Mcginnis told MJ that Chow would be his first choice as OC.

 

[Dback Jon]

Forget Jim Harbaugh. He has padded his record playing Little Sisters of the Poor and Blind 9 times a year, and lost his only game this year against a semi-decent team. There are about 30 coaches in the Football Championship Subdivision that are better coaches than Harbaugh.

 

[Dback Jon]

MJ just said he spoke with McGinnis last night and said he was very interested in the ASU job. Mj said that McGinnis would bring Chow as his OC. He didn't say Mcginnis specifically said "Chow will be my OC" but if he's suggesting it you have to assume that Mcginnis told MJ that Chow would be his first choice as OC.

Why would Chow leave an NFL OC job for a college OC job???

McGinnis and Chow are coaching together right now for the Titans, so they are close, but that doesn't make any sense, unless Chow is sick of the pro game.

 

[Zeno]

Why would Chow leave an NFL OC job for a college OC job???

McGinnis and Chow are coaching together right now for the Titans, so they are close, but that doesn't make any sense, unless Chow is sick of the pro game.

Maybe the rumors of Jeff Fisher being in his last season are true and Chow would rather return to the college game than look for another NFL job.

Just throwing ideas out.

 

[devilfan02]

Why would Chow leave an NFL OC job for a college OC job???

McGinnis and Chow are coaching together right now for the Titans, so they are close, but that doesn't make any sense, unless Chow is sick of the pro game.

Could be a number of reasons. He didn't want to draft Young and maybe he doesn't want to be around to develop him. If that offense sputters because Young doesn't progress, Chow will take the fall and his HC aspirations will be in jeopardy. A huge reason is Jeff Fisher could very well get fired at the end of the season and Chow will be looking for work anyways. He may not like Nashville, may not like the NFL, may think college is a better fit for him, may be close with McGinnis, thinks him and Mac could have big success here due to his PAC-10 experience and ties, etc........ It's all speculation at this point, just posting what I'm hearing on the radio. The fact is that McGinnis told MJ he has high interest in ASU (then you'd have to assume he'd want Chow as OC). I'm getting the feeling that McGinnis and Chow both know that Fisher is likely to be fired at the end of the season and their looking at their next career move


Another good development is the fact that Tom O'brien is starting to get some press for this job. I've wanted him for a couple years now and he would be great here. He only makes $750K at Boston College so he would be getting a pay raise no matter what in Tempe. He reportedly almost got the Washington job (when Willingham got it) so he may be ready to leave BC. Defense and Discipline, exactly what ASU needs and exactly what O'brien will bring.

 

[Dback Jon]

Maybe the rumors of Jeff Fisher being in his last season are true and Chow would rather return to the college game than look for another NFL job.

Just throwing ideas out.

Fisher will be back. Bud Adams is not that stupid.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I'd expect Chow to also get some consideration for the NC State job.

 

[devilfan02]

I'd expect Chow to also get some consideration for the NC State job.

I agree. If these ASU/Chow/McGinnis rumors are true, I wouldn't be surprised if NC State gets flustered and gives Chow the full court press. Chow developed Rivers if I'm not mistaken so I'm sure he's held in high regards

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Not that he was a candidate to consider much anyhow, but Chizik just got hired by Iowa State so he's off the radar.