Who Is The Best Team In The NFC??

[HoodieBets]

Were the 2014 Arizona Cardinals a legit title contender come December or January? The 2014 Panthers? Will any team that emerges from the AFC South this year really be a "legit title contender"?

Or the NFC East for that matter


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[HoodieBets]

I ain't scared of the Panthers.



In fact, if the Cards do make the playoffs & get to play them I think we beat them!!! I don't think Scam is anything special & I think our offense can handle them.

Our ST is brutal have a feeling a team like Carolina will make that bite us in the ass


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[Jim Otis]

Wilson also has the "OH _ _ it" factor given that line of his.

Yes , and one of those wipes out a whole lot of attaboys !!!!!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Were the 2014 Arizona Cardinals a legit title contender come December or January? The 2014 Panthers? Will any team that emerges from the AFC South this year really be a "legit title contender"?

Were the 2009 cardinals legit contenders? Or were they being called the worst playoff team ever?
I watch a ton of games of a lot of teams and the Cards can play with,and beat, anybody.

They're top 5 in offense and defense and top 2 in point differential. I'll focus on that, you can dwell on Landry jones if you want.

 

[NJCardFan]

To paraphrase Harry, I can't see GB coming close to beating the Cardinals at Glendale. Especially, after watching last night's game.

Are you implying our defense is on the same level as Denver?

 

[Cardiac]

Were the 2009 cardinals legit contenders? Or were they being called the worst playoff team ever?
I watch a ton of games of a lot of teams and the Cards can play with,and beat, anybody.

They're top 5 in offense and defense and top 2 in point differential. I'll focus on that, you can dwell on Landry jones if you want.

I agree with you but I also have to keep in mind that we haven't beat any quality teams as of yet. I do believe the Cards will maintain their top 5 ranking on Offense and feel fairly confident they will remain at least a top 10 defense at the end of the regular season.

Packers D isn't all that good and their WR corps is not great.

Seahawks are showing us all this year that they aren't very good right now. Their Oline is horrible and I maintain that Wilson while dangerous can be game planned into mediacracy.

Panthers may be the best in the NFC right now but they have crap for WR's.

Falcons have an explosive Offense but their D will be exposed as the season unfolds.

No one from the NFC east will most likely challenge this year.

Rams need a better QB but Foles isn't horrible. Their Dline is outstanding but their Oline still is a work in progress. Gurley is legit and can have the same impact as a Lynch.

 

[NJCardFan]

To imply we're not good because we lost to Landry Jones is faulty logic. Even the best teams throw in clunkers. The '84 49ers, a team that went 15-1 and won the Super Bowl, lost to the Steelers, QB'd by Mark Malone. There's only been 1 undefeated team in history.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Do you actually watch the games?! This is a team whose defense and offense got slack against St. Louis, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and now Cleveland.

Take your eyes off the stat sheet and watch some games and you'll see a team that's still very good, but not in the same class as the elite teams in the NFL.

If the playoffs started today, the Cards would be a 3rd seed in the NFC, which means one guaranteed home playoff game and no first-round bye. That doesn't foreclose the possibility of a Super Bowl championship (obvs), but elite teams earn a bye week; they don't hope to get some help over the last 8 games to do so.

Maybe you just have an unusually expansive definition of what "title contender" means.

what games are you watching?

This makes no sense....You can't use lose to this beat this team. We had 480 yards of offense against the Rams and the Steelers. Laundry Jones caught us off guard because we practiced all week for Vick. And then when Jones went in...I guarantee our defense laid back. Jones then threw perfect pass after perfect pass. He isn't that good.

But to use your logic. The Broncos needed a last minute FG to beat the Browns!!! Then the Broncos made Rodgers look like he had never played. McCown though threw allover the Broncos. We have given up only 30 more points than the Broncos in 1 less game....and we have turned the ball over 8 times in our territory!!!!! Gurley had no yards against us in the first half and he broke 1 long run when we sold out to stop the 3 yard run and once he broke free gained 61 yards. He wouldnt have had 90 if we hit him for a 2 yard game.

Our defense has stop 18% of all runs for negative yardage!!!!! That is on pace to shatter the NFL record!!! a few break away runs happens in the NFL.

We can beat anyone in the NFL and no way is any team more elite than us if we play well. New England wouldn't be favored against us if we were at home!

 

[Bert]

Carolina looks very average for three quarters against a Colts team that has been absolutely terrible all year.

If the Packers last night and the Panthers tonight define "elite" in the NFC then yes I think we can get to their level.

The packers got dominated in Denver just like we did last year, difference is they weren't without their starting QB.
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[Darkside]

I'm positive Carolina is taken lightly by this board and the media. I've seen several of their games, and saw their entire game against Seattle. Regardless of the lack of talent, Cam Newton is the real deal. He's for real. Against Seattle, when it mattered, driving late in the game to win or lose, he was throwing missiles, absolute darts at his guys. They couldn't help but catch it, it was stuck in their chest. He's not afraid of bigtime. You think Badger doesn't care, well Cam really doesn't GAF.

I'm impressed with Carolina and the Rams. I give Carolina the edge because of Cam Newton. Newton is the QB nobody is really talking about in the upper echelon of quarterbacking, but he's an absolute stud.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Also think about this.....The Steelers have shut down and played great defense against the Bengals and New England. New England had 361 total yards the Bengals had under 300!!!!!

We had 469!!!! And they had 310!!!! and that was with a 80 yard TD pass on a fluke play in the closing minute!!!

so we held them to 230 total yards the entire game. and we had 100 yards more than New ENgland and had 3 big plays brought back on questionable calls. I dont think you are giving this team as much credit as they deserve. Look up the FPI

in fact baltimore had 409 against Pitt...other than that no one closeto 400 total offense against them....we had almost 500!!!

 

[Bert]

Worth noting tho: the Packers and Panthers are the only two teams in the NFL who have not allowed a TD after a turnover. THAT is elite defense.


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[Buckybird]

I'm positive Carolina is taken lightly by this board and the media. I've seen several of their games, and saw their entire game against Seattle. Regardless of the lack of talent, Cam Newton is the real deal. He's for real. Against Seattle, when it mattered, driving late in the game to win or lose, he was throwing missiles, absolute darts at his guys. They couldn't help but catch it, it was stuck in their chest. He's not afraid of bigtime. You think Badger doesn't care, well Cam really doesn't GAF.

I'm impressed with Carolina and the Rams. I give Carolina the edge because of Cam Newton. Newton is the QB nobody is really talking about in the upper echelon of quarterbacking, but he's an absolute stud.

I still think Scam is wayyyyyy overrated & the Cards are a better team. I'm not scared to play them at all.

 

[Buckybird]

Also think about this.....The Steelers have shut down and played great defense against the Bengals and New England. New England had 361 total yards the Bengals had under 300!!!!!

We had 469!!!! And they had 310!!!! and that was with a 80 yard TD pass on a fluke play in the closing minute!!!

so we held them to 230 total yards the entire game. and we had 100 yards more than New ENgland and had 3 big plays brought back on questionable calls. I dont think you are giving this team as much credit as they deserve. Look up the FPI

in fact baltimore had 409 against Pitt...other than that no one closeto 400 total offense against them....we had almost 500!!!

Yep. Nobody has yet to shut down the Cards offense, except themselves with turnovers or execution. We can play we anybody in the NFL

 

[Bert]

Oh man Cam got away with one there.


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[daves]

(2) if Gary Barnidge just set our defense on fire, what's going to happen if and when we visit Newton and Greg Olson.

Do you really think that Barnidge set the Cardinals' defense on fire?! Because he was averaging 79 yards and 0.71 TD per game, and against the Cardinals he had 53 yards and a TD. Olsen is averaging 73 yards (highest of his career!) and 0.5 TD per game. I don't see the fear factor.

Want to know who might actually be the conference's best team right now? The St. Louis Rams. They're a half-game behind us having played the NFL's most difficult schedule through seven weeks and the 28th-easiest schedule the rest of the way.

Do you really believe the Rams are the best team in the NFC? Gurley looks brilliant! And their schedule has indeed been tough. But they're 28th in the league in scoring. And they're 1.5 games behind the Cardinals, not a half game.

...dbs

 

[Darkside]

I still think Scam is wayyyyyy overrated & the Cards are a better team. I'm not scared to play them at all.

We're a better team, maybe. Maybe. But I'd take Cam Newton over any QB on our roster. At his age, and with his development and ability to learn and improve, there's no question.

You're not worried about playing Carolina? For real? If it was playoffs one and done you're perfectly comfortable and sitting back in your recliner and drinking brews and eating nachos and totally relaxed?

Cam Newton and Greg Olsen can destroy us alone, without even involving the rest of their minimal offense. They also have one of the best defenses in the league along with perhaps the best LB in the league in Kuechly. That dude is everywhere. He's like Matheiu only bigger, stronger, and faster.

We haven't beaten anyone of note. For you to say we'd basically destroy Carolina is either in jest or ignorance.

 

[daves]

One last comment - don't discount the throwing ability of both Wilson and Newton. They're amazingly athletic and often produce magic with their feet, BUT, they can are also above average passers to boot.

Despite the love-fest on MNF, i absolutely don't buy that Newton is an above average passer. Career 59% completion rate (never reached 62% in a season) and 85 passer rating (never reached 90) is unequivocally below average. This season's version of Newton, with his lousy receiving corps, is completing passes at a 56% clip with a 78 passer rating.

...dbs

 

[Darkside]

Cam Newton is badass, don't let the stats fool you. He has no weapons at all and makes it work. He's a leader of men and everything you want in a QB both on and off the football field.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Most all great athletes has big egos, but Cam needs to get over himself,

 

[Darkside]

We all need to get over ourselves, and we're all flawed.

 

[daves]

Legit title contenders don't lose to Landry Jones.

So it is your contention that the Cardinals are NOT and cannot be a legitimate title contender this year, because they lost to Landry Jones?

Funny, i remember New England losing to Kyle Orton last year, and Seattle losing to Austin Davis. It happens. The Cardinals played relatively poorly in Pittsburgh, and shot themselves in the foot with turnovers and other mistakes... but i don't think the loss precludes them from being title contenders.

...dbs

 

[Buckybird]

We're a better team, maybe. Maybe. But I'd take Cam Newton over any QB on our roster. At his age, and with his development and ability to learn and improve, there's no question.

You're not worried about playing Carolina? For real? If it was playoffs one and done you're perfectly comfortable and sitting back in your recliner and drinking brews and eating nachos and totally relaxed?

Cam Newton and Greg Olsen can destroy us alone, without even involving the rest of their minimal offense. They also have one of the best defenses in the league along with perhaps the best LB in the league in Kuechly. That dude is everywhere. He's like Matheiu only bigger, stronger, and faster.

We haven't beaten anyone of note. For you to say we'd basically destroy Carolina is either in jest or ignorance.

I never said we would destroy them. I said I think the Cards are a better team & that's because our offense. And yes I think Palmer is a better QB.

We shall see as the season plays out.

 

[Darkside]

I never said we would destroy them. I said I think the Cards are a better team & that's because our offense. And yes I think Palmer is a better QB.

We shall see as the season plays out.

You think Palmer is the better QB? You put Newton here with us and put Palmer with Carolina, and I'd take that trade straight up.

It's entirely debatable whether we have a better team. They're undefeated, we are not. A lot goes into that, too many variables, but your argument is weak.

 

[Buckybird]

You think Palmer is the better QB? You put Newton here with us and put Palmer with Carolina, and I'd take that trade straight up.

Yes I do!!! Take the age out of the equation.

You do realize what Palmers record is the last 22 starts is right? And that's not counting a 10-6 year his 1st season. He's playing his best football right now!!!

Btw Scam is still an inconsistent QB & turnover machine.