Who would be your choice or choices for head coach next...

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Hire someone young with modern ideas and a more recent relationship with colleges and college age kids. Someone inventive, who is a free thinker, way outside the NFL mindset.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Jim Harbaugh would be my #1 choice and number 2 and 3

if not Jim I'd like to see the Cards interview Pat Patricia from NE

 

[RugbyMuffin]

3) Mike Vrabel-at some point he's going to be the guy somewhere. Knows the game & learned from the master in BB.

4) Matt Patricia-learned from one of the best in BB. DC of some very solid defenses despite limited talent though they've had a dropoff early this season

if not Jim I'd like to see the Cards interview Pat Patricia from NE

I seen these two brought up a couple times.

Belichek is know for his defense, I get it. But, the Patriots defense is less than impressive this year, and one could debate last year.

Futhermore, I get it with the whole Matt Patricia thing, he is a guy that used to be a salesman, and was given a rare opportunity to pass over putting his time in as a coach and has worked his way to becoming a defensive coordinator for New England. I think that if the Cardinals chose this guy as a head coach it would be like how this organization likes to go small school in drafts, and be too cute with their moves. Being part of the system in New England is one thing, but having to stand up by himself with his background and get men to play for him is another. I think Patricia is a very poor choice. But, that is just my very humble opinion.

If you want to take from New England (which RARELY works by the way), then I would go with an offensive mind, Josh McDaniels is the known name but his tenure as a head coach was pretty poor.

Not to mention, you have to have the personnel.

With all due respect to the New England organization that has been a Super Bowl contender every year for almost two decades, what would they be without Tom Brady ?

That is the question, because without Brady is the defense coached in a way that would really merit head coaching interest ? Same goes for the offense.

The coach would come into a situation here at Arizona where the cupboard is bare, no quarterback let alone Tom Brady, and a defense that is more hype than production.

Again, I am not saying it is horrible decision to pick a person from New England (well, maybe in the case of Patricia), but the coaches named are not coaches I would see as head coach material, IMHO, for the reasons above.

Then the question is who ? Making matter worse for this post, I do not know.

Every time I think about head coaching in the NFL circa 2017, I just see what pro-style NFL football was dying off, and what you see in the college game taking over. Which goes against a lot of what I believe in football philosophically.

Just look at some of my comments in regards to Chip Kelly no less than 2 years ago. At this point Kelly may just be a guy before his time, and not the passing fad I had him for.

Again, I do not know.

 

[oaken1]

I seen these two brought up a couple times.

Belichek is know for his defense, I get it. But, the Patriots defense is less than impressive this year, and one could debate last year.

If you want to take from New England (which RARELY works by the way), then I would go with an offensive mind, Josh McDaniels is the known name but his tenure as a head coach was pretty poor.

Not to mention, you have to have the personnel.

With all due respect to the New England organization that has been a Super Bowl contender every year for almost two decades, what would they be without Tom Brady ?

That is the question, because without Brady is the defense coached in a way that would really merit head coaching interest ? Same goes for the offense.

The coach would come into a situation here at Arizona where the cupboard is bare, no quarterback let alone Tom Brady, and a defense that is more hype than production.

Again, I am not saying it is horrible decision to pick a person from New England, but the coaches named are not coaches I would see as head coach material, IMHO, for the reasons above.

Vrabel coaches in Houston....and has had some success. His defense is not top 10 right now but they are solid and have had their own issues to deal with. Part of the reason I like Vrabel is because he left NE and still shows signs of being successful... so far that hasnt really happened with anyone else that I am aware of.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Bruce Arians with a new defensive coordinator with a record of success and a new special teams coordinator with a record of success (sort of like how Andy Reid fills his positions).

 

[DVontel]

Hire someone young with modern ideas and a more recent relationship with colleges and college age kids. Someone inventive, who is a free thinker, way outside the NFL mindset.

James Franklin?
Mike Norvell?

 

[PACardsFan]

I do like Jim Harbaugh, because he’s a proven winner. But rest assure, he’s not leaving Michigan any time soon. This was ALWAYS going to be a rebuilding year for MI, as Harbaugh had to replace 10 of 11 defensive starters from last year. And that’s his bread & butter.

I still prefer an offensive minded HC, so I would go after Josh McDaniels. He’s learned under the best HC ever & has been part of all 5 of the Patriot’s SB wins.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Vrabel coaches in Houston....and has had some success. His defense is not top 10 right now but they are solid and have had their own issues to deal with. Part of the reason I like Vrabel is because he left NE and still shows signs of being successful... so far that hasnt really happened with anyone else that I am aware of.

Really? Wow, shows how well I have followed coaches.


Houston has had A LOT of injuries on their defense, and huge injuries. JJ Watt, Brian Cushing (suspension), and Mercilius Whitney, so it is no cake walk in Houston.

Only problem is, like you stated, Houston is the 30th defense in the league when it comes to points allowed per game, Cardinals give up 27.3 pts/game, and the Texans give up 26.9.

Finding the perfect coach feels like a unicorn hunt. I REALLY wanted Mike McCoy last time around......he didn't turn out so well.

 

[ARZCardinals]

I seen these two brought up a couple times.

Belichek is know for his defense, I get it. But, the Patriots defense is less than impressive this year, and one could debate last year.

Futhermore, I get it with the whole Matt Patricia thing, he is a guy that used to be a salesman, and was given a rare opportunity to pass over putting his time in as a coach and has worked his way to becoming a defensive coordinator for New England. I think that if the Cardinals chose this guy as a head coach it would be like how this organization likes to go small school in drafts, and be too cute with their moves. Being part of the system in New England is one thing, but having to stand up by himself with his background and get men to play for him is another. I think Patricia is a very poor choice. But, that is just my very humble opinion.

If you want to take from New England (which RARELY works by the way), then I would go with an offensive mind, Josh McDaniels is the known name but his tenure as a head coach was pretty poor.

Not to mention, you have to have the personnel.

With all due respect to the New England organization that has been a Super Bowl contender every year for almost two decades, what would they be without Tom Brady ?

That is the question, because without Brady is the defense coached in a way that would really merit head coaching interest ? Same goes for the offense.

The coach would come into a situation here at Arizona where the cupboard is bare, no quarterback let alone Tom Brady, and a defense that is more hype than production.

Again, I am not saying it is horrible decision to pick a person from New England (well, maybe in the case of Patricia), but the coaches named are not coaches I would see as head coach material, IMHO, for the reasons above.

Then the question is who ? Making matter worse for this post, I do not know.

Every time I think about head coaching in the NFL circa 2017, I just see what pro-style NFL football was dying off, and what you see in the college game taking over. Which goes against a lot of what I believe in football philosophically.

Just look at some of my comments in regards to Chip Kelly no less than 2 years ago. At this point Kelly may just be a guy before his time, and not the passing fad I had him for.

Again, I do not know.

Good write up

I think many like the coaching staff of NE because they know the winning formula. It's like making food....if someone has a great recipe and you follow the exact process precise to the orig. you are now considered a great cook.

They know the formula the best. The system is tried and true.

While Jim H is my 1st pick...and I'd sell the farm to get him...as I know he'd rebuild the farm and get us another 2 farms...

I could live with Pat P.

 

[oaken1]

Good write up

I think many like the coaching staff of NE because they know the winning formula. It's like making food....if someone has a great recipe and you follow the exact process precise to the orig. you are now considered a great cook.

They know the formula the best. The system is tried and true.

While Jim H is my 1st pick...and I'd sell the farm to get him...as I know he'd rebuild the farm and get us another 2 farms...

I could live with Pat P.

everyone keeps calling him Pat............pretty sure his name is Matt Patricia....M

 

[RugbyMuffin]

It's like making food....if someone has a great recipe and you follow the exact process precise to the orig. you are now considered a great cook.

Can't argue that.

I am an engineer. My mother is a RIDICULOUSLY good cook.

I make good food now, not because I am a good cook but because I make a good mocking bird.

That said, if something goes wrong with the recipe ? My mother would know what to do about, while I would be screwed.

Not sure if that applies to your extremely good example, but just throwing that in there.

 

[Ronin]

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[oaken1]

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I loved chucky when he was coaching. But my gut tells me his time has passed.

 

[az jam]

IMO Gruden back to Tamp Bay makes some sense but not here.

 

[BigRedRage]

if I were to choose offensive guy vs defensive, I would go defensive with a smash mouth, run first style offense to build around DJ.

 

[BigRedRage]

Bruce Arians with a new defensive coordinator with a record of success and a new special teams coordinator with a record of success (sort of like how Andy Reid fills his positions).

all for that

 

[Red Bird]

Harbaugh or David Shaw

 

[slanidrac16]

I would go with Frank Reich. Look what he has done with Carson Wentz. Let's face it . We are going to have a new young QB and I think it would be huge to have a new coach that is QB friendly and good with a young QB. In addition to that we need to hire the BEST defensive coordinator available.

I was thinking Josh McDaniels but he has had the benefit of having Tom Brady.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Shaw...

 

[azsouthendzone]

Josh McDaniels

 

[Chopper0080]

Pat Shurmur
Josh McDaniels
Todd Haley

all are worth a serious look.

Shaw
Harbaugh

are pipe dreams IMO. I don't believe they would leave their current situations for ours.

Mike Vrabel is the former defensive NE coach who I would look at. Matt Patricia is meh. His anti Goodell gear last year turned me off.

I personally don't love the defensive head coach route with how it leads to turnover on the offensive coaching side.

 

[DVontel]

Pat Shurmur
Josh McDaniels
Todd Haley

all are worth a serious look.

Shaw
Harbaugh

are pipe dreams IMO. I don't believe they would leave their current situations for ours.

Mike Vrabel is the former defensive NE coach who I would look at. Matt Patricia is meh. His anti Goodell gear last year turned me off.

I personally don't love the defensive head coach route with how it leads to turnover on the offensive coaching side.

I’ll stay the hell away from Haley. I really do have a bad feeling of him becoming a HC again.

 

[Chopper0080]

I’ll stay the hell away from Haley. I really do have a bad feeling of him becoming a HC again.

Haley failed for a reason, but he warrants a serious look to see if something has changed. Chip Kelly is similar in that way. You know why his stint failed. Gotta talk to him to see if anything is different.

 

[Buckybird]

I’ll stay the hell away from Haley. I really do have a bad feeling of him becoming a HC again.

Like the Pats failed hiring Bellicheat away from the Jets? Lol

Haley is a damn good offensive mind & brings the tough approach the Cards sorely lack IMO. He may or may not work out, but several coaches learn from their past HC failures. He's my #2 candidate after David Shaw

 

[NJCardFan]

Any Philly assistants worth a look?

Frank Reich is there offensive coordinator and Jim Schwartz is their defensive coordinator. Schwartz had a go as the Lions head coach and failed miserably.