Who would you rather have?

[red desert]

Boldin.

 

[red desert]

Uhm.. Boldin.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I knew Boldin would be the consensus but why is that? They both play hard,both make big plays,both are 2nd round picks,and both want more money. But Boldin is loved and Dansby is kind of,meh, take him or leave him. I don't get why that is. You haven't heard of Dansby threatening a holdout(he made some noises in 06 about wanting a new deal,but who hasn't),he's been more durable than Boldin and AW, two guys that are liked better, and he's one of the few guys that was actually OK with the franchise tag being placed on him. The only negative to come his way was in camp in 2006 when Denny called him out and that turned out to be a legit toe injury that DG was blasting him for. Dansby still went out and played at a high level. Boldin says he's saving himself for the playoffs and gets a free pass. There's got to be something,maybe because he's not a media friendly guy, that makes people like Boldin so much more.

 

[Sandan]

WR are harder to find than LBers

 

[Shane]

I knew Boldin would be the consensus but why is that? They both play hard,both make big plays,both are 2nd round picks,and both want more money. But Boldin is loved and Dansby is kind of,meh, take him or leave him. I don't get why that is. You haven't heard of Dansby threatening a holdout(he made some noises in 06 about wanting a new deal,but who hasn't),he's been more durable than Boldin and AW, two guys that are liked better, and he's one of the few guys that was actually OK with the franchise tag being placed on him. The only negative to come his way was in camp in 2006 when Denny called him out and that turned out to be a legit toe injury that DG was blasting him for. Dansby still went out and played at a high level. Boldin says he's saving himself for the playoffs and gets a free pass. There's got to be something,maybe because he's not a media friendly guy, that makes people like Boldin so much more.

Where is Dansby in the take him or leave him category? I certainly dont see that? Where do you see that? We were asked to make a choice and we made it. Doesn't mean we dont want Dansby no matter how much you try and insinuate otherwise.

Your comments about Boldin saving himself are rediculous BTW.

 

[DaisyCutter]

WR are harder to find than LBers

Absolutely. The Cards have done a great job identifying LB talent. Look: Lance Mitchell, Raynoch Thompson (given an extension from Graves and released less than a year later), Daryl Blackstock, Brandon Johnson, Buster Davis, Orlando Huff... Need I go on?

The Cards have had a far easier time identifying top-shelf talent at WR than they have at LB. Karlos Dansby might be the best player the Cards have had at linebacker in 15 years.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Where is Dansby in the take him or leave him category? I certainly dont see that? Where do you see that? We were asked to make a choice and we made it. Doesn't mean we dont want Dansby no matter how much you try and insinuate otherwise.

I'm not saying we,as fans,don't want Dansby but i'm pretty sure Graves will have it come down to not being able to keep both players and then having to make a choice.

Also, i'm not ripping on Q.I think he's great. I just find it ridiculous that people always call injury issues into why Dansby still has to prove himself while Q has been alot less durable and it doesn't get a mention.

 

[black]

If traded or not resigned...

Boldin = Novacheck
Dansby = J. Miller

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Absolutely. The Cards have done a great job identifying LB talent. Look: Lance Mitchell, Raynoch Thompson (given an extension from Graves and released less than a year later), Daryl Blackstock, Brandon Johnson, Buster Davis, Orlando Huff... Need I go on?

The Cards have had a far easier time identifying top-shelf talent at WR than they have at LB. Karlos Dansby might be the best player the Cards have had at linebacker in 15 years.

That I do agree on.

Boldin.

 

[Bobcat]

Well it's Boldin by process of elimination now.

No way Dansby gets 9 mil next year, he's already stealing 8 mil this year.

Boldin....2 pro bowls

Dansby....0 pro bowls

Trade Dansby for Suggs and let us get on with our life.

BOBCAT

 

[Indiana Hoosier]

Boldin, probably over any one else on this team!

 

[BigRedRage]

I knew Boldin would be the consensus but why is that? They both play hard,both make big plays,both are 2nd round picks,and both want more money. But Boldin is loved and Dansby is kind of,meh, take him or leave him. I don't get why that is. You haven't heard of Dansby threatening a holdout(he made some noises in 06 about wanting a new deal,but who hasn't),he's been more durable than Boldin and AW, two guys that are liked better, and he's one of the few guys that was actually OK with the franchise tag being placed on him. The only negative to come his way was in camp in 2006 when Denny called him out and that turned out to be a legit toe injury that DG was blasting him for. Dansby still went out and played at a high level. Boldin says he's saving himself for the playoffs and gets a free pass. There's got to be something,maybe because he's not a media friendly guy, that makes people like Boldin so much more.

How many awards has Dansby won? Records? Pro bowls? question answered.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Absolutely. The Cards have done a great job identifying LB talent. Look: Lance Mitchell, Raynoch Thompson (given an extension from Graves and released less than a year later), Daryl Blackstock, Brandon Johnson, Buster Davis, Orlando Huff... Need I go on?

The Cards have had a far easier time identifying top-shelf talent at WR than they have at LB. Karlos Dansby might be the best player the Cards have had at linebacker in 15 years.

So wouldn't it make more sense logically to keep Dansby and trade Boldin, as it is much more likely that they will be able to find a replacement?

 

[Billy Flynt]

Dansby, just because I paid $$$ for custom authentic jersey almost 3 years ago. Otherwise Boldin.

 

[Duckjake]

How many awards has Dansby won? Records? Pro bowls? question answered.

David Boston is the Cardinals single season receiving yardage leader. Question back on the table.

 

[Shane]

David Boston is the Cardinals single season receiving yardage leader. Question back on the table.

How many consistent seasons of production did Boston have?

Off the table again

 

[Duckjake]

How many consistent seasons of production did Boston have?

Off the table again

 

[Shane]

Hey that hat you gave me is gettinga whole lot of use this summer. THX AGAIN!

 

[Syracusecards]

This question can't be answered until next year anyway. If Early and Breaston show they can play and we can actually assemble a power running game, I think a lot of opinions will change on who to let go. With all the references of Early to Q's style of play, I'm excited to see what he can do. If Early can play somewhat close to the same style of play as Q, then we should trade Q next offseason. The way Q plays, he doesn't have much longer in the league. You look at guys like Marvin Harrison and Jerry Rice, they never initiated contact with the defender. Q always trys to plow through people, which is why we all love him. But at the same time, he's one or two devastating hits away from being done with football.

Dansby has more long term potential in being a difference maker than Q. Plus, we could get a lot more trade value for Q.

I hate myself for posting this because I can't stand to think of Q in another uniform, but it would be better for the success of the team in the long run to keep Dansby.

 

[Shane]

The way Q plays, he doesn't have much longer in the league.

This comment is pretty much bunk syracuse. Give me one strand of anything concrete that backs this up?

 

[Buckybird]

I already know what the answers will be but i'll ask anyway. While most legitimate NFL front offices could get both guys locked up long term,it seems we have a FO that can't/won't be able to do it, who would you rather keep on the team, Dansby or Boldin? Ideally we keep both but,if i had to choose, i'd take Dansby. He's the best playmaker on the defensive side of the ball. He plays when he's dinged up. He plays a position that the Cards are lacking in depth at and,to me, he's more important to the Cards success than Boldin. Boldin is a great WR but he's going to be the #2 WR on a team that wants to become a run oriented team. He wants to be paid like a top WR,and i can't blame him because he is, but the fact remains that Fitz is the premier WR on the Cards. Boldin also has more injury concerns than Dansby. Can the Cards tie up all that money in the WR position? They can,but will they? Boldin is an unquestioned team leader but will he use his clubhouse influence in a negative way if he doesn't get a new deal? On the field, Dansby is a leader but we have no idea what kind of presence he has in the locker room. That could be what the Cards are concerned about. There's no reason the Cards/Graves can't get both guys locked up but we all know the Cards history and shouldn't be surprised if neither are on the team in 2009. Hopefully both are, but enjoy 2008,and give me Dansby in '09.......................... if i have to choose.

I couldn't have said it better. As much as I like Q as a player, a locker room leader and teammate, Karlos would b my choice also. Boldin has suffered numerous leg injuries and that bode well for his future. look back at Cardinal history, we have pretty much always had a solid offense, especially the passing game. The only defense this franchise has EVER had that put fear into the opponenets eyes, was when Cruddy ball was in the desert. I really feel this defense is on the verge of being one of the top defenses in the league and it may happen this season. Our front 7 appears to be the best in team history and by next season (year 2 of DRC, Campbell, Iwebema) could be dominate. As of right now, Karlos is the best of the best on that side of the ball. And for all of you who say we can replace him with a draft pick, remember the names: Rutledge, Buster Davis, Anthony Bell and Thompson. there are no guarantees in finding a replacement in the draft at a cheaper price. Keep the proven player in Karlos and lets win a championship. I still luv ya Q!!!!!!!

 

[Duckjake]

Hey that hat you gave me is gettinga whole lot of use this summer. THX AGAIN!

I love those caps. Wish I had more of them to pass around.

I also love 2008. In 2003 the title of this thread would have been "do we HAVE to keep 53?"

 

[Goldfield]

ill take boldin over any player on the team buddy

Same here.

 

[Syracusecards]

This comment is pretty much bunk syracuse. Give me one strand of anything concrete that backs this up?

I'm basing that on a lot of people saying that when Q gets the ball in his hands, he turns into a running back. Running backs typically don't have long careers due to the punishment they absorb. Q has already had a lot of injuries because he doesn't go down on first contact. Don't get me wrong, I love watching him destroy cb's and would be tacklers, but that style of play also leads to more injuries than a guy that goes out of bounds or goes down on first contact.

I don't have stats and all that to back it up, it's just common sense.

 

[Duckjake]

I'm basing that on a lot of people saying that when Q gets the ball in his hands, he turns into a running back. Running backs typically don't have long careers due to the punishment they absorb. Q has already had a lot of injuries because he doesn't go down on first contact. Don't get me wrong, I love watching him destroy cb's and would be tacklers, but that style of play also leads to more injuries than a guy that goes out of bounds or goes down on first contact.

I don't have stats and all that to back it up, it's just common sense.

I don't know if its true or not either but if you look at the current health of Franco Harris who was criticized for running out of bounds too often and Earl Campbell who was criticized for never running out of bounds you would tend to lean toward the "more injuries" side of the debate.

Note that Franco Harris (R) is 5 years older than Earl. Both pix are from 2006.