CardinalChris said:
Neither has Arrington.
Will Shipp really be cut?
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Neither has Arrington.
CardinalChris
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john h said:
My point Exactly. Neither JJ or Marcel play ST or can pound the ball. Now which of those two would be cut first for a RB who can do those things?
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CardinalChris said:
Edge is our power back now, JJ is the speed back
Shipp is likely gone
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CardinalChris said:
Shipp, Arrington is the better back to compliment Edge and no way do they cut a rookie they just signed.
JJ will be a great change of pace back, better home run threat.
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Scott MS said:
Huh? a GREAT football player? My definition of great and yours must be miles apart.
Unless that was tongue in cheek.
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We could easily draft a running back on day 2 or bring in a 3rd tier running back in free agency to take his place. Of course, he has faced opposition in the past and risen to the challenge.
I could easily see the Cards bringing in a big nack to add balance to the backfield.
I could easily see the Cards bringing in a big nack to add balance to the backfield.
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CardinalChris said:
JJ played "some" special teams last year, I think Green was trying to toughen him up by putting him on kick coverage for a few games.
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It's not completely out of the realm that the Cards could still draft Lendale at #10. If they did that, then I would bet Shipp would be gone the day after the draft. Until they get someone better than him though, I don't see Shipp sailing away. He can still supplant Arrington as the #2 if JJ plays as soft as he did last year.
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CardShark said:
If we draft a RB in the first round with help still needed on the OLine, LB, FS, TE, QBOTF and depth at a number of positions where we aren't deep (RB we're actually semideep now) I'll throw up
Hell why don't we draft another WR in the first round while we're at it?
Can we trade Marcel for a draft pick?
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D-Dogg said:
We could try but I doubt anyone would trade for him
seesred
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You can trade him if you have a buyer. The nig question is why would a team give up draft picks on a guy that can't remeber the last time he crossed the goal line. On top of this he most likely will be cut to give us some more room for aguy like Peterson Or Mawie. There are going to be more chnages before we draft you can bet on it. Some may be big surprises. Some will not.
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Evil Ash said:
Then why the hell would anyone care if we cut him, if he is of no value to any other team or us.
CardinalChris
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He has absolutely no trade value.
Evil Ash
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D-Dogg said:
Extra cap room for us (one side of argument) vs depth on the roster.
Depth players rarely have trade value
CardShark
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Evil Ash said:
If the consensus is that Shipp and Arrington are worthless, then why wouldn't you pick a RB up at #10. Then you have someone to develop behind Edge? If they are the BPA? I personally would prefer Vernon Davis at this point. The simple fact is that the postion players you list may not be worthy of a top 10 pick as they might already be off the board. White or Deangelo Williams might be the best available.
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CardShark said:
They have value ... its depth. Most of us just don't think that they can handle the majority of the carries
Its doubtful that Lendale would be BPA anyways
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Evil Ash said:
Depth????? Are you nuts????
If Green kept players that weren't getting it done in his eyes, then LJ Shelton would still be a Card. Alot of us thought he would've provided great depth at a real position of need.
If he doesn't have confidence in a player, that player is out of here. To make this move for Edge, it has to mean he has no real confidence in any of the backs currently on the roster. I'm assuming that he's still holding out hope for JJ, but I also assume that this will be a make or break season for him as well.
My original point was that Green just might decide to shore up the RB position with that #10 pick if it's the BPA. If White isn't BPA now then he never was before and Green will go with who he feels is BPA with that high of a pick regardless of need. That's how he drafts, epecially when it deals with a blue chip draft slot.
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Scott MS said:
No he's not. Marcel Shipp doesn't bring anything more to the table than J.J. Arrington. It's just that J.J. Arrington actually has a future in the NFL, and Marcel Shipp's a guy that hasn't scored a touchdown in three seasons. He's totally worthless right now. As anything.
Jeff Gollin can keep perpetuating the myth that Shipp is a power back, but there's no evidence anywhere to suggest that. 'Femi is a better power back than Shipp is.
AntSports Steve
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Didn't Redmond get tendered as a RFA. I remember something about him not having enough qualifying years of service to become an UFA. Something about being cut in the middle of the season and a year or two not counting towards vesting.
I think he's a RFA that was tendered by the Cards. I could be wrong.
I think he's a RFA that was tendered by the Cards. I could be wrong.
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AntSports Steve said:
He's an unrestricted FA
Krangodnzr
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IMO Shipp should be cut. He hasn't lived up to his contract, plain and simple. Now if he wants to resign for less, good for him, but we can find a cheaper third back via the draft or through cuts.
Cutting Shipp would save some coin so that we could further improve the team, which is more valuable than having a back that mostly will ride the pine.
Cutting Shipp would save some coin so that we could further improve the team, which is more valuable than having a back that mostly will ride the pine.
