With Smith to KC, who takes Geno?

[Solar7]

Why do people hope he DROPS to us? He more likely has to elevate his draft status 10-20 spots to even be considered at 7.

Some team is going to take the risk on him in the top 10. I don't buy the concept that no QB goes before the second half of the first round. It just doesn't happen. I'd almost guarantee that there's two QBs taken in the first round, and at least one in the top 10.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Some team is going to take the risk on him in the top 10. I don't buy the concept that no QB goes before the second half of the first round. It just doesn't happen. I'd almost guarantee that there's two QBs taken in the first round, and at least one in the top 10.

You're probably right, I just hope we're not the one drafting a QB in the top 10. I'm sure one or more of this group will go on to having a decent career but there doesn't look to be a star among them and the bust factor is really high with all of them. I think it's better to make the safer pick with number 7 and then perhaps grab Nassib or whoever is there later on.

Steve

 

[Solar7]

You're probably right, I just hope we're not the one drafting a QB in the top 10. I'm sure one or more of this group will go on to having a decent career but there doesn't look to be a star among them and the bust factor is really high with all of them. I think it's better to make the safer pick with number 7 and then perhaps grab Nassib or whoever is there later on.

Steve

I guess I'm just of the feeling that once we get past Smith/Barkley, the potential for the guys that are left is just... awful. At least the first two seem to have a high ceiling, even if they have very low floors. The Glennons and Nassibs of the world have done nothing this offseason but justify why they're not going to be successful, or at least can't be trusted.

This team needs to draft a QB, support them, and give them time to grow in the system.

I'm terrified we're going to start 2013 with Kolb, Drew Stanton, and Brian Hoyer, and then play just well enough to force us out of position for anyone in the future.

 

[TJ]

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel asked personnel executives from five teams to evaluate prospects at the combine. Here's what 2 had to say about Geno, which gives you a nice divergence of opinion.

"He'd be the only (quarterback) I'd consider," one scout said. "He's really poised. Really good vision. He's not one of those system guys who just chucks it to the first guy. He can see the field and read defenses. He's athletic. He's gotten a lot better, too, and should get a lot better in the pros."

Another scout compared him to Akili Smith, a draft bust from 1999. "That will end the conservation," that scout said.

Opinions vary but Mayock & Kiper both have him rated a 20-32 guy. #7 overall is a reach (IMO), but he won't be there at #38 overall.

Funny...I told someone he reminded be of Akili Smith earlier today.

Geno is a 2nd round QB pushed into the 1st round because the QB class as a whole sucks this season. If he's to be successful, he needs to learn how to read defenses.

 

[Mulli]

Funny...I told someone he reminded be of Akili Smith earlier today.

Geno is a 2nd round QB pushed into the 1st round because the QB class as a whole sucks this season. If he's to be successful, he needs to learn how to read defense.

If any rookie QB is going to be succesful, he needs to learn to read defenses. Good thing the Cards hired an NFL QB guru, allegedly.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It doesn't really matter who will QB the Cards in 2013. Come draft time 2014, it will all be water under the Bridge .

 

[Mulli]

It doesn't really matter who will QB the Cards in 2013. Come draft time 2014, it will all be water under the Bridge .

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

Yessir!

The kid has a career comp % over 65% almost 72% last season. Thats just insane. Has a 5-1 TD to INT ration all at a division 1 school in what i consider big time football. He is a workout monster and has a great head on his shoulders it seems. I wouldn't hesitate to draft him..

I agree! Loved the interview he gave with Kurt Warner and him saying that he gave himself a "C" for the combine workout. Liked the humility and he seems to have that burning desire to prove his detractors wrong.

 

[Southpaw]

Teddy Bridgewater , aka the poor man's Eugene Geno Smith.

 

[joeshmo]

Funny...I told someone he reminded be of Akili Smith earlier today.

That scout that said he reminds him of Akili Smith is automatically put on the ignore list, or he is a Cards scout trying to lower his value so we can pick him.

Akili Smith couldnt even get over 58% completion percentage, and he only threw the ball 570 times his whole college career. Geno threw the ball 515 times in just his senior year.

Akili Smith isnt even close to the talent or even close to the same style as Geno Smith is. Just plain ole lazy scouting.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Teddy Bridgewater , aka the poor man's Eugene Geno Smith.

Unless he completely tanks it, Bridgewater will be the no doubt #1 choice if he comes out next year. Bridgewater is in the RG III prospect range. Smith is in the EJ Manuel prospect range. There realy is no comparison, and is a disservice to Bridgewater, propsect-wise as to who is better, and it's really not even close.

Put it this way. If Bridgewater was in this draft he'd be a Chief hands down and they would'n't have even entertained an Alex Smith trade.

 

[Dayman]

I still don't think Geno makes it to 7. Jake Locker was a top 10 pick. There's no way Geno slips into the teens.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I like Geno and would be happy if he was the pick. I wouldnt be surprised if we traded up for him too. I think he is who Arians wants based on these smokescreens.

A) "I only want a pocket passer" <-- thats exclusively what Geno is but thats not the popular perception. Throws scent a bit although not entirely.

and then

B) "Matt Barkely interviwed well with Cards and will be pick at 7" report. Yeah right who lets that out right? Misonformation. Trying to hide interest in Geno IMO.

I remember reading 4 monthes ago during season Kiem went to go watch him 2 or 3 times i believe.

This Cardinals FO seems to be handling the political game much differently from what I have seen. Oh the Cards are interested in Smith but werent sure the SF would trade in the division AFTER it was common knowledge a deal was in place with Chiefs? Sounds like spin to me after the fact.

My guess is Geno is the pick and I wouldnt be surrpised if we traded upt o 2 to get him.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Unless he completely tanks it, Bridgewater will be the no doubt #1 choice if he comes out next year. Bridgewater is in the RG III prospect range. Smith is in the EJ Manuel prospect range. There realy is no comparison, and is a disservice to Bridgewater, propsect-wise as to who is better, and it's really not even close.

Put it this way. If Bridgewater was in this draft he'd be a Chief hands down and they would'n't have even entertained an Alex Smith trade.

Not sure I agree with this but I guess well see. I think if Manziel or Mariota come out (RS Sophs) they will be picked over Bridgewater hands down. Mariota is the next coming of Colin Kapernick just watch.

 

[SunsTzu]

It doesn't really matter who will QB the Cards in 2013. Come draft time 2014, it will all be water under the Bridge .

Even if the Cards have a chance at Teddy Bridgewater next year it's highly unlikely they'd draft him if they use the #7 pick on a QB this year(which is just another reason not to select a QB that high this year).

 

[Chopper0080]

If you leave out geno's winning percentage, is there something else you don't like about his game? I am curious since you put more into this than I do.

I think Geno Smith has a lazy release, His deep balls seem to have a high trajectory which works in college but doesn't work in the Pros. I think this hides average arm strength. I very rarely saw Geno make completions in tight windows which really makes me question his accuracy when you see some of the passes he missed lasy year. West Virginia ran a lot of tunnel screens to Austin and Bailey which inflated Smith's accuracy numbers. I don't believe Geno is a leader due to the team losing 5 straight after they beat Texas and the way he carried himself in the Bowl game vs. Syracuse which came off very passive agressive. I never saw Geno Smith overcome adversity. Geno seemed to have lazy feet while he held onto the ball in the pocket and never seemed to use his feet to throw off the safety.

I believe from what I have seen from Geno Smith that he has a very steep learning curve ahead of him and I don't believe he will be given the time overcome it. He reminds me a bit of Blaine Gabbert. I think Geno will also struggle in the leadership role of the QB position in the NFL. I just don't believe he has been prepared for an easy transition to the Pros, but that is just me.

 

[Mulli]

Thanks!

I think Geno Smith has a lazy release, His deep balls seem to have a high trajectory which works in college but doesn't work in the Pros. I think this hides average arm strength. I very rarely saw Geno make completions in tight windows which really makes me question his accuracy when you see some of the passes he missed lasy year. West Virginia ran a lot of tunnel screens to Austin and Bailey which inflated Smith's accuracy numbers. I don't believe Geno is a leader due to the team losing 5 straight after they beat Texas and the way he carried himself in the Bowl game vs. Syracuse which came off very passive agressive. I never saw Geno Smith overcome adversity. Geno seemed to have lazy feet while he held onto the ball in the pocket and never seemed to use his feet to throw off the safety.

I believe from what I have seen from Geno Smith that he has a very steep learning curve ahead of him and I don't believe he will be given the time overcome it. He reminds me a bit of Blaine Gabbert. I think Geno will also struggle in the leadership role of the QB position in the NFL. I just don't believe he has been prepared for an easy transition to the Pros, but that is just me.

 

[juza76]

has a chance to be a raider..possible also cleveland will move up to take him

 

[Chopper0080]

Thanks!

You are always welcome.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He killed it in the combine, especially on the accuracy drill. Mayock now puts him solidly in the top 10.

 

[GatorAZ]

Once he smokes his pro day throwing to Austin/Bailey he's going top 10, guaranteed.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Report: Raiders interested in Geno Smith

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that there are rumors of the team’s interest in Smith, who by virtue of the fact that he was the fastest quarterback in Indy makes him an obvious candidate to play for the Raiders.

If the Raiders take him, Carson Palmer likely would be cut. And if Terrelle Pryor remains as the backup, the Raiders would become the first team to go two deep with mobile quarterbacks — which would allow them to run the same offense with either guy.

 

[red desert]

I saw an excerpt of Geno's session with Mariucci.

What you hope for in these sessions is that QB will ace the white board and the terminology. I wasn't given the impression that Geno had all of this stuff nailed. Having never coached QB's, I don't know if this means anything, but I didn't come away confident that, in terms of the mental aspect of the game, he was the next Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning.

I had the same reaction. Pass on Geno say I.

Honestly, I prefer Landry Jones or EJ Manuel. One MIGHT be available in round two. Landry probably not.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I had the same reaction. Pass on Geno say I.

Honestly, I prefer Landry Jones or EJ Manuel. One MIGHT be available in round two. Landry probably not.

Jones and his stone feet will be available in round 4.

Manuel couldnt hit the broad side of a barn in the combine. Stay away f

 

[red desert]

Jones and his stone feet will be available in round 4.

Manuel couldnt hit the broad side of a barn in the combine. Stay away f

Jones will be gone by mid second round. Bet?
Manuel no later than third. Bet?