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The most interesting proposals I have seen for #4 are coming from Sixers fans centering around #4 for Okafor. Though their offers are heavily favored for them I feel like.

It is something that could be viable if we could get real value for Len.
 

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What if they trade that #2 pick for a guy like Paul George? Hell that #4 pick is not looking too great right now. I'd love him here with Bledsoe and Booker, but not likely to happen.

What do you mean "right now"? It was never ever looking great that's why we were hoping to go for the 2nd or at least 3rd worst record.
 

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Rumor in Philly about a trade being worked on involving at least the #4 and Noel. Not sure if reliable-it's from a fan on the Sixers official forum claiming to have a "source".

Probably bogus, but fodder to talk about.
 

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Rumor in Philly about a trade being worked on involving at least the #4 and Noel. Not sure if reliable-it's from a fan on the Sixers official forum claiming to have a "source".

Probably bogus, but fodder to talk about.

Chaplin, do you have a link?
 

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Rumor in Philly about a trade being worked on involving at least the #4 and Noel. Not sure if reliable-it's from a fan on the Sixers official forum claiming to have a "source".

Probably bogus, but fodder to talk about.

Not sure I can see us taking Noel.
 

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I would take Jaylen Brown and hope he becomes a stud. I'm afraid, time is on the suns side.
 

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This is what worries me the most about Jaylen Brown:

Shooting 48% inside the arc, 29% from three, and 65% from the line for the Golden Bears, Brown didn't have the easiest time translating his game to the college ranks. With 51% of his shot attempts in the half court coming from the perimeter, the mechanical issues with Brown's jump shot became clear. Timing his release differently shot-to-shot whether he's pulling up off the bounce under pressure or shooting catch and shoot jumpers in space, Brown's mechanics are not particularly reliable at this stage. He casually fades away on some attempts unnecessarily, sometimes holding the ball longer than others at the top of his shot. His combination of mechanical issues resulted in the unimpressive 31% he shot from the perimeter overall.


As a slasher, Brown battled through bouts of inefficiency as well. Possessing a strong first step and impressive leaping ability off of one and two feet, Brown's fairly loose handle, lack of craftiness around the basket, and tendency to get tunnel vision and force shots into traffic led to his 45% shooting around the rim in the half court and top-100 leading per-40 minute pace adjusted turnover rate. While Cal's insistence on surrounding him with two to four non-shooters at all times didn't do him any favors, there's no doubt that his feel for the game is underdeveloped at this stage in his career, as evidenced by his poor -6.48 PPR, which is by far the worst passing metric among any non-big man in this draft.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jaylen-Brown-72912/
 

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Knight has value. Just like Kieff had value. Even though many on this board insisted he had none. Maybe some insist Knight has more value than he does, but I guarantee you he has value.

Kieff also had a GREAT contract. Knight may be able to garner a first round pick from some idiotic club, but I'm guessing that's the ceiling.
 

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Kieff also had a GREAT contract. Knight may be able to garner a first round pick from some idiotic club, but I'm guessing that's the ceiling.

Kieff also was awaiting trial, playing like garbage and an obvious cancer.

I don't think Knight is some lust worthy asset by any means; he has a ton of talent, is young and is on a contract that with the exploding cap isn't bad (but not particularly good either), but his playing style is a relic of early 2000s NBA. He'd be a star if he played back then, in the current league he is an awkward fit.

IMO he'd be brilliant if the Suns, or some other team who trades for him, could convince him to be a 6th man.
 

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Maybe more pieces involved....Len or Knight???? PHI does need a PG.
If we traded the #4 pick and Len for Noel, when we could have drafted Noel instead of Len a few years ago, I will go ballistic.

No chance that happens, none. Even if it were a good move (and I think it would be horrid), it's the kind of move that no GM would ever consider, far too embarrassing.
 

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Then how about the #4 and Knight for Ben McLemore?

No to that too. That, to me, is a really expensive contract dump, and what are we going to use that cap space for anyway right now?

I know this draft isn't blowing people's hair back, but there are a LOT of guys out there who you can at least HOPE will be significantly better than Ben McLemore.
 

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No to that too. That, to me, is a really expensive contract dump, and what are we going to use that cap space for anyway right now?

I know this draft isn't blowing people's hair back, but there are a LOT of guys out there who you can at least HOPE will be significantly better than Ben McLemore.

Yeah, actually that was a joke, but maybe it was too close to reality to be obvious as one.
 

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If we traded the #4 pick and Len for Noel, when we could have drafted Noel instead of Len a few years ago, I will go ballistic.

No chance that happens, none. Even if it were a good move (and I think it would be horrid), it's the kind of move that no GM would ever consider, far too embarrassing.

I'm against it as well. However, to play along there would need to be a swap of #1 for #4 or something along those lines.
 

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Yeah, actually that was a joke, but maybe it was too close to reality to be obvious as one.


If you'd said Len I would have been certain you were kidding, but that you threw Knight in there, who seems to be at the center of every "lets shoot ourselves in the face" hypothetical, I took at as probably serious.
 

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