With the second pick in the 2007 nfl draft....

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The Arizona Cardinals select............

Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma


Here is the deal:

1. We all know the Cards arent getting the first pick. As bad as they have historically been, they never are the very worst in any one season -- you can bet that they will beat a disinterested SD team the last game of the season to cost them the first overall slot. That leaves Detroit to take Brady Quinn.

2. Joe Thomas is tempting, but too high for the second pick, and nobody is trading up for #2.

3. The Cards pull the Indy miracle part two: Indy had Marshall Faulk and a promising QB named Payton Manning coming off his rookie season. They shocked everyone by trading Faulk for all of a 2nd round pick and took Edgerrin James. Colts offense explodes and the rest is history.

The Cards trade away an increasingly disconsolate James to a contender for a 2nd round pick. Adrian comes in to team up with Matt, offense explodes. Circle of life is complete.

4. Why Peterson? Well, after Quinn -- it seems that Calvin Johnson and Peterson are neck and neck for #2. The Cards got the wideout spots covered -- and could use the home run hitting ability of Peterson. He is 6', 210 lbs and runs a 4.4. This guy is Reggie Bush explosive, but with 25 carries a game size.

I for one am tired of seeing those occasions when Edge does hit the second level of the defense and quickly gets caught from behind. At this point in his career, he is a mucker. Keeps his feet, always forward, but isnt going to run away from anybody.

5. Well what about the OL? This draft is deep enough in good tackles that one will be there at pick #34 or so.


I have said my peace, at least on this. Discuss.
 

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The Arizona Cardinals select............

Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma


Here is the deal:

1. We all know the Cards arent getting the first pick. As bad as they have historically been, they never are the very worst in any one season -- you can bet that they will beat a disinterested SD team the last game of the season to cost them the first overall slot. That leaves Detroit to take Brady Quinn.

2. Joe Thomas is tempting, but too high for the second pick, and nobody is trading up for #2.

3. The Cards pull the Indy miracle part two: Indy had Marshall Faulk and a promising QB named Payton Manning coming off his rookie season. They shocked everyone by trading Faulk for all of a 2nd round pick and took Edgerrin James. Colts offense explodes and the rest is history.

The Cards trade away an increasingly disconsolate James to a contender for a 2nd round pick. Adrian comes in to team up with Matt, offense explodes. Circle of life is complete.

4. Why Peterson? Well, after Quinn -- it seems that Calvin Johnson and Peterson are neck and neck for #2. The Cards got the wideout spots covered -- and could use the home run hitting ability of Peterson. He is 6', 210 lbs and runs a 4.4. This guy is Reggie Bush explosive, but with 25 carries a game size.

I for one am tired of seeing those occasions when Edge does hit the second level of the defense and quickly gets caught from behind. At this point in his career, he is a mucker. Keeps his feet, always forward, but isnt going to run away from anybody.

5. Well what about the OL? This draft is deep enough in good tackles that one will be there at pick #34 or so.


I have said my peace, at least on this. Discuss.

No discussion necessary. :thumbup:
 

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I like your thinking here. I for one never want the Cardinals to draft an offensive lineman with a top five pick...not after the Leonard "false start" Davis debacle. As you said, the draft is deep enough to address O-line needs in later rounds, but instead of Peterson...how about this? Ted Ginn. We get a deep threat that we desperately need with a PR/KR to boot. Address some O-line needs and see how Edge fairs for one more year. If he still shows that he is over the hill, then you get your RB the following year.
 
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I like your thinking here. I for one never want the Cardinals to draft an offensive lineman with a top five pick...not after the Leonard "false start" Davis debacle. As you said, the draft is deep enough to address O-line needs in later rounds, but instead of Peterson...how about this? Ted Ginn. We get a deep threat that we desperately need with a PR/KR to boot. Address some O-line needs and see how Edge fairs for one more year. If he still shows that he is over the hill, then you get your RB the following year.

I like Ginn -- just seems that #2 overall is wayyyyyyy to high to take him. And as much of a BPA advocate I am, WR is last on the list of needs
 

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I love the picture you paint! Does anyone have any ideas of a team that may think Edge puts them over the top. I don't dislike Edge at all, in fact, I thought he would be a good FA pickup, but he has no break-away speed and on any team without a powerful o-line, he will just plain suck. Indy is an exception, it is not often that teams come around that can pass so well nearly any running back can be successful. Please don't read this as me thinking Edge is just "any back", he isn't, he is the best running back AZ has had in years, but realistically, without the other tools, we have made Edge look like a big turd. Unfortunately, I think he is starting to realize that and his confidence is shrinking.
 

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What teams are "contenders" that don't already have a RB?

Maybe Philly (and even they have Westbrook, but he's not really a between the tackles runner), but outside of them I really can't think of anyone.
 

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I love the picture you paint! Does anyone have any ideas of a team that may think Edge puts them over the top. I don't dislike Edge at all, in fact, I thought he would be a good FA pickup, but he has no break-away speed and on any team without a powerful o-line, he will just plain suck. Indy is an exception, it is not often that teams come around that can pass so well nearly any running back can be successful. Please don't read this as me thinking Edge is just "any back", he isn't, he is the best running back AZ has had in years, but realistically, without the other tools, we have made Edge look like a big turd. Unfortunately, I think he is starting to realize that and his confidence is shrinking.

How about the New York Giants with Tike Barber retiring? Seems like a good fit and for a 2nd rounder it would be worth it for both teams. They have Bradon Jacobs who is a big back for short yardage. The Edge would be a good fit for the Big Apple.
 

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If we look at Thomas, Long, Baker etc. and decide that one of them could be a pro-bowl tackle than we should pick them. Marv Levy showed us that what the talking heads etc. say is unimportant. What matters is that you get a player who you feel will be great. I think that Thomas, Long, Baker or someone else in this draft could be great.
 

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The Arizona Cardinals select............

Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma


Here is the deal:



3. The Cards pull the Indy miracle part two: Indy had Marshall Faulk and a promising QB named Payton Manning coming off his rookie season. They shocked everyone by trading Faulk for all of a 2nd round pick and took Edgerrin James. Colts offense explodes and the rest is history.

The Cards trade away an increasingly disconsolate James to a contender for a 2nd round pick. Adrian comes in to team up with Matt, offense explodes. Circle of life is complete.
Discuss.

No thanks. For some reason, I bet Peyton was Faulk so he could have his ring. I honestly do not think that he will lead his team to a Superbowl victory. I am not saying that Faulk instead of James would have done it, but I bet that he envies Faulk for his ring.

How many times do we have to take backs highly in the draft, before we realize that it is not the back that is the Cards problem. It's the OLine people!!!
 

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I think Calvin Johnson will be the first pick in the draft.

Now that is one pick I could pretty much guarantee that we do not select, unless we are selecting for another team.
 

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I like Ginn -- just seems that #2 overall is wayyyyyyy to high to take him. And as much of a BPA advocate I am, WR is last on the list of needs

Ginn is projected as a top 5 pick. As far as a speed WR goes, I think that would do a world's difference in our offense. I'm salivating more over the prospect of Ginn returning kicks and punts. Boldin and Fitz are very similar receivers and our supposed deep threat in Johnson is just a joke. Fix O-line in the draft and FA, grab a corner, and Ginn. Judgment can then be passed on Edge.

We would also need a coach that will involve a TE in the gameplan and we can see what we have in Pope. At this point I don't know...Green's plan doesn't seem to involve him at all.
 

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Thanks. I still think we should keep Edge and give him a chance with a real coach and O-line. Statisically O-linemen are the safetst pick. I don't think Davis would be that bad if bonehead Denny wasn't playing him out of posistion.
 

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I think if we dont trade down for a bunch of picks we will have a major holdout in the offseason....#2 is alot of cash.
 
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How many times do we have to take backs highly in the draft, before we realize that it is not the back that is the Cards problem. It's the OLine people!!!

its kinda like 2001, when to address the offensive line the Cards took Leonard Davis and passed on Ladanian Tomlinson

Hindsight? no question, and I am sure it would take like 5 seconds to find a draft where a really good offensive lineman was passed over in favor of a bust running back --

but if Peterson grades out like I think he will -- he will be a much higher rated player than the nearest offensive lineman, and I would hate to see the Cards reach for need.
 

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Why is everyone so qucik to give up on Edge? He could break 1,000 yards something an AZ RB hasn't done in a long time. He's doing his best with a bad O-line and an even worse coach. I still think he can bring something to this team. If we spend a 1st round pick on a RB I will be pissed. The line needs to get fixed and we need more LB's or DE. If you don't want to take Thomas with a 2nd pick then trade it. If you can't trade it then take Gaines Adams, or Alan Branch. Why draft Peterson to have him run behind a line that Walter Payton of Barry Sanders would have a hard time gaining 1,000 yards behind. The last thing we need is to waste a high draft pick on a RB. RB's are one of the riskiest players to draft in the NFL (anyone remember J.J. Arrington, Thomas Jones,Leeland McElroy, Garrison Hearst?). They were all supposed to be RB's of the future for AZ and what did they all do when they were here? Nothing. James will be in the Hall of Fame and will be fine and productive for us. Enough of the sexy picks and just get guys that can fix the line.
 
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The Arizona Cardinals select............

Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma


Here is the deal:

1. We all know the Cards arent getting the first pick. As bad as they have historically been, they never are the very worst in any one season -- you can bet that they will beat a disinterested SD team the last game of the season to cost them the first overall slot. That leaves Detroit to take Brady Quinn.

2. Joe Thomas is tempting, but too high for the second pick, and nobody is trading up for #2.

3. The Cards pull the Indy miracle part two: Indy had Marshall Faulk and a promising QB named Payton Manning coming off his rookie season. They shocked everyone by trading Faulk for all of a 2nd round pick and took Edgerrin James. Colts offense explodes and the rest is history.

The Cards trade away an increasingly disconsolate James to a contender for a 2nd round pick. Adrian comes in to team up with Matt, offense explodes. Circle of life is complete.

4. Why Peterson? Well, after Quinn -- it seems that Calvin Johnson and Peterson are neck and neck for #2. The Cards got the wideout spots covered -- and could use the home run hitting ability of Peterson. He is 6', 210 lbs and runs a 4.4. This guy is Reggie Bush explosive, but with 25 carries a game size.

I for one am tired of seeing those occasions when Edge does hit the second level of the defense and quickly gets caught from behind. At this point in his career, he is a mucker. Keeps his feet, always forward, but isnt going to run away from anybody.

5. Well what about the OL? This draft is deep enough in good tackles that one will be there at pick #34 or so.


I have said my peace, at least on this. Discuss.


I couldn't agree more - and James probobly hopes it plays out that way too.
I'm all for Peterson as I've posted allready too.
 

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You will not be able to trade Edge with his salary at this stage of his career. It will be very difficult, if not impossible.
 

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You will not be able to trade Edge with his salary at this stage of his career. It will be very difficult, if not impossible.

No because we paid him over 13 mill. this season. Next yr. is much less, and the following yrs. still less. It's a trading friendly contract for this team more or less. We don't even need a 2nd IMO.
 

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RB's are one of the riskiest players to draft in the NFL (anyone remember J.J. Arrington, Thomas Jones,Leeland McElroy, Garrison Hearst?).

Except for WR every position is risky for the Cardinals.
 

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