Would you do this trade?

[Cheesebeef]

To Philly for Westbrook and their 1st rounder? They want a receiver and we need a RB.

Westbrook is MORE valuable than Q. No way in hell they would give him up straight up, much less along with a first round pick.

 

[Mulli]

To Philly for Westbrook and their 1st rounder? They want a receiver and we need a RB.

interesting

 

[joeshmo]

To Philly for Westbrook and their 1st rounder? They want a receiver and we need a RB.

A 30 year old RB who is prepetually injured every season. No thanks. Maybe 2 years ago, but I dont want any RB's who are going into their swan songs. Once they hit 30 you dont know what you will get anymore.

Also I am not sure why people keep mentioning teams with top 10 picks. Not a chance in hell we get a top 10 pick for Boldin. Also dont think there is a chance the Cards want to evenbe close to another top 10 salary for a while.

Also there hasnt been a good player for good player trade in more then 10 years. Player for player trades are dead in this league.

 

[joeshmo]

depends on who they decide to tag... Peppers or Gross. If Peppers is tagged, offer them Q to go along with Steve Smith. Not crazy about keeping Q in the conference but if we were able to get an absolute stud DE that would be HUGE for our D.

It wont be Peppers. Peppers would cost 19 mill to tag him. Thats why it is a certianty that he will be gone.

Peppers did say in his last interview that he does want to play in a 3-4 defense though. I think we put a bug in his ear when we met up in the playoffs and he is as good as signed to out team this offseason.

 

[moklerman]

I think Q's value may not be as high as everyone here thinks. NFL teams rarely give up a 1st for any player, much less a WR that never plays 16 games and has now decided to become what every GM in the league is having nightmares about. Chad Johnson, TO and others are already out there and all of them can be had if the right offer is offered.

I think most teams, regardless of talent, are staying away from these guys now though. Even Jones is considering dumping TO. Boldin has picked the worst possible time to act the way that he's acting and I think it's going to cost him any shot at being traded unless the Cards just want to wash their hands of him and give him away. I don't think they'll do that though and Chad Johnson is the model for this situation.

If a WR wants to kick and scream and pout because they're not happy with what they agreed to, let 'em go sit in the corner while the rest of the team moves on. No one can make as much noise as Chad did and the Bengals didn't cave in to his demands and I think other teams realized that just because a star isn't happy they don't have to give them what they want.

If Boldin thinks that he can bad mouth the team at this point as some sort of leverage then he really is possessed by $$$. I think a lot of people would have sided with him before the season started but Whis and Graves have trumped him and their judgement is going to outweigh any selfish antics.

 

[Mulli]

It wont be Peppers. Peppers would cost 19 mill to tag him. Thats why it is a certianty that he will be gone.

Peppers did say in his last interview that he does want to play in a 3-4 defense though. I think we put a bug in his ear when we met up in the playoffs and he is as good as signed to out team this offseason.

Does he want to be a OLB? Does he think he can play DL in a 3-4? Weird.

 

[Unsterblich856]

Does he want to be a OLB? Does he think he can play DL in a 3-4? Weird.

He made a public statement that he wants to be a DeMarcus Ware-type 3-4 OLB.

 

[NMCard]

On panthers huddle they would like to get Q and two lower round picks for Peppers.

 

[Mulli]

He made a public statement that he wants to be a DeMarcus Ware-type 3-4 OLB.

silly.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Boldin has picked the worst possible time to act the way that he's acting and I think it's going to cost him any shot at being traded unless the Cards just want to wash their hands of him and give him away. I don't think they'll do that though and Chad Johnson is the model for this situation.

If a WR wants to kick and scream and pout because they're not happy with what they agreed to, let 'em go sit in the corner while the rest of the team moves on. No one can make as much noise as Chad did and the Bengals didn't cave in to his demands and I think other teams realized that just because a star isn't happy they don't have to give them what they want.

while you're right that the Bengals didn't give into his demands, they probably should have and gotten what could for him when they could because he just flat out shut it down this year on the field and now they can't get bubkis for him. Screw that. This team has proven it can win and win BIG without Boldin. Why not continue to build on that team and get rid of a guy who will turn into a possible cancer?

 

[HoodieBets]

I would trade Q to the lions for their second and fourth with a conditional pick for next year depending on games played. This way we wont have to ever worry about Q hurting us, plus detroit will have their franchise QB and two ace WR's to help him i think detroit would jump at it

PS in the off season we throw the bank at sproles and Suggs those are the only two guys i want this off season

 

[Cheesebeef]

I would trade Q to the lions for their second and fourth with a conditional pick for next year depending on games played. This way we wont have to ever worry about Q hurting us, plus detroit will have their franchise QB and two ace WR's to help him i think detroit would jump at it

PS in the off season we throw the bank at sproles and Suggs those are the only two guys i want this off season

Sproles ain't Michael Turner folks. Unless you want to throw bank at a change of pace/third down back/kick returner, I'd keep that money and take care of our own (like Dansby, Kurt and Dockett... and probably Wilson, although as much as I hate to say it, he's getting there in years).

 

[Ryanwb]

Someone is going to give Tomlinson a ridiculous contract after he's released

 

[HoodieBets]

Sproles ain't Michael Turner folks. Unless you want to throw bank at a change of pace/third down back/kick returner, I'd keep that money and take care of our own (like Dansby, Kurt and Dockett... and probably Wilson, although as much as I hate to say it, he's getting there in years).

Whats the diff between sproles and the beloved AP you wanted so bad? given a full season i see sproles putting up the same numbers, he is a homerun hitter everytime he touches the ball and never seems to loose yards for a small guy he is built like a bull.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Sproles ain't Michael Turner folks. Unless you want to throw bank at a change of pace/third down back/kick returner, I'd keep that money and take care of our own (like Dansby, Kurt and Dockett... and probably Wilson, although as much as I hate to say it, he's getting there in years).

I'm with you.. except on Dockett... He's signed thru 2011. Why in the world should we do something for him now? If he has a great year next year - ok... But geez... where do you draw the line with this crap???

Also, Sproles is a neat little back. However, NOT worth the money he will attract...
I would MUCH prefer to grab a true, everydown threat at running back. JJ can work for us as the off speed pitch...

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Be happy with a second for Q at this point. Not that I dont think he is worth more, but no team will trade more than that for him based on his past injury history alone.

If the Cards could squeeze a 2nd and a late rounder for him, pull the trigger immediatly. (Of course thisi s based on the assumption Q and the Cards cant come together on a contract extension/upgrade; which I think they still can)

 

[moklerman]

Why not continue to build on that team and get rid of a guy who will turn into a possible cancer?

Just depends on what you want to do. I think this is an important "big picture" situation that the Cardinals have historically lost. Giving in to a player's demands, especially when they aren't truly being mistreated, sets a bad precedent. The Cardinals are in the driver's seat on this one.

Boldin can be unhappy 6 days a week as long as he performs on Sunday or he can shut it down and be given the Keyshawn treatment for being detrimental to the team. Giving in to his tantrums doesn't really benefit the team because the Cardinals are never going to get equal value.

Like I said, at this point if a trade is made they are just washing their hands of him(unless some miracle Roy Williams trade is offered which I don't see happening since it completely blew up in the Cowboys' face). If they do that, then they lose in the short term and the long run.

I agree that having him turn into a cancer would be a bad thing but Edge was hardly a positive influence for much of this year and in the end, disciplining him for breaking team rules sent a message and whether it's a contract or a dose of reality, he is certainly more motivated than he was before.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Just depends on what you want to do. I think this is an important "big picture" situation that the Cardinals have historically lost. Giving in to a player's demands, especially when they aren't truly being mistreated, sets a bad precedent. The Cardinals are in the driver's seat on this one.

Boldin can be unhappy 6 days a week as long as he performs on Sunday or he can shut it down and be given the Keyshawn treatment for being detrimental to the team. Giving in to his tantrums doesn't really benefit the team because the Cardinals are never going to get equal value.

Like I said, at this point if a trade is made they are just washing their hands of him(unless some miracle Roy Williams trade is offered which I don't see happening since it completely blew up in the Cowboys' face). If they do that, then they lose in the short term and the long run.

I agree that having him turn into a cancer would be a bad thing but Edge was hardly a positive influence for much of this year and in the end, disciplining him for breaking team rules sent a message and whether it's a contract or a dose of reality, he is certainly more motivated than he was before.

Do you really believe Q is going to play next season for $2.75 million?? I don't. I think he will do whatever he needs to get traded to a team that will immediately re-sign him to a much more hefty contract!
Q is toast... We need to trade him and deal with it... I think we can get a 1st and 3rd for him... Why not?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Whats the diff between sproles and the beloved AP you wanted so bad?

are you kidding, 7 inches and 40 pounds is the difference.

 

[HoodieBets]

Do you really believe Q is going to play next season for $2.75 million?? I don't. I think he will do whatever he needs to get traded to a team that will immediately re-sign him to a much more hefty contract!
Q is toast... We need to trade him and deal with it... I think we can get a 1st and 3rd for him... Why not?

We wont get a first bc he gets hurt every year and has been a public malcontent i think we should just realize he isnt worth a one

 

[joshstmarie]

we should trade him for a punter, was anyone else sick of seeing 33 yard punts and the eagles starting on the 40ish yard line EVERY TIME. wow. that guy is terrible.

 

[HoodieBets]

are you kidding, 7 inches and 40 pounds is the difference.

Your right AP only gets hurt every year and has fumbling issues, plus unlike AP sproles is one of the best KR/PR in the game so he not only contributes on offense but on special teams as well.

 

[anks106]

Hell yeah I would, they wouldn't thoguh

 

[Cheesebeef]

Just depends on what you want to do. I think this is an important "big picture" situation that the Cardinals have historically lost. Giving in to a player's demands, especially when they aren't truly being mistreated, sets a bad precedent. The Cardinals are in the driver's seat on this one.

Boldin can be unhappy 6 days a week as long as he performs on Sunday or he can shut it down and be given the Keyshawn treatment for being detrimental to the team. Giving in to his tantrums doesn't really benefit the team because the Cardinals are never going to get equal value.

Like I said, at this point if a trade is made they are just washing their hands of him(unless some miracle Roy Williams trade is offered which I don't see happening since it completely blew up in the Cowboys' face). If they do that, then they lose in the short term and the long run.

I agree that having him turn into a cancer would be a bad thing but Edge was hardly a positive influence for much of this year and in the end, disciplining him for breaking team rules sent a message and whether it's a contract or a dose of reality, he is certainly more motivated than he was before.

but Edge NEVER did anything in public like Q has done. Yeah, we're in the driver's seat... to get better by letting Q go. They didn't give in to his demands last year, they held firm, found out they would actually be just as good if not BETTER without him and no realize they can continue to get better. They've made their point... now the point is to get better.

I mean, you said the Bengals did it right... but look at how awful that team is and how they can't get any better now because of the situation. Sometimes, it's just better to have a parting of the ways. Hell, I think it's better to trade Boldin anyway as he's injury prone, getting older and we've got more important people to give scratch to on the team.

and I don't think they need to "wash their hands" of him. But I DON'T think they need to get all the Lions got for Williams either. There's a middle ground. It's all about getting better and having Boldin on this team... or even worse, holding out and then him coming back at the end of training camp only to be out of shape and pull a hammy or do whatever injury's coming next which sacrifices a spot on the team which could be used to make us better just makes no sense to me.

again, you point to the Bengals, but now that team is screwed, locked in with a guy who's getting older, has little skill and is just a drag on the team. I don't want that on my ball-club. Shape up, or ship his ass out.

 

[nashman]

Sorry but Q is under contract and is easily worth a 1st and a 3rd if not more! If Roy williams got dallas to give up what they did we don't accept a poor trade for Boldin. Either a team ponies up what we want ideally a player and a couple pics or we keep him. I don't care that Boldin THINKS he has the power he doesn't the Cards hold all the Cards so to speak, its our way or nothing! Screw DR they are not in a position to get too ridiculous or his client might end up sitting for a few years!