Wow, Orton has $8.9 million salary

[Totally_Red]

Now I know why the Broncos are trying to unload him. Josh McDaniels' wheeling & dealing left Denver in horrible salary cap shape and they just can't afford the salary cap hit.


http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_18556271

Trying to trade Kyle Orton is one thing. Succeeding is something else.
The Broncos have known this for a while, which is why they've been playing poker on the subject of their starting quarterback since the new regime took over at Dove Valley.

They're not trying to trade Orton because they want to. They're trying to trade him because they have to. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones who know this, which doesn't help their bargaining position.
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In other words, if the Broncos want to sign any veteran unrestricted free agents, they'll have to cut or trade significant contracts. At $8.9 million, Orton's is high on that list.


Read more: Krieger: QB Kyle Orton's salary too much to bear for Broncos - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_18556271#ixzz1TJCV2dEp
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[Goldfield]

Doesn't seem high to me. What do starting qb's in this league make?

 

[kerouac9]

That's the going rate for a starting QB in the NFL today. He's in the second year of a one-year contract extension from last summer. Joe thinks that he'll want $10 million per year on an extension, but I wouldn't pay that.

That's the good thing about trading for Orton with a 3rd: the Cards don't care about 3rd round picks or getting anything out of them. If Orton plays a year and leaves in free agency, then you're not really out anything.

 

[Duckjake]

That's the going rate for a starting QB in the NFL today. He's in the second year of a one-year contract extension from last summer. Joe thinks that he'll want $10 million per year on an extension, but I wouldn't pay that.

That's the good thing about trading for Orton with a 3rd: the Cards don't care about 3rd round picks or getting anything out of them. If Orton plays a year and leaves in free agency, then you're not really out anything.

Hey if the Cards go with Skelator they get a starting QB in the NFL for $320,000. That frees up 9.6 million to get a pass rusher.

 

[moklerman]

JASON LA CANFORA
Broncos shop Orton; Cards, Dolphins in mix
Posted: July 27th, 2011 | Jason La Canfora | Tags: Kyle Orton, Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Miami Dolphins

Numerous teams spoke to the Broncos on Tuesday about QB Kyle Orton, with the Cardinals and Dolphins remaining favorites, according to league sources.

The Broncos are very open to dealing their starting QB, and Orton could have to rework his contract to facilitate a trade — a process his agents have permission to do.

Orton has one year left on his current deal, and communications on a trade were set to continue Wednesday.

So, do the Cardinals need to make a move or are they pretty much resigned to signing Kolb and just waiting? Are they trying to drive his price down by letting the rest of the market find other options first? Would that work or would it just cause Philly to hang onto Kolb?

 

[AntSports Steve]

It might be hard for PHI to "hang onto Kolb".


If I am Kolb, my expectations are : 1) be traded, 2) be a starter, and 3) Get a huge signing bonus and new large salary.

If I am Kolb, would I want to sit on the Eagles bench and just maked $1.2M this year? No

So, if PHI tries to keep Kolb, Kolb will 1) Demand a trade, 2) Hold out until the last week where you can still get an accured NFL year, which is like Week 8. That causes PHI to have the threat of no backup QB.

Hopefully Kolb won't need to hold out and force a trade, because PHI knows this and will eventually trade him.

 

[RonF]

The sticking point for the Cards getting Kolb may be what he expects to be paid in a new contract. I hope the Cards aren't betting it all on one player, they better have Plan B ready to go. Time is running out, most of the available QBs are gone already.

 

[BigRedRage]

im sure we would renegotiate that figure.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

im sure we would renegotiate that figure.

Not really. 9M isn't that expensive for a starting QB. I'd say it is on the lower end actually.

 

[BigRedRage]

Anderson was due to make under 4 million. We paid warner like 10 million right? Ill take 9mil since I think he is our best option but thats a lot of dough.

 

[BigRedRage]

eli manning only made 10.million last year brother peyton made 8.2 million last year but carson made it with 13.5 million on the top of the list​

The New York Giants' Eli Manning, also a Condon client, signed a six-year extension in August that raised his average salary to $16.25 million, the highest for a multiyear deal.

Rivers, the San Diego Chargers quarterback, earned more in salary and bonuses in 2009 than any other NFL player, according to a USA TODAY analysis of player salaries. Rivers, who averages $15.3 million a year, got a $19.55 million signing bonus with a renegotiated contract in August.
Cutler signed an extension with the Chicago Bears that raised his average salary to $14.67 million.
Peyton Manning had the highest salary-cap figure ($21,205,718) in 2009 but was sixth among quarterbacks with a $14 million average. Before the Super Bowl, Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said he expected Manning, signed through 2012, to become the NFL's highest-paid player.
Brady, entering the final year of his contract, could end up in the same neighborhood. His average of $12.13 million is more than $4 million less than Eli Manning's. "Obviously, he's an important part of what we're doing," New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft said last week. "There'll be a time and place for it."
The NFL's average salary for 2009 was $1.896 million, with a median of $790,000. Of the 118 players selected to the Pro Bowl (including replacements and non-participants), more than half carried contracts averaging at least $4 million a year, including 15 with averages of at least $10 million. At the lower end of the scale, we make a case for a raise for these four Pro Bowlers:

hmm

 

[AsUdUdE]

It might be hard for PHI to "hang onto Kolb".


If I am Kolb, my expectations are : 1) be traded, 2) be a starter, and 3) Get a huge signing bonus and new large salary.

If I am Kolb, would I want to sit on the Eagles bench and just maked $1.2M this year? No

So, if PHI tries to keep Kolb, Kolb will 1) Demand a trade, 2) Hold out until the last week where you can still get an accured NFL year, which is like Week 8. That causes PHI to have the threat of no backup QB.

Hopefully Kolb won't need to hold out and force a trade, because PHI knows this and will eventually trade him.

Unfortunantly Kolb has already said if he is not traded he will show up be a great teamate and not make a fuss because that is not the player he is...

I called it before, but I just have a feeling Kolb is staying put in Philly..

 

[Gee!]

That's the going rate for a starting QB in the NFL today.

Ya, starting QB's make that.. But Orton is a back up.. No one should start him..

 

[BigRedRage]

Unfortunantly Kolb has already said if he is not traded he will show up be a great teamate and not make a fuss because that is not the player he is...

I called it before, but I just have a feeling Kolb is staying put in Philly..

if they dont lower their asking price he will, which is brilliant really. Shop your QB but praise him so much that if you do keep him hes still confident and if you dont you get massive compensation. Well played, Andy.

 

[BigRedRage]

Ya, starting QB's make that.. But Orton is a back up.. No one should start him..

Looking at ortons numbers he is easily a starter and minus warner the best QB we have had on the roster in a long long time.

 

[Gee!]

Looking at ortons numbers he is easily a starter and minus warner the best QB we have had on the roster in a long long time.

Careful what you wish for...

 

[BigRedRage]

Careful what you wish for...

Whats your better idea? Bulger is a stopgap at best. Hasselback is gone. Its orton or kolb and kolb has proven that he can manage spot duty and get concussions. Orton has proved he can win games, throw more tds than picks. etc...

Cautioning my preference is a joke if yours is Kolb.

 

[BigRedRage]

kolb last year 7 td 7 int 60.8 completion and 76.1 rating. This was his most games played ina year.

Orton last year 20td 9int 58.8 completion and 87.5 rating in more than double the games. Plus almost 4k yards. Previous year was very similar. All for it.

 

[Gee!]

Whats your better idea? Bulger is a stopgap at best. Hasselback is gone. Its orton or kolb and kolb has proven that he can manage spot duty and get concussions. Orton has proved he can win games, throw more tds than picks. etc...

Cautioning my preference is a joke if yours is Kolb.

I dont have an idea.. Unlike most people Im just sitting back watching it all play out.. Not gettin myself worked up into a tizzy.. I do not like Orton though.. I think Ive made that clear in the past.. If we get Orton then Ill show some emotion..

 

[BigRedRage]

no tizzy, but to be warning people or wanting orton is silly considering he is by far the most proven option available.

 

[AsUdUdE]

Whats your better idea? Bulger is a stopgap at best. Hasselback is gone. Its orton or kolb and kolb has proven that he can manage spot duty and get concussions. Orton has proved he can win games, throw more tds than picks. etc...

Cautioning my preference is a joke if yours is Kolb.

Coming from a Bronco fan... Orton didn't "win" any games for the Broncos, he just didn't lose many...

He is pretty good in the 1st quarter, but in the fourth when the game was on the line he rarely if ever made the throw to win the game... he just didn't throw the int....

Orton is the ultimate game manager which in realty is MILES ahead of anything we have, but I think he gets too much credit for his stats..

 

[Gee!]

no tizzy, but to be warning people or wanting orton is silly considering he is by far the most proven option available.

Never said you were in a tizzy..

As for all the QB's weve gone over every stat.. Every variable.. Im just gonna let it play out.. See, what or how much, we give up for the player.. then move on from there..

 

[BigRedRage]

Coming from a Bronco fan... Orton didn't "win" any games for the Broncos, he just didn't lose many...

He is pretty good in the 1st quarter, but in the fourth when the game was on the line he rarely if ever made the throw to win the game... he just didn't throw the int....

Orton is the ultimate game manager which in realty is MILES ahead of anything we have, but I think he gets too much credit for his stats..

Ill take kolb or orton over DA, managing a game is the least we could have asked for last year.

First quarter play is vital, we are unstoppable when we come out to an early 10 pt lead.

 

[BigRedRage]

Never said you were in a tizzy..

As for all the QB's weve gone over every stat.. Every variable.. Im just gonna let it play out.. See, what or how much, we give up for the player.. then more on from there..

thats a fav of mine too is that he comes for a third, not a starter and a second.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Hey if the Cards go with Skelator they get a starting QB in the NFL for $320,000. That frees up 9.6 million to get a pass rusher.

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