You're The GM

[Phrazbit]

The ONLY team that would have traded out of that spot or would have drafted and traded Wiggins was Cleveland. That's because they already had LeBron and had to build around him and keep him happy.

I do not see any team trading out of the #1 spot this year unless it's for Steph, or AD or a similar player.

Yeah, that was a very rare circumstance. Cleveland had just signed LeBron and wanted to win immediately, and the pick was traded for Love, who was widely viewed as a superstar. It is very hard to imagine an equivalency possible this summer. Whoever lands that pick there are 99.9% odds they keep it and the only way they move it is for a superstar in their prime.

 

[slinslin]

1.
Wiggins was not considered nearly the prospect Simmons is turning out to be.
Wiggins had a lot of hype in highschool but his freshman season at Kansas was underwhelming.
The only way a team can trade for #1 Simmons is if you have the #2 pick Ingram.
Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram both are likely to grade as franchise changing draft picks. I give Ingram a slight chance to go ahead of Simmons.

2.
The Suns can't trade Markieff for nothing. The capspace created by that is not worth anything and doing so will mean that they let Markieff win.
It will make the Suns FO look weak if players in the future want to force themselves away from the team.

 

[JCSunsfan]

1.
Wiggins was not considered nearly the prospect Simmons is turning out to be.
Wiggins had a lot of hype in highschool but his freshman season at Kansas was underwhelming.
The only way a team can trade for #1 Simmons is if you have the #2 pick Ingram.
Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram both are likely to grade as franchise changing draft picks. I give Ingram a slight chance to go ahead of Simmons.

2.
The Suns can't trade Markieff for nothing. The capspace created by that is not worth anything and doing so will mean that they let Markieff win.
It will make the Suns FO look weak if players in the future want to force themselves away from the team.

1. Disagree. Wiggins was hyped more than Simmons IMO.
2. Agree.

Not sure how to determine #1 except how I perceived it. NBAdraft.net ratings were similar.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ben-simmons
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-wiggins

 

[slinslin]

You are wrong about Wiggins, he was only more hyped in highschool. After his freshman year a lot of people were down on him and some had Parker at #1.

He averaged 17/4.5/1.5/1/1

For reference
Ben Simmons 20/13/5/2/1.5
Brandon Ingram 16/6.2/1.7/1.6/1.7

 

[Phrazbit]

Wiggins was more hyped, as the year wound down the luster started to wear off a bit but he was the most hyped potential pick since Oden and Oden was the most hyped since LeBron.

 

[Catlover]

Wiggins was far more hyped coming into college but that died down once the season started. Simmons OTOH is raising his profile with every game. 20 points, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block per game is unheard of in a major college conference.

 

[GatorAZ]

Embiid would've gone #1 if he were healthy but Wiggins was a very safe prospect. Simmons looks a lot more comfortable than Wiggins did. He is an initiative player and Wiggins more reactive. Alpha vs #2.

 

[Mainstreet]

If I'm the Suns GM I would be thinking about Friday among other things.

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Defense has filed a special action in State v Marcus and Markieff Morris. Next hearing is 1/15/16 at 8:30 before Judge Sinclair.

https://twitter.com/courtpio/status/662297433179688960

 

[95pro]

Maybe fire myself if I was GM, but I'd have to ponder that for the rest of the season.

 

[FArting]

Trade Markieff and Archie

 

[Catlover]

Embiid would've gone #1 if he were healthy but Wiggins was a very safe prospect. Simmons looks a lot more comfortable than Wiggins did. He is an initiative player and Wiggins more reactive. Alpha vs #2.

Easily. And Parker had a lot of push for the top spot too. But until his first college game Wiggins was being hyped as the next Lebron James. As for Simmons, I think he's one of the safest one-and-done players ever. I have no idea what his ceiling is but short of a career altering injury he appears to be almost bust-proof.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If I'm the Suns GM I would be thinking about Friday among other things.



https://twitter.com/courtpio/status/662297433179688960

It would be really nice to get that resolved, one way or another. I don't care how, really. If they get jail time, fine. Just get it over with.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Easily. And Parker had a lot of push for the top spot too. But until his first college game Wiggins was being hyped as the next Lebron James. As for Simmons, I think he's one of the safest one-and-done players ever. I have no idea what his ceiling is but short of a career altering injury he appears to be almost bust-proof.

Except that his team is 9-6 and third in their conference. Hard to believe a can't miss superstar can lead a college team to a better record.

 

[slinslin]

Except that his team is 9-6 and third in their conference. Hard to believe a can't miss superstar can lead a college team to a better record.

Kevin Durant was 25-10 with Texas and finished 3rd in the conference.

Tim Duncan lead his team to only 2nd place in the ACC in his senior year.

 

[Mainstreet]

It would be really nice to get that resolved, one way or another. I don't care how, really. If they get jail time, fine. Just get it over with.

Also resolving Markieff's situation may lead to further trades by the Suns.

I have come to the conclusion that the Suns intend to keep Hornacek as head coach for the rest of the season. I believe this is best for the Suns and Hornacek. The Suns have a team option to keep him for the 2016-17 season. Whatever decision they make about him, this is the right way to do it.

The Suns need to keep their promises made to players and coaches. They need to keep their word even if the promises were only insinuated. I’m not saying the Suns have not kept promises but from outward appearance, it can look that way. The Suns need to rebuild their reputation previously under the Jerry Colangelo era.

 

[Ronin]

Trade Keif, Knight and Goodwin

 

[JCSunsfan]

Also resolving Markieff's situation may lead to further trades by the Suns.

I have come to the conclusion that the Suns intend to keep Hornacek as head coach for the rest of the season. I believe this is best for the Suns and Hornacek. The Suns have a team option to keep him for the 2016-17 season. Whatever decision they make about him, this is the right way to do it.

The Suns need to keep their promises made to players and coaches. They need to keep their word even if the promises were only insinuated. I’m not saying the Suns have not kept promises but from outward appearance, it can look that way. The Suns need to rebuild their reputation previously under the Jerry Colangelo era.

I agree. There is nothing to be gained by firing him now. They are not trying to compete for that last playoff spot, no matter what they are saying.

If the legal issue can be resolved, even if there is jail time, it would open doors for a trade.

 

[overseascardfan]

I saw something interesting on Draft Express. They have us taking Kris Dunn at #4. If we pick after #2 then realistically Dunn would probably be the third best player in the draft. If you take him, do you deal both Bledsoe & Knight since they are not play making PG's in an attempt to get an all star caliber PF and give the reigns to Dunn and start him Day 1? From the interview McD did the other day it sounded like he may be wheeling and dealing his way to a complete rebuild saying major changes need to happen. I say do it, bottom out and start from square one. Hopefully it ends up Ben Simmons but I am intrigued enough over Dunn and dealing for a PF using Knight or Bledsoe in separate deals.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I saw something interesting on Draft Express. They have us taking Kris Dunn at #4. If we pick after #2 then realistically Dunn would probably be the third best player in the draft. If you take him, do you deal both Bledsoe & Knight since they are not play making PG's in an attempt to get an all star caliber PF and give the reigns to Dunn and start him Day 1? From the interview McD did the other day it sounded like he may be wheeling and dealing his way to a complete rebuild saying major changes need to happen. I say do it, bottom out and start from square one. Hopefully it ends up Ben Simmons but I am intrigued enough over Dunn and dealing for a PF using Knight or Bledsoe in separate deals.

I am not sure that this is the best idea, but all options have to be open. Why would Dunn be any more of sure thing that Bledsoe or Knight.

I would not mind dealing Bledsoe or Knight (probably Knight), because I believe Booker is the idea 2 for our future. He is a big guard that can shoot, handle the ball, and is an unselfish player. That SHOULD be a good match along side of Bledsoe. Knight would not be bad off the bench as a scoring, game changing guard.

I would love to have a pg that other players want to play with.

 

[Catlover]

Except that his team is 9-6 and third in their conference. Hard to believe a can't miss superstar can lead a college team to a better record.

It happens all the time. College is much more of a team game than the NBA and LSU isn't exactly loaded. But superstar? That remains to be seen. I don't think he can fail at the next level but I have no idea if he's going to just be a pretty good player or if he'll be the centerpiece on a dominant team. Either way, I don't see a team risking the chance he might become the next once in a generation kind of player.

 

[Phrazbit]

Kevin Durant was 25-10 with Texas and finished 3rd in the conference.

Tim Duncan lead his team to only 2nd place in the ACC in his senior year.

For Wake Forest to get second place in a conference with Duke, UNC and what was at the time a really good Maryland program is pretty impressive.

 

[hcsilla]

Hopefully it ends up Ben Simmons but I am intrigued enough over Dunn and dealing for a PF using Knight or Bledsoe in separate deals.

How about combining these 3 ideas?

#1: we get 1/1 and Simmons (the order is PHO, PHI, LAL)

#2: trade Knight for Lou Williams, Nick Young, #3 and draft Dunn at #3. (the Lakers get a starting G who might be a good fit to Russell while keeping all their cap space)

#3: trade Bledsoe for Calderon and Porzingis (I know it's unlikely but the Knicks dump a bad contract in Calderon so even after getting Bledsoe they would have enough cap space to sign Ryan Anderson or even Horford).

#4: re-sign Leuer, and sign some hardworker veterans like Mbah-a-Moute and/or Steve Blake or even keep Tucker.

Then you will have this team and all of a sudden you completed your rebuilding (at least collected the ingredients of it):

PG: Dunn/Calderon/Louis Williams
SG: Booker/Goodwin/Nick Young
SF: Simmons/Warren
PF: Porzingis/Simmons/Leuer
C: Len/Chandler

#5: with this young team take another journey in the purgatory and get a top pick in the next draft as well.

 

[hcsilla]

I am not sure that this is the best idea, but all options have to be open. Why would Dunn be any more of sure thing that Bledsoe or Knight.

Dunn is obviously no more of a sure thing than Bledsoe or Knight but he can turn out to be better than even Bledsoe.

That's the beauty of having a top pick.

Dunn is not lost at all as a scorer (definitely more advanced than Bledsoe was in college), while already an elite defender and a (very) good, 1st pass PG, and he is 6'4/220 lbs, so (much) bigger than Bledsoe.

 

[Phrazbit]

There is no chance that the Knicks trade Porzingis. At the moment it looks like the only thing that will prevent him from being a perennial All-Star is usual injury concerns of guy's with his measurements.

 

[slinslin]

Dunn is unlikely to be a first day starter so lets just say the Suns won the lottery and picked Simmons. Also I don't think Dunn is pass first at all, he plays a little like Knight. He seems to have a better handle and footwork though which I think is Knights biggest weakness.

Chandler/Len
Simmons/Leuer
Warren/Tucker
Knight/Booker
Bledsoe/Dunn

With the way Warren has improved his 3 point shot this year I think Warren/Simmons pairing could be excellent because Warren is good at leaking out on the break and Simmons is excellent at running the floor and finding people.

Also yeah there is no way the Knicks deal Porzingis for anything short of a franchise player at this point.

Also Porzingis is a center in my opinion ( Givony thinks the same ).