Zaven Collins re-signs for two more years

[Stout]

But that is not the question!

I wrote earlier What the market is for OLB in the NFL. Collins is better IMO and by pff than OLB signed in the same contract range.

You Might Think he is overpaid, But the NFL Doesn’t adjust to your feelings. Looking at the market base for a OLB it would suggest that he signed to a Fair contract. Perhaps even on the cheap side

Key there.

 

[Chopper0080]

The rest is unbiased. Showed enough to the team only, IMO.

It all depends on what value you put on 17 games started, 3.5 sacks, 3 PDs, 6 TFLs, 6 QB Hits, 12 pressures, 2 missed tackles, and 58% of defensive snaps. That is in year 1 of playing EDGE. With zero other players on the roster who have shown they can produce at this level, I have zero issue with two years, 7 mil per year. Do I want better? Absolutely. Is that really possible at this point? Not really. Did Monti crap the bed? 100%.

 

[gimpy]

I guess all that really matters is what the organization thinks.

 

[kerouac9]

I guess all that really matters is what the organization thinks.

Big if true

 

[Chopper0080]

I guess all that really matters is what the organization thinks.

Historically speaking...the Cardinals have had mostly incorrect thinking. This franchise has done nothing to warrant the benefit of doubt. (kind of a separate convo tho)

 

[Ronin]

Zaven Collins Reveals Why He Re-Signed With Cardinals

Arizona Cardinals OLB Zaven Collins' future in the desert was very much up for grabs moving into the 2024 season. It's not often where players see their

www.yardbarker.com

 

[Chopper0080]

Zaven Collins Reveals Why He Re-Signed With Cardinals

Arizona Cardinals OLB Zaven Collins' future in the desert was very much up for grabs moving into the 2024 season. It's not often where players see their

www.yardbarker.com

Happy for Collins. Good for him. He has obviously bought in. My guess is that Budda probably mirrors this mindset which is why he didn't hold out this year.

 

[BulldogCard]

I say go after Reddick. I know they want their chips pushed in at the right time. This is the time. Ever notice other good players start showing up after you get one. Advertising that we're serious, trying to win.

 

[Stout]

I guess all that really matters is what the organization thinks.

True. The rest of it is just us reacting.

 

[Chopper0080]

I say go after Reddick. I know they want their chips pushed in at the right time. This is the time. Ever notice other good players start showing up after you get one. Advertising that we're serious, trying to win.

I don't know how much leverage Reddick actually has which hurts AZ's ability to acquire him. He certainly will want to hit FA so I don't believe he will hold out the entire year. The Jets sent a 3rd round pick to the Eagles so I imagine they don't want to throw that away. You have to be willing to give Reddick a deal if you trade for him and he is 30. Without knowing what he is asking for, it is tough to make this deal.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Big if true

Historically speaking...the Cardinals have had mostly incorrect thinking. This franchise has done nothing to warrant the benefit of doubt. (kind of a separate convo tho)

There is one thing that this FO has had plenty of

Dysfunction

 

[FB94]

No to Reddick and overpaying him. Even though the pass rushing on this team is at best average even with BJO, I am fine signing a vet for this year, and shore up edge rusher in the draft with a stud in round one.

 

[QuebecCard]

You’re tellling me stout has typed “fire monti?”

Firing offense, should be fired blah, blah, blah.

 

[CardNots]

No to Reddick and overpaying him. Even though the pass rushing on this team is at best average even with BJO, I am fine signing a vet for this year, and shore up edge rusher in the draft with a stud in round one.

As strong as the upcoming draft is for edge players I could see Monti pick two in the first 4 picks.

Especially if he’s happy with the CB group I could see Edge, DL, LB, Edge.

 

[SECTION 11]

Is there really angst about signing him for two years at $7m? How is this possibly a bad thing?

 

[Chopper0080]

No to Reddick and overpaying him. Even though the pass rushing on this team is at best average even with BJO, I am fine signing a vet for this year, and shore up edge rusher in the draft with a stud in round one.

What is overpaying? Danielle Hunter is about the same age and just got 2 years, 49 mil. If I could get Reddick for 2 years, 45 mil and it cost me a 6th round pick...let's go. If he wants a 4 year deal...or the Jets want their 3rd rounder back...it's a no for me.

 

[GatorAZ]

What is overpaying? Danielle Hunter is about the same age and just got 2 years, 49 mil. If I could get Reddick for 2 years, 45 mil and it cost me a 6th round pick...let's go. If he wants a 4 year deal...or the Jets want their 3rd rounder back...it's a no for me.

They screwed up not paying a FA edge rusher so now they have to overpay to right their wrong. If Reddick costs a 3rd (plus 3/$70 as a baseline) I say do it. Get out of it after two years and it doesn’t affect core players that need to be paid down the road. Losing a third would sting but not as much as watching opposing QB’s this year having all day to throw would sting. That will get old by week 4 and we’ll all be complaining.

 

[Stout]

No to Reddick and overpaying him. Even though the pass rushing on this team is at best average even with BJO, I am fine signing a vet for this year, and shore up edge rusher in the draft with a stud in round one.

It isn't.

 

[FB94]

As strong as the upcoming draft is for edge players I could see Monti pick two in the first 4 picks.

Especially if he’s happy with the CB group I could see Edge, DL, LB, Edge.

I agree, we could really set the edge position for next several years with a pair of young bookend pass rushers

 

[Stout]

I agree, we could really set the edge position for next several years with a pair of young bookend pass rushers

3 offseasons into Monti's tenure? Really, so soon?

Sarcasm isn't directed at you, sorry

 

[kerouac9]

I agree, we could really set the edge position for next several years with a pair of young bookend pass rushers

Only if the picks work out. Monti’s first go round at drafting an edge isn’t looking too rosy.

 

[Solar7]

Uh Reddick was literally a passrusher in college (believe he had double digit sacks his last year in college). He was moved by idiots to ILB.

As I replied to DVontel, I understand what he played in college. In the NFL, he had not really shown anything in terms of pass rush. That's been my only argument.

 

[cardncubfan]

What is overpaying? Danielle Hunter is about the same age and just got 2 years, 49 mil. If I could get Reddick for 2 years, 45 mil and it cost me a 6th round pick...let's go. If he wants a 4 year deal...or the Jets want their 3rd rounder back...it's a no for me.

Wha? You'd pay Reddick $22.5 mil per year? Ludicrous.

 

[GatorAZ]

Wha? You'd pay Reddick $22.5 mil per year? Ludicrous.

Who else needs to be paid this year and next?

 

[Shane]

Wha? You'd pay Reddick $22.5 mil per year? Ludicrous.

Absolutely he’s worth every penny based off his production he’s a beast