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More stats but we all know that there is context in when a ball is dropped and how it kills momentum.
Kyler Murray Debate Thread
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BirdGangThing
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Now that is funny
Call me crazy… But someone who played 8 games last season shouldn’t be eligible for come back player of the year this season? Makes little sense to me but whatever.
I don’t really like the direction the award has gone, it’s now just given to someone who missed most the year with injury and returned the following year with a good season.
I like it better when a guy has a bad year or is benched for performance then comes back strong the following season. It’s almost like they need 2 awards and split the category.
602 Native
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They are doing this so Flaco doesn't have a shot at it.
Dude could be the comeback player every year. Hes about to take the Colts to the playoffs.
This pic is from back in the day.....
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OP
OP
Hamlin is a decent bet there. Sentimental favorite.
He shouldn’t be eligible either in my opinion he came back last year and played in five games post cardiac incident. Even only playing in five games he would’ve been a perfect candidate last season.
OP
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I agree with all of that but the fact that he is eligible makes it really likely he wins.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Everyone is eligible.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
Am I eligible kerouac9?
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Odds are very long. But I'd take your bet.
OP
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He's not going to be discounted for playing 8 games.
kerouac9
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By whom? I’m sure some voters will.
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Dan and I talk often. 
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Krangodnzr
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According to QBR he is..Dan and I talk often.
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What's funny is that Murray has had a few stinkers this year, but overall it's probably his best season from an efficiency standpoint.
Murray played pretty doggone good against Miami overall. I was pretty confident they were going to win when they got the ball back and Murray made two big time throws on that drive.
WisconsinCard
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Exactly I voted to move on, but assumed it would be two years from now I still am, I am not sold yet. My thoughts were he's never going to win a Superbowl . He's just too inconsistent.
I hope beyond hope he proves me wrong and becomes a HOFer with a bunch of Superbowl wins under his belt. But color me skeptical.
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Quite a standard you got here.
602 Native
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7 winning seasons in almost 40yrs of which one K1 is the reason for and the standard is he better win us a Super Bowl otherwise we need to replace him.
Winning a Super Bowl is great but let’s just focus on going to the playoffs multiple years in a row first. We are far from being a competent franchise at the moment.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
He's always been Drew Brees inside a decent pocket and with competent receivers Krang. You know that man, come on.
The kid can spin it. Straight up.
WisconsinCard
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Thank you
WisconsinCard
Herfin BIg Time
Let's focus on winning a meaningful game first. Backing into the playoffs and then laying an egg in the playoff was awesome huh? You guys come at people for having a different opinion. I respect everyone's opinion on Kyler but I don't believe he's a going to be great
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He’s winning meaningful games this season and had some elite games while doing it. We are .500 with a mid team and a bunch of young players.
No one is coming for you this is a debate thread. Differing opinions are fine but no one has to agree with it.
K1 is already great compared to every QB the Cards ever drafted. You can say that isn’t a great list but I would point right back to what K1 has accomplished in the face of a terrible franchise.
Let’s not turn ourselves into the Browns who got rid of a good QB thinking it was his fault they weren’t winning. Then the dude goes to another team and has success.
We finally got a couple good weapons in the passing game. Both of which have missed time this season and yet we are having a good season at the top of the division.
