Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[ASUCHRIS]

Wouldn't the cap hit also be very large restricting any possible FA signings?

LOL, when do the Cards do anything in FA, and who the hell wants to come here?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Wouldn't the cap hit also be very large restricting any possible FA signings?

Because this team has a track record of making big FA signings.

And no. We’re supposed to have something like eleventy billion dollars in cap room next year. At least that’s what we were told by fans here defending why we did Jack squat in FA last year for the second year in a row under Monti.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He cannot function when he isn't totally healthy.

When fully healthy, he's elite. But he regresses to a bottom 10... maybe bottom 5 starter if he is dealing with anything that restricts his mobility, and in a 17 game season, keeping him untouched is essentially impossible.

Overall, they've been better than I thought they'd be. The surge in early autumn gave me some hope, but it all died after Kyler got hobbled in Seattle.

I can give him an "attaboy" for playing banged up, but if he is terrified of taking a hit then he shouldn't be out there, he shouldn't be in the sport.

Now we’re making up phantom injuries for Kyler? Okay… what were the phantom injuries he was dealing with when he looked beyond pedestrian to flat out bad at times during the beginning of the season when we were 2-4?

 

[kerouac9]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

Fields. I've seen enough of Kyler.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

Gimme Fields at that price... Which theoretically would allow us to be bigger spenders in other areas of need, while bridging us to a point where we can take yet ANOTHER shot at locating our franchise QB in the draft!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

Kyler. As much as I want to move on, he’s at least a league average QB.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Kyler. As much as I want to move on, he’s at least a league average QB.

Fields this season: 4-2 record, completed 65.8% of his passes for 1,106 yards, five touchdowns and one interception. He's added 274 yards and five touchdowns on the ground.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

If we’re really going to keep trying to be a ground and pound offense, get the cheap ground and pound QB who can run and make the occasional big throw while having huge cap space… that we probably wouldn’t spend anyway.

 

[DVontel]

Fields this season: 4-2 record, completed 65.8% of his passes for 1,106 yards, five touchdowns and one interception. He's added 274 yards and five touchdowns on the ground.

Then why did he get benched?

 

[DVontel]

Would you rather have Kyler on his current deal or Justin Fields at 2 years, $20 million?

Neither. Fields is even more flawed than Kyler as a passer.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Then why did he get benched?

Russell Wilson recovered from his calf injury. Coach's decision. Russ is 4-1 since taking over (with stats mirroring Fields').

 

[DVontel]

Russell Wilson recovered from his calf injury. Coach's decision. Russ is 4-1 since taking over (with stats mirroring Fields').

Or Tomlin seen something on film that suggested Fields was leaving throws on the field to be made.

Anyways, this debate is pointless.

Monti needs to move on from Kyler.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Or Tomlin seen something on film that suggested Fields was leaving throws on the field to be made.

Anyways, this debate is pointless.

Monti needs to move from on Kyler.

There’s no doubt that Fields doesn’t leave throws on the field. But so does Kyler and at least Fields gets the most out of his legs and would be cheaper. It’s not ideal, but he’d sadly be one of the better band-aids available while we try to find a QBOTF… again.

 

[Stout]

Agree. But then again we likely wouldn’t have counted darnold as one of those options last offseason. So what other highly touted retread might we bring in next year to replace him if he stinks? I’m not thinking tune is anything but a spot holder.

Or do you just sign Darnold?

 

[Stout]

Then why did he get benched?

I can answer this one: Because Tomlin gave his word to Russ that he was the starter and believed in him from jump. As soon as he was 100 percent healthy, Tomlin made the call. A lot of Pittsburgh sports radio folks didn't like the move at all because Fields was doing so well. Now, Russ has proven out for the Stillers, but it doesn't lessen how well Fields was doing. Nobody saw it as a benching for cause, if you will.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Or do you just sign Darnold?

Man… that’s dicey. He’s probably gonna command a decent chunk, multi-year salary for a one year wonder.

I’d rather go Fields band-aid for a lot cheaper while spending the rest of our FA dollars on D and a speedster while searching for the QB/LTOFTFs.

 

[DeAnna]

Posted this on another thread, but actually belongs here ...

What is Wrong With Kyler Murray?

 

[kerouac9]

Neither. Fields is even more flawed than Kyler as a passer.

Yeah but at least you have more resources to surround him with a Vikings-quality supporting cast. If you don’t have a QB who will elevate the players around him, might as well pay as little as possible for him.

Or do you just sign Darnold?

Darold is a contract level above what I’d be willing to pay. I think he’ll get Mayfield money and underperform it.

 

[DaHilg]

There’s no doubt that Fields doesn’t leave throws on the field. But so does Kyler and at least Fields gets the most out of his legs and would be cheaper. It’s not ideal, but he’d sadly be one of the better band-aids available while we try to find a QBOTF… again.

Fields is actually a better fit for this offense. This offense doesn’t require a QB that is a passer to WRs. Just someone that can run and hit the TE

 

[Cheesebeef]

Fields is actually a better fit for this offense. This offense doesn’t require a QB that is a passer to WRs. Just someone that can run and hit the TE

This offense came out this week requiring the QB to pass to WRs and the QB was an abomination.

Maybe, just maybe we’re running the offense we are because we don’t have a QB that’s a passer to WRs. The reality is we haven’t had that kinda QB since October 2021, when Kyler played in a very QB friendly system that a rookie has picked up well enough this season to take what everyone believed would be a terrible Washington team to the playoffs.

 

[DVontel]

I just wish one day we’ll draft a Mahomes/Allen/Jackson/Herbert/Burrow level QB.

Guys like Hurts, Goff, Baker, Tua, Purdy, are cool, but they’re all flawed.

Ugh.

 

[BirdGangThing]

josh freakin dobbs would've done better yesterday - even if he threw two picks he would've utilized his legs

 

[DVontel]

Fields is actually a better fit for this offense. This offense doesn’t require a QB that is a passer to WRs. Just someone that can run and hit the TE

No he’s not man, lol.

Every offense requires a QB that consistently & accurately passes the ball to their WRs. If you’re offense isn’t stacked personnel-wise, then you’re in really deep shhhhh…

This isn’t 1951.

 

[602 Native]

Fields. I've seen enough of Kyler.

Oh Cardinals fans.

You haven't watched Fields play obviously.