Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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LOL

DA has never achieved anything on the NBA level. Not an award, all star game, or leading a team.
He was one of the best players on a team that made it to the finals. That's far more than Kyler has ever accomplished.
 

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If we’re gonna compare Ayton and Kyler, Kyler currently looks like 2023 playoff Ayton, where he’s making a minimal impact on offense and making way too many careless mistakes.

They highlighted on the post game radio show how Kyler consistently struggles in December. Well, that’s when we need our $50 mil QB to step up. 3 TDs and 5 (should be 6) INTs since the bye.

Year six, friends.
 

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If we’re gonna compare Ayton and Kyler, Kyler currently looks like 2023 playoff Ayton, where he’s making a minimal impact on offense and making way too many careless mistakes.

They highlighted on the post game radio show how Kyler consistently struggles in December. Well, that’s when we need our $50 mil QB to step up. 3 TDs and 5 (should be 6) INTs since the bye.

Year six, friends.
We won yesterday.

In December
In a game that mattered
Carry On
 

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Nobody here is a fan of DA. We're just objective enough to know that DA has shown out in the playoffs, and Kyler literally shat himself in his one appearance in 6 full seasons.
Totally different sports and DA has done nothing in the NBA
 

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We won yesterday.

In December
In a game that mattered
Carry On
Before the game everyone predicted we would win because the pressure is now off. We controlled our own destiny coming off of our bye. Three straight losses mean we have to win out and get a lot of help. These wins are meaningless unless many other games go our way. Beating a 3-win team is nothing spectacular. We have beaten crappy teams all year long. Only two wins are solid wins - beating the Rams and the Chargers - teams with winning records.
 

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Our dink and dunk offense is the reason for that.

Talk to our terrible OC with the 1940s Wing T offense and our WRs that can’t get separation.

At this point might as well run 3 TE sets every down.
Even you admitted that K1 is a choke artist and now it's like you forgot and are right back to driving the K1 train.

Does that train run an inconsistent schedule?
 

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Even you admitted that K1 is a choke artist and now it's like you forgot and are right back to driving the K1 train.

Does that train run an inconsistent schedule?
Pretty much as I predicted when I said Kyler likely throws for 240 and 1 TD in a win against a terrible team and the Kyler Clan all hop back on the bandwagon.

Only he didn’t even hit those numbers.

He’s was fine yesterday and we won with the pressure off against one of the dregs of the league. He gets another chance next week with a little more juice on the line with the Seahawks loss. I think he’ll have a similar game against another terrible team and then we’ll be right back where we were prior to the 3 game losing streak, facing a huge game against a good opponent.

He wins and plays well there, he’ll buy himself from rope, but yesterday was what nothing we haven’t seen before… an okay game by an okay QB against a terrible team.
 

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for those who had the ball-dacity to compare josh allen to kyler murray

allen simply refused to lose yesterday - refused to turn the ball over in a tight important crucial game - he refused to stay in the pocket and ran his ass off instead of constantly checking down under pressure - look at the 5/5 completions with his top receiver - look at the 4 completions for 28 yards or more including one for 68 yards

now keep in mind the bills only won by 6 points - final score was 48-42

and again - this was a crucial game effecting playoff seating - please stop comparing kyler murray to josh allen - i beg you

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for those who had the ball-dacity to compare josh allen to kyler murray

allen simply refused to lose yesterday - refused to turn the ball over in a tight important crucial game - he refused to stay in the pocket and ran his ass off instead of constantly checking down under pressure - look at the 5/5 completions with his top receiver - look at the 4 completions for 28 yards or more including one for 68 yards

now keep in mind the bills only won by 6 points - final score was 48-42

and again - this was a crucial game effecting playoff seating - please stop comparing kyler murray to josh allen - i beg you

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Allen should really be spelled "Alien". Murray is nowhere near his level.
 

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Allen should really be spelled "Alien". Murray is nowhere near his level.
The K1 brigade doesn't grasp the concept that great/elite QBs elevate their teammates and makes their coaches look brilliant. They make excuses will that team has better owners, coaches, snd better schemes.

I heard this when they were comparing Allen and Murray. Well Allen's rookie year the team went 6-10. Allen went to school and elevated that team to where they are now? Unless you're an avid football fan you probably can't name their receiving corp before they got an old Cooper.

People that call a certain coach the GOAT got fired more than once. He couldn't win In Cleveland, and then found Brady and became the goat.

I'll use one one my least favorite QBs as an example. Double Aaron made his receivers better. All of them left for greener pastures and they all sucked. Including Adams, jordie Nelson, and (name escapes me) took a big contract with the Viking.
 

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The DA comparison people don't realize they are on the same island as the Allen comparison people.
No, they're really not. Both DA and Kyler are middling players who won't lead teams anywhere. If I ever made the laugh out loud comparison of Kyler to Allen, I'm not sure I'd be bringing it up again, but you do you.
 

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Does anyone else think Kylers nursing a leg injury? I remember he came off limping a few weeks ago and I think it's either nagging him or it's in his head. His wheels don't look the same recently, and he's giving up runs instead of bursting. Something looks different pre and post bye week.
 

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Does anyone else think Kylers nursing a leg injury? I remember he came off limping a few weeks ago and I think it's either nagging him or it's in his head. His wheels don't look the same recently, and he's giving up runs instead of bursting. Something looks different pre and post bye week.

That last sentence sums up the biggest problem with Kyler… something always looks different after the bye week.
 

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Does anyone else think Kylers nursing a leg injury? I remember he came off limping a few weeks ago and I think it's either nagging him or it's in his head. His wheels don't look the same recently, and he's giving up runs instead of bursting. Something looks different pre and post bye week.
Same ol same ol...if everything isn't absolutely perfect, he just doesn't look that good.
 
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