Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[slanidrac16]

Welp.... We are one win from another big prime time game in LA against the Rams.

What are the odds that he blows it?
O/U on 2 INT's?
O/U on 35 rushing yards?
O/U on 2.5 total TD's?

One might consider this a big, must win game. That’s scary.

 

[SoonerLou]

Again I said there's a good chance Kyler has a good 4 game stretch cause there's no elite DCs.

Rams are playing well, but that young defense will make mistakes against an athlete like Kyler.

I'm on record (I may be wrong..we'll see). The 49ers game will be tougher for our offense than the Rams.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Welp.... We are one win from another big prime time game in LA against the Rams.

What are the odds that he blows it?
O/U on 2 INT's?
O/U on 35 rushing yards?
O/U on 2.5 total TD's?

I go under on all three.

 

[Stout]

One might consider this a big, must win game. That’s scary.

The Carolina game isn't a "big" game. It's a "win if you want to have even the slimmest hopes" game, but not a clincher or a much-anticipated game.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

The Carolina game isn't a "big" game. It's a "win if you want to have even the slimmest hopes" game, but not a clincher or a much-anticipated game.

I think this is fair.

It is a Dec game with a little bit of pressure though, so I think it will be a baby step in the right direction if Kyler can play well on Sunday.

I mean it's got training wheels on it for gods sake. CAR is like the worst rushing defense in the league. Both K1 and the offense are in an excellent position to succeed.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I think this is fair.

It is a Dec game with a little bit of pressure though, so I think it will be a baby step in the right direction if Kyler can play well on Sunday.

I mean it's got training wheels on it for gods sake. CAR is like the worst rushing defense in the league. Both K1 and the offense are in an excellent position to succeed.

Zero pressure at all.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think this is fair.

It is a Dec game with a little bit of pressure though, so I think it will be a baby step in the right direction if Kyler can play well on Sunday.

I mean it's got training wheels on it for gods sake. CAR is like the worst rushing defense in the league. Both K1 and the offense are in an excellent position to succeed.

It’s kind of a carbon copy of last week. Bad team. Made to be beat. Weaknesses are our strengths. No one is talking about us as a playoff contender. If we lose this we are just SOC.

 

[Chopper0080]

It’s kind of a carbon copy of last week. Bad team. Made to be beat. Weaknesses are our strengths. No one is talking about us as a playoff contender. If we lose this we are just SOC.

Agreed. The thing this team has shown is the ability to beat bad teams. I expect that to continue.

 

[Stout]

I think this is fair.

It is a Dec game with a little bit of pressure though, so I think it will be a baby step in the right direction if Kyler can play well on Sunday.

I mean it's got training wheels on it for gods sake. CAR is like the worst rushing defense in the league. Both K1 and the offense are in an excellent position to succeed.

More than fair!

 

[Chopper0080]

So I have been thinking about the game broadcast where the announcers were talking about Trey McBride and him saying that he doesn't run routes correctly and that is what enables him to work so well with Kyler.

It makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Kyler is not a timing and rhythm thrower. He is rarely hitting a receiver out of their break unless it is a first read. We also know that Kyler likes to see a player open. He looks for space. If he i wanting his receivers to find space more than run precise routes, it explains why he struggles to connect with new WRs. Most Wrs are taught to be as precise as possible with their routes. This kinda goes against that.

 

[Chopper0080]

For clarity sake. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is very similar to how Mahomes and Kelce interact. (using them for the comparable style and not quality of players)

 

[football karma]

The Carolina game isn't a "big" game. It's a "win if you want to have even the slimmest hopes" game, but not a clincher or a much-anticipated game.

in the ongoing development of the culture of this team -- the game is a challenge

Carolina is a bad team, but:

its at Carolina, and they have been playing better, and very well could have beat any of the three good teams played in the three weeks prior to last week

and oh-by the way: your giant division game the week after has just been flexed to prime time.

hard to believe the Cards could have a trap game, but i think its a trap game

 

[602 Native]

So the goal posts have been moved from he never wins meaningful games in December to the game isn’t meaningful enough.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

So the goal posts have been moved from he never wins meaningful games in December to the game isn’t meaningful enough.

You're seriously going to argue that beating a 3-11 team is a meaningful win? The bar...it's underground at this point.

 

[unseenaz]

So the goal posts have been moved from he never wins meaningful games in December to the game isn’t meaningful enough.

The meaningful games when the season was on the line were either of the Seahawks games

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The meaningful games when the season was on the line were either of the Seahawks games

Win one of the those games, and we're in the drivers seat for the division. He lost both, and was soundly outplayed by the definition of mediocrity, Geno Smith.

He'll never drop the label of big game choker if he never wins an important game.