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  1. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    *there’s obviously shortcomings of the top two draft list above. The Simmons draft felt like a strictly two player draft with garbage behind which is why I did it, but for reference the Ball draft felt like a 4 or 5 player draft with 1 each for ball, jackson, Tatum, Fultz and Fox, this one is...
  2. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    I should clarify my comments: 1. I don’t mean comparing the current Ball to Ayton, I mean considering how pumped I was on Ball at the time of the draft; I’m less pumped on big guys in general these days although ayton is the real deal, and given the chance I’d probably select him #1 this year...
  3. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    I'm coming to the conclusion this draft isn't as good as everyone's making it out to be. From the last two drafts + this one, i would take / have taken Simmons over everyone and Ball over everyone else. Maybe it's deep in high quality players but only average at superstar quality. Tier 1 Ayton...
  4. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    Magic Johnson is the closest comparison - a SF sized player with distribution skills that means the ball's in his hands. No he's not as good as Magic but that's your comparison.
  5. 3rdside

    The 2017-2018 Around the NBA thread

    http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/22467698/how-kinston-north-carolina-became-greatest-producer-nba-talent-america The opening anecdote - I knew USA came close to having a Chernobyl moment, I just didn’t realise it was that close ... damn. And a basketball story to follow. Sent from...
  6. 3rdside

    Pick Watch 2018

    It’s the last season ever of tanking being rewarded - send in knight on one leg if you have to, bring in a g-leaguer and let him shoot 1-28 every game...whatever, Just tank the sh*t out of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    Agreed on Bagley, part of it is he can’t shoot - his style when he shoots free throws suggests he has little idea what he’s doing - and not that he’s shoots that many but I reckon he’ll struggle with nba length three’s negating this ‘strength’ of his. Pass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    MVP of the rising stars challenge game no less - go bogi https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/how-bogdan-bogdanovic-shot-his-way-to-the-top-of-rising-stars-challenge/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    What makes you say that? Doncic is bigger, throws more assists, is a better prospect and has better stats than bogdanovic did at a younger age..Am I’m missing something? https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/bogdan-bogdanovic-1.html...
  10. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    From mcd’s point of view i vaguely remember he was frustrated with the guy for delaying coming to the USA and then wanting a non rookie contract from the start, which he got (3 yrs / $36m), but I also remember thinking we would definitely be giving up a talent as well. On balance I was good with...
  11. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    He’s a beast! And we had Booker anyway so he was expendable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    This is really interesting - for the fact that McD traded away a seriously good player in Bogdan, for Marquese Chriss...liked it at the time but we're definitely losing out in this trade.
  13. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    I don't trust NBADraft.net with anything - they kept comparing Josh Jackson to Kawhi Leonard amongst other things (this is an unforgivable acknowledgement of incompetence imo) and had Thon Maker as a 2nd rounder (although draftexrpress did the same thing..). You're better off watching videos...
  14. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    Missed this but it sounds like we're on the same page although I'd definitely take Simmonds over Doncic; athleticism and height aren't the be all and end all but you'd obviously rather have them than not. And I was still growing til I was 21 so yeah, it's not unlikely.
  15. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    Every now and then, the urban legend of a destined-to-be-great footballer rises through the ranks - it happened with Messi, Giggs, Lampard and Iniesta... I really get the same feeling about this guy. And the stats back it up - 6’8” / 18yo / best in the league already / assists .....oh man the...
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    Athleticism never won any sportsman anything, (although unnatural physical attributes did - see usain bolt, shaquille o’neal, Michael Phelps) as ultimately it comes down to a battle of wills. (Except, of course, in the Suns’ case when it came down to GD officials who decided stoudemire and...
  17. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    You’re comparing dunleavy and Miller to Doncic? I hated when slinslin did it but .... lol. Most recent non-professional year final year stats: Dunleavy - 17, 6 and 2 with 2pt %.596 and 3pt -% of .378% Miller - 14, 6 and 2.5 with 2pt % of .559 offsetting 3pt % of .338%. Doncic - 16, 5 and...
  18. 3rdside

    How good is Booker?

    That’s the trade I’ve been thinking of - Insta-team albeit with rookies. Nice work. Pick Doncic, trade up in the draft and grab bamba. We’d be super young but sorted (in theory) at all positions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    There’s a third option - trade all our picks and players for an instant team (‘swing a Boston’) which I don’t think I’m opposed to either but its effectiveness depends on who’s actually available this summer and I don’t think many quality free agents are. So assuming it’s a choice between ayton...
  20. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    He’s a lock. Only problem is we can’t accommodate him in current format so I’ve been thinking up all sorts of trades that include warren, who’s a very strong trading chip with his output / contract ratio, along with our other assets. Call me crazy but I don’t love ayton and I can’t see the...
  21. 3rdside

    2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

    18 years old and already being talked about as the best player in the world's second strongest league, 6'8", can shoot and distribute... oh yeah, he's overrated. People seem to focus on his slow foot speed like that's the be all and end all while ignoring things like speed of thought, which is...
  22. 3rdside

    How good is Booker?

    He’s averaging 10, 7 and 7 in his rookie year Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  23. 3rdside

    Suns @ Warriors game thread 2-12-18

    You need to start thinking about players in terms of ‘eye of the tiger’ level players. Plenty of guys throw up 25pts but are they going to will their team to victory? Our suspicion is that Booker is eye of the tiger, and they don’t come around every draft. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  24. 3rdside

    Suns trade for Elfrid Payton

    *and also adds to the schizophrenia I feel about McD ... he gets so much wrong but if Payton and bender pan out, on top of warren and Booker he’s done a fair bit outstandingly right also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  25. 3rdside

    Suns trade for Elfrid Payton

    Hell of a debut - he looks and sounds like a legit pass first guard - and with knight coming back it raises the question of whether we’re stocked at PG all of a sudden...meaning our draft is for a big man and big man only. I love Doncic but if the above holds, even I can’t see how we’d fit him...

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