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Nothing to see here move along.

They're stinkin it up against the 2 best teams in the NL on the road. Maybe they can steal one tomorrow. They should do better in DC.
 

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I knew this road trip was going to be brutal, I predicted .500 AT BEST.

What I didn't know was that the Giants were going to choke and completely let us off the hook for it. :)

All is still well in Dbacks land, lets get through this stretch, lick our wounds and get back to business.
 

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During Sunday's game vs. the Braves, Eduardo Parra got a tremendous jump at 1B, but Kelly Johnson hit a line drive right to the SS who was moving over to cover 2B on the steal.

Daron Sutton called it bad luck.

If it was a straight steal and Johnson (back at the top of the batting order) lined it directly to the spot where the SS was headed, you might call it bad luck, or perhaps bad execution by not reacting to the runner going.

But if it was indeed a hit & run play, it was horrible execution.

I guess we'll never know which it was. That's one of my problems with Kelly Johnson. Trying to hit every pitch into the air does not help the team and does not help his .210 batting average (fifty points below his lifetime average).

I'm not singling him out. Hmmm, that's ironic. If he were willing to try for a "single" sometimes, he'd help the team a lot more.

To be fair, it is the credo of the Diamondbacks. Live by the ball in the air, die by the ball in the air. That's the coaching staff, as good as they are otherwise. It is American League coaching in the National League.
 

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During Sunday's game vs. the Braves, Eduardo Parra got a tremendous jump at 1B, but Kelly Johnson hit a line drive right to the SS who was moving over to cover 2B on the steal.

Daron Sutton called it bad luck.

If it was a straight steal and Johnson (back at the top of the batting order) lined it directly to the spot where the SS was headed, you might call it bad luck, or perhaps bad execution by not reacting to the runner going.

But if it was indeed a hit & run play, it was horrible execution.

I guess we'll never know which it was. That's one of my problems with Kelly Johnson. Trying to hit every pitch into the air does not help the team and does not help his .210 batting average (fifty points below his lifetime average).

I'm not singling him out. Hmmm, that's ironic. If he were willing to try for a "single" sometimes, he'd help the team a lot more.

To be fair, it is the credo of the Diamondbacks. Live by the ball in the air, die by the ball in the air. That's the coaching staff, as good as they are otherwise. It is American League coaching in the National League.

I will not comment on Kelly Johnson for a while because I dont have anything nice to say.

This game is beyond frustrating.
 

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I will not comment on Kelly Johnson for a while because I dont have anything nice to say.

This game is beyond frustrating.
Then, on his next at-bat, Johnson is an easy out at the plate on a Chris Young popup just behind the infield.

Perhaps this one play summarizes the inconsistency of the D'backs.

Johnson, promoted to leadoff, tries to score on a popup.

Young, promoted to 3rd in the batting order, hits another popup with a runner in scoring position.

Moving your .211 and .234 hitters into two of the top three spots in the batting order? I just don't get it. Both Johnson and Young should be in the Minors working on their fundamentals.
 

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Well what would you do?? The whole team isn't hitting. I will give Gibson credit for trying different things to get these guys going.

So you send 2 of your starters down, what if they don't go, do you release them??? Who would you put in their place??
 

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My problem with the trip so far is the poor discipline they are showing at the plate.
 

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During Sunday's game vs. the Braves, Eduardo Parra got a tremendous jump at 1B, but Kelly Johnson hit a line drive right to the SS who was moving over to cover 2B on the steal.

Daron Sutton called it bad luck.

If it was a straight steal and Johnson (back at the top of the batting order) lined it directly to the spot where the SS was headed, you might call it bad luck, or perhaps bad execution by not reacting to the runner going.

But if it was indeed a hit & run play, it was horrible execution.

I guess we'll never know which it was. That's one of my problems with Kelly Johnson. Trying to hit every pitch into the air does not help the team and does not help his .210 batting average (fifty points below his lifetime average).

I'm not singling him out. Hmmm, that's ironic. If he were willing to try for a "single" sometimes, he'd help the team a lot more.

To be fair, it is the credo of the Diamondbacks. Live by the ball in the air, die by the ball in the air. That's the coaching staff, as good as they are otherwise. It is American League coaching in the National League.

If that was their credo you would think that they could hit a fly ball to the outfield!!!!
 

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If that was their credo you would think that they could hit a fly ball to the outfield!!!!
That's the point. Even what they try to do when they shouldn't is not getting done when they should.

The sacrifice fly is the easiest play in baseball. A routine fly ball to the outfield. Our first two at-bats in the ninth were fly balls to the outfield, pretty close to the warning track. When they needed baserunners.

But with a runner on third and less than two outs in the previous inning -- down by one run -- we couldn't hit that routine fly ball.

They call our coaching staff an all-star staff, from when they were players. But I'm wondering why the D'backs are so weak in fundamentals.

The worst team in Major League baseball is still better than the Minor Leagues or any semi-pro team. Can't we expect our home team to have the basics down by now?

As Bert said, it is beyond frustrating.
 

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0-6 with RISP? Pathetic

Gibby needs to get these clowns focused. 35 more games to go and we only have 1.5 game advantage. Fortunately, 29 of those 35 are against teams with losing records
 

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That's the point. Even what they try to do when they shouldn't is not getting done when they should.

The sacrifice fly is the easiest play in baseball. A routine fly ball to the outfield. Our first two at-bats in the ninth were fly balls to the outfield, pretty close to the warning track. When they needed baserunners.

But with a runner on third and less than two outs in the previous inning -- down by one run -- we couldn't hit that routine fly ball.

They call our coaching staff an all-star staff, from when they were players. But I'm wondering why the D'backs are so weak in fundamentals.

The worst team in Major League baseball is still better than the Minor Leagues or any semi-pro team. Can't we expect our home team to have the basics down by now?

As Bert said, it is beyond frustrating.

I think you're over-simplifying things.

One, a sacrifice fly is not "the easiest play in baseball". It's a fly ball that has to be hit fairly deep - not exactly an easy thing to do, especially when the pitcher knows you're trying to do it.

Two, did you miss the part about the Braves changing pitchers? The D-backs hit two fly balls in the 8th inning with no one on against Johnny Venters. They needed to hit the fly ball against Tim Hudson -- one of the best ground ball pitchers in baseball -- and then against Craig Kimbrel, a guy who is not easy to hit at all.

Three, the D-backs aren't any weaker in fundamentals than any other team. Did you notice that the Braves also had a runner on third and less than two outs (6th inning)? Did they score there?
 

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I think you're over-simplifying things.

One, a sacrifice fly is not "the easiest play in baseball". It's a fly ball that has to be hit fairly deep - not exactly an easy thing to do, especially when the pitcher knows you're trying to do it.

Two, did you miss the part about the Braves changing pitchers? The D-backs hit two fly balls in the 8th inning with no one on against Johnny Venters. They needed to hit the fly ball against Tim Hudson -- one of the best ground ball pitchers in baseball -- and then against Craig Kimbrel, a guy who is not easy to hit at all.

Three, the D-backs aren't any weaker in fundamentals than any other team. Did you notice that the Braves also had a runner on third and less than two outs (6th inning)? Did they score there?
You've done a good job of justifying failure. I hope D'backs management isn't doing the same.
 

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ok gj CY, loaded em up for Goldy with 2 outs.

CMON GOLDSCHMIDT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I really hope we are not seeing 2008 all over again.
 

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Why is Cowgill playing? This guy has proved he is not a major league player.
 
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