2011 Draft Thread

[Mainstreet]

Lol no there's at least 5 PFs that will go higher than Biyombo.

I like him but I doubt we need to trade up to get him. Best case scenario would be to trade Nash for a mid 1st and something else then draft Burks with our #13 pick and get Biyombo with the mid 1st rd pick.

Under your scenario I'm not sure what I would do. Burks could be the Suns answer at PG and SG. That is hard to pass up. However, if Biyombo is that talented, it may be wishful thinking he will fall very far. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see both players gone before #13. I just don't pass on a good big man for PG/SG unless he is a player like Westbrook or Kobe. However, Burks could turn out to be that good.

 

[JCSunsfan]

that, best case would still be just Mo Williams..

Jimmer is way better than Eddie House. He is a better shooter, is a more creative scorer, stronger.

By July, Jimmer Fredette and Kenneth Faried will be absolutely tearing up the summer leagues.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Lol no there's at least 5 PFs that will go higher than Biyombo.

I like him but I doubt we need to trade up to get him. Best case scenario would be to trade Nash for a mid 1st and something else then draft Burks with our #13 pick and get Biyombo with the mid 1st rd pick.

I agree with this. Biyombo is late first round gambling.

Biyombo, who is 6-9 with a 7-7 wingspan, has played just 14 games for Fuenlabrada in Spain’s top division, averaging 16.6 minutes. He averages 6.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.3 blocks.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...-makes-quite-a-name-for-himself#ixzz1JAW3tBWl

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Based on all I have read here and on the links provided here on Biyombo, I think he is just the type of talent we need to gamble on to change the way this franchise operates. Fredette would keep things the way it has been for 43 years, though I would take Fredette as a high-20's pick (I know we don't have one anymore). As for Boyimbo, give it a go, dude....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Oh, and with 2 games left, we would have to lose out and UTA would have to win out for us to change our odds in the lottery. What a joke this season has been. 7-15 since March 1. Nice....

 

[JCSunsfan]

Oh, and with 2 games left, we would have to lose out and UTA would have to win out for us to change our odds in the lottery. What a joke this season has been. 7-15 since March 1. Nice....

Utah had a head start on the tanking.

 

[Mainstreet]

Utah had a head start on the tanking.

Also as of now, Utah has a better future and the Suns don't. It is doubtful the Suns will be able to do a Deron Williams type trade with Nash. I sure hope I'm wrong.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Also as of now, Utah has a better future and the Suns don't. It is doubtful the Suns will be able to do a Deron Williams type trade with Nash. I sure hope I'm wrong.

doubtful? more like definite.

 

[slinslin]

Utah has 2 lottery picks and Derrick Favors.

 

[slinslin]

And there you have it..

DX hat Biyombo at #8
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Also looks pretty young to me... nothing compared to Lebron or Oden.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Utah had a head start on the tanking.

It doesn't help that we went 3-0 against them this year....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

And there you have it..

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Also looks pretty young to me... nothing compared to Lebron or Oden.

UTA could come out of this draft with Boyimbo and Fredette to go along with Devin Harris, Al Jefferson, and Derrick Favors. That makes Milsap expendable (possibly) which means we could go after him again.

I'll tell you what, if we had Nash-FA2-Hill-Milsap-Gortat, I'd feel a lot better about next season....

 

[AsUdUdE]

Jimmer didn't play uch defense because they played zone and specifically told him not to get into foul trouble... He plays Steve Nash defense, he stays in front and will put a hand in your face..

he is more athletic than many people realize, can score from ANYWHERE on the court and has under rated passing..

He is Stephan Curry, without the famous dad...

And FWIW, Curry is not doing to bad right now...

Fredette will average between 14-18 PPG and 5-8 APG during his career, mark it down, and for the #13 pick in the draft that would be a GREAT pick and perfect fit for the Suns...

 

[sunsfan88]

Utah won't get another PF. They have like a zillion.

They would go after a center imo. They can definitely use an upgrade on Okur.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jimmer didn't play uch defense because they played zone and specifically told him not to get into foul trouble... He plays Steve Nash defense, he stays in front and will put a hand in your face..

he is more athletic than many people realize, can score from ANYWHERE on the court and has under rated passing..

He is Stephan Curry, without the famous dad...

And FWIW, Curry is not doing to bad right now...

Fredette will average between 14-18 PPG and 5-8 APG during his career, mark it down, and for the #13 pick in the draft that would be a GREAT pick and perfect fit for the Suns...

That's about right I think.

 

[slinslin]

UTA could come out of this draft with Boyimbo and Fredette to go along with Devin Harris, Al Jefferson, and Derrick Favors. That makes Milsap expendable (possibly) which means we could go after him again.

I'll tell you what, if we had Nash-FA2-Hill-Milsap-Gortat, I'd feel a lot better about next season....

Millsap is a tweener and that team has no potential except playing to stay barely over .500 at best.
Think of what we have to give up as well to get Millsap.

Our future would be even worse.

 

[slinslin]

Jimmer didn't play uch defense because they played zone and specifically told him not to get into foul trouble... He plays Steve Nash defense, he stays in front and will put a hand in your face..

he is more athletic than many people realize, can score from ANYWHERE on the court and has under rated passing..

He is Stephan Curry, without the famous dad...

And FWIW, Curry is not doing to bad right now...

Fredette will average between 14-18 PPG and 5-8 APG during his career, mark it down, and for the #13 pick in the draft that would be a GREAT pick and perfect fit for the Suns...

Excuses. Fredette just can't play defense. More then enough scouts have already said they never saw him bend his knees on defense.

Stephen Curry was much better than Fredette and younger.

And please, they told him not to play defense because of foul trouble? He is no big man, do you know any PG that gets in foul trouble because of playing defense? I don't.

Jimmer is a role player. His passing is overrated not underrated. If he wasn't such a scoring threat he wouldn't get near the amount of passes.

Fredette is no perfect fit for the Suns. He will never be able to run an offense like Nash. He would be good in a system with Nash, but I never want to see a Nash/Fredette backcourt and certainly don't want to see a team build around Fredette.

 

[slinslin]

Perry Jones skipping the draft... major disappointment..

He was one player that would go ahead of us or magically fall to us...

I'll be estatic if either Burks or Knight are available at #13 but it looks like that has no chance of happening.

Biyombo clearly looks like the #1 PF on the board without Sullinger and Jones.. if you consider Derrick Williams a SF, I do.

 

[slinslin]

My vote for the non-lottery pick in this years draft who is most likely to become an all-star----Kenneth Faried.

This kid plays with Lou Amundsons motor, but with more athletic ability. I so much want the Suns to draft him, because I want to watch him on a nightly basis.

Kenneth Faried has no basketball IQ, absolutely no offense and played against horrible competition.

Sorry but these players never become allstars.. his best case is role player, see Amundson..

We need to be creative. Acquire players that have shown flashes but are stuck on a team. I am talking about players like Terrence Williams, Hasheem Thabeet, Jordan Hill all on the Rockets team or in the past Anthony Randolph, Michael Beasley. But our management is simply incapable if you are just wanting to sign the good guys, the high character guys you will not have much success.. Sometimes you need to take your chances with talent because talent can't be taught not matter how hard someone might work.

 

[tobiazz]

We need to be creative. Acquire players that have shown flashes but are stuck on a team. I am talking about players like Terrence Williams, Hasheem Thabeet, Jordan Hill all on the Rockets team or in the past Anthony Randolph, Michael Beasley. But our management is simply incapable if you are just wanting to sign the good guys, the high character guys you will not have much success.. Sometimes you need to take your chances with talent because talent can't be taught not matter how hard someone might work.

Isn't Brooks the sort of player who showed flashes and was stuck on a team (that same Rockets team)?

 

[SirStefan32]

Fredette is no perfect fit for the Suns. He will never be able to run an offense like Nash.

Hate to break it to you, but there is nobody out there who would be able to run an offense like Nash. Steve Nash is a very unique player.

 

[slinslin]

Isn't Brooks the sort of player who showed flashes and was stuck on a team (that same Rockets team)?

Eh no, he was a not highly regarded midget PG that surprised people early and was absolutely horrific this year.

And even if it is not like those players always work out, Brooks certainly didn't.

Plus Brooks is FA and wants money which is why Houston wanted to get rid of him even more.

Plus we gave up a draft pick and a prospect not much worse than him if at all to get him..

 

[slinslin]

Hate to break it to you, but there is nobody out there who would be able to run an offense like Nash. Steve Nash is a very unique player.

Tell that to people who are declaring that Fredette could take over for Nash and thrive in this system.

 

[SirStefan32]

Tell that to people who are declaring that Fredette could take over for Nash and thrive in this system.

I don't think anyone is suggesting Fredette can step in and take over right where Nash left off. There are people who think he could run Suns offense, which is debatable, but I am pretty sure nobody is suggesting that Fredette is Nash part 2.

 

[BC867]

Hate to break it to you, but there is nobody out there who would be able to run an offense like Nash. Steve Nash is a very unique player.

If we go from an "A" to a "B" or "C" when Nash leaves (or gets injured), that's understandable and OK.

To play an undersized Shooting Guard at Point Guard because he's too small for his position. 'Not the same.