2011 NBA Playoffs Thread

[D-Dogg]

I will now root for the Mavs to win the title against Celtics in the final!

So will I. :dcr:

 

[D-Dogg]

LOL Lakers.
LOL spoiled Lakers fans that dont know how to accept a beatdown in progress.

wait, we are supposed to make stuff up? We are supposed to pretend that Pau has been playing great all series, despite the fact that the Mavs aren't doing ANYTHING different that would cause his nuts to shrivel?

Accepting a beatdown is a given...the Mavs are smoking us. But WHY that is happening is highly debatable. Laker haters want to say the Mavs are putting it to the Lakers. Lakers fans are furious at their team's brain melts at the end of games one and three. Mavs players are thinking, THANK GOD the lakers are the ones imploding and not us...thanks for the wins dummies.

Reverse the script, and say the dumb fouls and the idiot turnovers and bad shots, combined with horrible defensive rotations were happening on Dallas' side, and the Lakers were the ones coming back to win. Would you be saying "oh, those Lakers are taking it" or would you say "there goes dallas, choking it away again."

I know what you would say...no need to answer. ESPECIALLY you cheese.

 

[Magnus]

I will now root for the Mavs to win the title against Celtics in the final!

But you'll probably have to change the team you are rooting against

I seriously doubt The Celtics will get to the finals this year.

 

[Manu4five]

I don't get this. Before the Fakers started to lose against Dallas the cheesepersons and the other hollywood people here thought the Fakers were unbeatable. It was only me and lorenzotexan who had a balanced view concerning the Fakers. They are not that great.

 

[SirStefan32]

I don't get this. Before the Fakers started to lose against Dallas the cheesepersons and the other hollywood people here thought the Fakers were unbeatable. It was only me and lorenzotexan who had a balanced view concerning the Fakers. They are not that great.

If only they had Tiago Splitter on their roster, they would be unbeatable.

 

[Lorenzo]

this is TOTAL denial. this Mavericks team has TAKEN this series. They have been clamping down on D, forcing the Lakers (ahem KOBE and his 2-10 in the second half) into bad shots/turnovers and making every big shot needed.

sorry, but what we're seeing is one team playing championship ball and another team being out-classed, plain and simple.

giving it away is ridiculous.

cheesebeef well said. in Lakerland and national media...it is all about what the lakers aren't doing and they are giving it away. again...lakers don't give things away. you have to beat them. when have they ever given a series away with kobe/phil? never. I've seen teams rarely beat them, but haven't seen them give things away.

To me the difference in game 1 and game 3...the two close games....is the closing. The mavericks are closing through dirk and he is scoring and setting up teammates with wide open looks. fisher's foul is the result of a player(in JET) who can shoot a 3 with little to no space. fish was trying to defend and made a mistake. Pau's foul on dirk in game 1...was basically the same concept. A guy trying to be aggressive and made a mistake.

Then for the lakers...no one is really talking about it. but they are closing through kobe. and while he is making a lot of shots in this series...he is not making shots down the stretch of these games and his teammates aren't helping.

the only real advantage i see in this series is bynum. and the lakers don't seem to be comfortable going to him late in the game. they are going to go with kobe every time. and if kobe doesn't deliever they will lose. period. that is what I see.

 

[desertdawg]

I still want to know the odds in Vegas, if I throw down a 100 bucks on LA today, what would I win?

 

[Mainstreet]

Dirk was very impressive down the stretch in game 3. He just refused to allow Dallas to lose when the Lakers took that 8 point lead down the stretch. It looked like the Lakers had taken control. He was a man playing almost possessed. He made some critical and some highly contested shots. IMO, Dallas loses game 3 unless Dirk carried them in that crucial period after the Lakers had taken that lead. Again, the Dallas team stepped up to the occasion but it was Dirk that led the way. Also, Dallas played some excellent defense and shut down the Lakers offense at the end.

 

[Lorenzo]

Dirk was very impressive down the stretch in game 3. He just refused to allow Dallas to lose when the Lakers took that 8 point lead down the stretch. It looked like the Lakers had taken control. He was a man playing almost possessed. He made some critical and some highly contested shots. IMO, Dallas loses game 3 unless Dirk carried them in that crucial period after the Lakers had taken that lead. Again, the Dallas team stepped up to the occasion but it was Dirk that led the way. Also, Dallas played some excellent defense and shut down the Lakers offense at the end.

and that's just it. everyone is talking about the lakers mishaps. but no one is talking about the dallas defense. so far they have yet to give up 100pts in a playoff game. when is the last time you've seen that this deep into the playoffs? what about dirk's defense and rebounding??

he steps up in the playoffs. then you have to give credit to donnie nelson and mark cuban for the defensive players that they've added the past two years. their roster has changed a lot over that time and they are finally start to see the results of the continuity. too bad butler is not available to help out.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't get this. Before the Fakers started to lose against Dallas the cheesepersons and the other hollywood people here thought the Fakers were unbeatable. It was only me and lorenzotexan who had a balanced view concerning the Fakers. They are not that great.

what don't you get? we're wrong and LOVING IT.

the fact that you still think we're hollywood people is something i don't get.

 

[82CardsGrad]

this is such denial. they've PUMMELED you in EVERY FOURTH QUARTER. that's where games are won in the NBA. for pete's sake, you're on the verge of GETTING SWEPT WITH HOME-COURT ADVANTAGE. give credit where credit's due. this is ridiculous.

what a sore freaking loser.

This... how anyone, Laker fan or not, can't see that the Mavs - yes, the MAVS, have outplayed the Lakers is stunning... The Lakers have finally come rashing to earth in a heap of reality. Phil needs to go. His decision-making and patience are gone. Kobe is now clearly on the downside of his career... still great, but not nearly great enough anymore to carry the team and make up for the other weaknesses...
Pau is simply Pau... a chump! Period. Always has been, always will be... Dirk makes him look like a totally lost rookie!
Bynum simply can't play and sustain an entire game of solid play.
And their bench is brutal...

This has been one of the most satisfying NBA playoff series I have seen in a very long time!!!!

Go Mavs!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

wait, we are supposed to make stuff up? We are supposed to pretend that Pau has been playing great all series, despite the fact that the Mavs aren't doing ANYTHING different that would cause his nuts to shrivel?

Accepting a beatdown is a given...the Mavs are smoking us. But WHY that is happening is highly debatable. Laker haters want to say the Mavs are putting it to the Lakers. Lakers fans are furious at their team's brain melts at the end of games one and three. Mavs players are thinking, THANK GOD the lakers are the ones imploding and not us...thanks for the wins dummies.

Reverse the script, and say the dumb fouls and the idiot turnovers and bad shots, combined with horrible defensive rotations were happening on Dallas' side, and the Lakers were the ones coming back to win.

Would you be saying "oh, those Lakers are taking it" or would you say "there goes dallas, choking it away again."

I know what you would say...no need to answer. ESPECIALLY you cheese.

jesus... what a freaking bitch. seriously, this is the most ridiculous case of being a sore loser I've ever seen.

Oh! The Lakers rotations are terrible! Yeah, that's what happens when Derek Fisher gets exposed, like he has ALL SEASON. Oh no! Kobe's making bone-heads plays and not clutching up at the end of games! Yeah, that's been happening ALL SEASON as well. Oh no! Our bench isn't producing! And it hasn't... ALL SEASON. Oh no! We didn't dump it into Bynum enough at the end! And you haven't... ALL SEASON!

The team you're seeing in the playoffs IS THE TEAM YOU ARE. I'll admit it, I always thought there was a switch to be flipped with this team, but the bottom line was the frustrating team the Lakers were ALL SEASON IS WHO THEY WERE THIS YEAR.

seriously... Fisher makes a dumb foul... because he can't guard anyone. Dirk is a match-up nightmare for you guys. Kobe has to try to take over the end of games and can't and thus Bynum doesn't get his touches. And Pau is just a freaking bitch when push comes to shove. What's new about ANYTHING there? This team for years was able to win because they had a RIDICULOUS edge in talent AND Kobe could put them on his shoulders if need be. that time is OVER and we're seeing that in the fourth quarters.

I can't believe how much of a bitch you're being about getting being on the verge of getting swept and the Mavs just making clutch shot after clutch shot after clutch shot against you.

 

[slinslin]

Kobe saying they will come back from 0-3 sounds funny, Kobe the quitter.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The team you're seeing in the playoffs IS THE TEAM YOU ARE. I'll admit it, I always thought there was a switch to be flipped with this team, but the bottom line was the frustrating team the Lakers were ALL SEASON IS WHO THEY WERE THIS YEAR.

Even when we won 17 of 18 after the All-Star break and looked unstoppable at times...you thought this?

Man, you're good.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Even when we won 17 of 18 after the All-Star break and looked unstoppable at times...you thought this?

Man, you're good.

after they lost 5 of 7 games right afterward (and just looked pathetic in those two wins), i started to. that's when I thought OKC probably had a legit chance to beat them. Granted, I didn't see THIS coming, but just the fact that I thought OKC had a shot to beat them was something I hadn't had that thought about anyone in the last three years.

 

[Lorenzo]

They gave away game 1, legit. Coasted and everyone on the planet knew it.

They had this game, then went stupid. That wasn't the Mavs dude, it was the Lakers. Mavs did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING DIFFERENT in the fourth. The Lakers deviated completely from their plan.

Clamped down my ass. That's funny. I suppose they forced the Lakers into making ridiculously untimely fouls to give free throws, too? Oh, wait. I suppose they forced the Lakers to ignore the post? Oh wait, there was Drew camped deep in the lane. I suppose they forced the Lakers to lose helpers for help defenders on defense, leading to open threes? Oh wait. That was all them too.

Dallas WON game 2. Flat out won it. Lakers gave away game 1, and just gave away game 3. Dallas simply hasn't screwed up, while the Lakers have looked like Keystone Cops in crunch time of two games. THAT is shocking, but it is not the Mavs taking it.

The Mavs taking it would be both teams tearing it up and the Mavs making great defensive plays to get key stops, then hitting big shots. It is NOT Pau fouling Dirk at half court for the go ahead free throws. Or Kobe fouling Kidd at half court because he got caught in the air and threw the ball at Pau's back instead of shooting it and letting Pau rebound, giving Kidd free throws to get the Mavs back within 1. Or Fish fouling Terry at the end of the shot clock after Phil decides NOT to foul to extend the game and rather to play defense and go for the stop. Those are gift-wrapped "come take my lunch money" plays that are textbook definition of "GIVING IT AWAY."

Mavs haven't taken anything - they've simply watched the Lakers implode, and said "damn, we used to do that." Then they won the games.

Clamped down on D. Freaking hilarious. I guess they clamped down on the Lakers D too, to make them go away from what was working earlier and start slacking off shooters and losing people in switches again, right? Phil addressed this in his postgame...the Lakers clamped down on idiocy in the last 2 minutes...THAT is the only clamping that took place.

take your jack glasses off and watch these highlights. sometimes it just comes down to someone being unstoppable.

this is the game 1 that the lakers gave away. when I watch these highlights I see the best frontline in basketball trying like hell to guard this guy without fouling(not really giving him open looks) and they just can't stop him. look in particular at the end when dirk hits the shot to pull within one... odom gets backed down into the cameramen by dirk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApbUJNeHbjE

 

[Lorenzo]

after they lost 5 of 7 games right afterward (and just looked pathetic in those two wins), i started to. that's when I thought OKC probably had a legit chance to beat them. Granted, I didn't see THIS coming, but just the fact that I thought OKC had a shot to beat them was something I hadn't had that thought about anyone in the last three years.

I agree.

Manu4Five. You called cheesebeef out. To clarify he never said the lakers couldn't be beat. In fact he said they were very beatable. What he said was that OKC had the best shot. He said that the spurs had no shot(he was right). He said that the mavs had no shot(he was wrong). the series is not over yet. But I didn't see this coming. I thought dallas would push LA to 6 or 7 games, but would ultimately lose. I give dirk and his teammates credit. they have TAKEN all 3 of these games. This reminds me of the 04 finals in a way. The lakers are imploding because a team is just better than them right now.

That's why you see phil yelling and hitting people. that's why kobe is trying to pretend like nothing is wrong. that's why bynum is saying stupid stuff in the media. these are not things that the lakers normally do, because they normally don't lose. they are in denial and I love every min of it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I mean, seriously Donald... as an avowed Laker hater, don't you think i'd be CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO CALL THEM CHOKE-ARTISTS?!

They choked away game 1. sure. You have a 16 point lead at home, you finish that game. But a 7 point lead is nothing in the NBA, especially on the road. That whole game was back and forth... the Mavs went up 7, then the Lakers went up 7, then the Mavs tied it up, then the Lakers went up 8, then the Mavs made one final run and the Lakers couldn't answer. How that's a choke, I have no idea.

you can point to the wide-open threes the Mavs got in the fourth all you want, but the bottom line is those threes were wide open ALL NIGHT... ALL SERIES... and when the chips were down, they made 'em.

 

[Lorenzo]

I mean, seriously Donald... as an avowed Laker hater, don't you think i'd be CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO CALL THEM CHOKE-ARTISTS?!

They choked away game 1. sure. You have a 16 point lead at home, you finish that game. But a 7 point lead is nothing in the NBA, especially on the road. That whole game was back and forth... the Mavs went up 7, then the Lakers went up 7, then the Mavs tied it up, then the Lakers went up 8, then the Mavs made one final run and the Lakers couldn't answer. How that's a choke, I have no idea.

you can point to the wide-open threes the Mavs got in the fourth all you want, but the bottom line is those threes were wide open ALL NIGHT... ALL SERIES... and when the chips were down, they made 'em.

yeah they have had open shots all series. even when they lost in the regular season I came on here and said that the mavs got what they wanted against LA...but they just flat out missed shots that they normally make. like terry said after game 2..."we haven't even hit shots yet in this series like we can...they are there"

peja missed wide open looks in that game last night. then suddenly in the 4th he started to finally knock them down. lakers and their fans are just refusing to accept this. why the hell were they trying to double or triple dirk(when he came inside) and then think that a guy isn't going to be open. the same thing happened in game 2 with the pick and roll.

this is simple elementary math. you collapse...another guy is open somewhere on the court. I mean the lakers have done this for years with kobe and his BIG(shaq/gasol/bynum)

 

[Mainstreet]

Kobe saying they will come back from 0-3 sounds funny, Kobe the quitter.

He'll probably pout and refuse to shoot the ball as he did with the Suns in the final game of a playoff series... make it all about the team and not him producing.

 

[Cheesebeef]

yeah they have had open shots all series. even when they lost in the regular season I came on here and said that the mavs got what they wanted against LA...but they just flat out missed shots that they normally make. like terry said after game 2..."we haven't even hit shots yet in this series like we can...they are there"

you were right and i couldn't be happier to be wrong.

peja missed wide open looks in that game last night. then suddenly in the 4th he started to finally knock them down. lakers and their fans are just refusing to accept this. why the hell were they trying to double or triple dirk(when he came inside) and then think that a guy isn't going to be open. the same thing happened in game 2 with the pick and roll.

this is simple elementary math. you collapse...another guy is open somewhere on the court. I mean the lakers have done this for years with kobe and his BIG(shaq/gasol/bynum)

agreed.

 

[Bufalay]

jesus... what a freaking bitch. seriously, this is the most ridiculous case of being a sore loser I've ever seen.

Oh! The Lakers rotations are terrible! Yeah, that's what happens when Derek Fisher gets exposed, like he has ALL SEASON. Oh no! Kobe's making bone-heads plays and not clutching up at the end of games! Yeah, that's been happening ALL SEASON as well. Oh no! Our bench isn't producing! And it hasn't... ALL SEASON. Oh no! We didn't dump it into Bynum enough at the end! And you haven't... ALL SEASON!

The team you're seeing in the playoffs IS THE TEAM YOU ARE. I'll admit it, I always thought there was a switch to be flipped with this team, but the bottom line was the frustrating team the Lakers were ALL SEASON IS WHO THEY WERE THIS YEAR.

seriously... Fisher makes a dumb foul... because he can't guard anyone. Dirk is a match-up nightmare for you guys. Kobe has to try to take over the end of games and can't and thus Bynum doesn't get his touches. And Pau is just a freaking bitch when push comes to shove. What's new about ANYTHING there? This team for years was able to win because they had a RIDICULOUS edge in talent AND Kobe could put them on his shoulders if need be. that time is OVER and we're seeing that in the fourth quarters.

I can't believe how much of a bitch you're being about getting being on the verge of getting swept and the Mavs just making clutch shot after clutch shot after clutch shot against you.

So basically you're saying that the Lakers are who you thought they were?

 

[BC867]

So basically you're saying that the Lakers are who you thought they were?

LOL. Or the other quote, "You've got a winner in town." It's frustrating that Phoenix isn't participating in this L.A. decline.

 

[desertdawg]

Durant will mess Dirk up in the Western Finals. The Mavs will accomplish their lifelong dreams of beating LA only to get punked by OKC.

 

[mojorizen7]

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