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yeah I think they may have celebrated too much, but no one will remember that if they win a ring. I think it gives people something to talk about.

I get the fact that boston was the team that eliminated the heat and the cavs in years past. it's kind of weird given that they did that after a 5 game series? that and boston was beat up. it's not like they haven't been eliminated before either. boston lost to chicago and orlando recently in the playoffs when their main guys were injured.

if it were 7 games down to the wire or something like that I could see the celebration. but that's just my opinion. I think chicago will be a tougher series for them.
 
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I think chicago will be a tougher series for them.

I actually think Chicago will be easier for them. Rose carrying like 60% of that team's offense do not bode well for them. Hawks may not have an answer for him, but Heat will do a better job containing him.
 

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I actually think Chicago will be easier for them. Rose carrying like 60% of that team's offense do not bode well for them. Hawks may not have an answer for him, but Heat will do a better job containing him.

Who is going to guard Rose? Seriously.

You can go on and on about how his offense is too heavy a load, but Chalmers and Bibby?
 

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Who is going to guard Rose? Seriously.

You can go on and on about how his offense is too heavy a load, but Chalmers and Bibby?

Rose is gonna be relatively unstoppable... but unfortunately for him, so are Wade and LeBron. 2 is better than 1 in the playoffs.

I amend statement in another thread though. It won't be as easy for the Heat as 5 games, but i think they win a hard-fought six game series. that chi-town team is still a player and a season of experience away.
 

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Who is going to guard Rose? Seriously.

You can go on and on about how his offense is too heavy a load, but Chalmers and Bibby?


Who is gonna guard D-Wade and 'Bron?? Seriously.

The Bulls were tested by the Hawks. They might not be easy pickens for the Heat, but, I'd be surprised if the Bulls win 2 games...
 

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Who is gonna guard D-Wade and 'Bron?? Seriously.

The Bulls were tested by the Hawks. They might not be easy pickens for the Heat, but, I'd be surprised if the Bulls win 2 games...

Bulls can put Bogans and Deng on Wade and El Bj. That might be able to control them. And Wade having to chase Rose should make things interesting. Going to be a tough series for sure. Looking forward to it now that Bulls are getting in sync.
 

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The Bulls will be helped by all of the injured Heat players (injured from patting themselves on the back and crowning themselves as champs just for beating the Celtics).
 

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Mulli, no offense at all but you are not going to stop LBJ and Wade. If somehow some way that happens Miami will be swept but I will bet any money that won't happen. Same as Kobe cannot really be stopped, you can only hope he has a bad night.
 

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Mulli, no offense at all but you are not going to stop LBJ and Wade. If somehow some way that happens Miami will be swept but I will bet any money that won't happen. Same as Kobe cannot really be stopped, you can only hope he has a bad night.

They can contain them somewhat. Just like Spurs contained Suns with Amare and Nash. If any team has a defense and the coach to do it, it is the Bulls and Coach Thibs.
 

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Mulli, no offense at all but you are not going to stop LBJ and Wade. If somehow some way that happens Miami will be swept but I will bet any money that won't happen. Same as Kobe cannot really be stopped, you can only hope he has a bad night.

No offense taken. Going to be tough.
 

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Post season supposed to be tough... most of the time. So yea - Rose is allworld and he alone will make it tough. But, he won't be enough. Not nearly...

Boston kept it pretty close and doesnt have nearly the team Chicago does.
 

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Who is gonna guard D-Wade and 'Bron?? Seriously.

The Bulls were tested by the Hawks. They might not be easy pickens for the Heat, but, I'd be surprised if the Bulls win 2 games...

Who guarded them during the regular season?
 

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Boston kept it pretty close and doesnt have nearly the team Chicago does.

Exactly.

OLD ass Boston who traded their best threat against the heat WITHOUT home court, was able to be a missed Pierce shot (hold on while I LOL) from 2-2 going to game 5. Again...LOL Pierce! Asshat.

Bulls with HC, unguardable Rose, hustling Noah, doucheboozer, Deng..solid across the board squad who did NOT act like they just found the cure for cancer after winning their second round matchup, against Dwade, Douchjames and The PillowRaptor.

Give me the Bulls.

Nice aside though, IF the Heat win the series, how in the hell do they celebrate after their second round ejaculation? Which player gets naked first? I'm guessing Bosh strips and dances at center court. Please Rose, let's stop that from happening.
 

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Right now honestly I like the bulls in a 6 game series. they have home court which I feel in an even matchup(which i feel this one is when you compare the bulls have better depth and the heat have better star players). I think that cancels out somewhat. It just comes down to performance. the bulls defend the paint as well as any team in the league. so if wade and lebron are knocking down jump shots they can win this series.

If they miss jump shots(and let me remind you that lebron and dwade are streak shooters both good and bad) I see the bulls winning this series.

There are matchup problems on both sides. which boozer or bosh will show up from day to day? noah is probably going to have a field day in this series. dwade will be in trouble if he has to chase rose. it will take away from his offense as the series goes on. the bulls don't have anyone that can guard lebron necessarily, but like I said they have length(compared to the heat) and can defend the paint. I do not understand why so many experts think that the heat are simply going to waltz over the bulls. if the bulls protect their home court early in the series the heat are in trouble.

Another thing to mention. The media says that the bulls don't get enough scoring, but I don't know that the heat do either. yes we all know that sometimes it becomes the derrick rose show, but the bulls get more scoring from role players then that of the heat. the heat literally seem to get all of their scoring from 3 guys every game. I think that eventually will be their death this year. I think it will be now against chicago.

I'm not buying into them after beating a weak philly and beat up boston squad.
 
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Who guarded them during the regular season?


Heat regular season & Heat post season are two very different teams. Boston had a 3 & 1 record against the Heat in the regular season. Bulls are 3 & 0 in regular season will suffer the same fate as the Celtics...
 

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Heat regular season & Heat post season are two very different teams. Boston had a 3 & 1 record against the Heat in the regular season. Bulls are 3 & 0 in regular season will suffer the same fate as the Celtics...
regular season is done so yes there is no point in looking back.

what you have to look at is the now. boston was not championship caliber. no question about that. that is not the same boston team that eliminated the cavs last year. again look at recent years when they have been injured...they have lost in the playoffs early. rose eliminated them too remember? as young as rose is its not like this is his first rodeo.

Miami has not been tested yet by a team like chicago in the playoffs. I actually feel atlanta would have been a better test than boston. I think they can win the series if lebron and dwade play 4 incredible games. if not they will lose. this is a team game. ultimately you have to get contributions from several players to win a championship. I feel that the bulls show that ability more than the heat do. what makes this series interesting is that the heat have 2.5 star players and the bulls have one. the bulls have a good bench and the heat don't. I think it evens the playing field.

another thing that people aren't talking about is the heat's interior defense. when your best defender is 6 feet 8 or 9...what happens when you play a bigger agressive team like chicago? I don't know. it's not like they have dwight howard or anything, but they have aggressive guys that are big. who is holding down the paint besides bosh?
 
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regular season is done so yes there is no point in looking back.

what you have to look at is the now. boston was not championship caliber. no question about that. that is not the same boston team that eliminated the cavs last year. again look at recent years when they have been injured...they have lost in the playoffs early. rose eliminated them too remember? as young as rose is its not like this is his first rodeo.

Miami has not been tested yet by a team like chicago in the playoffs. I actually feel atlanta would have been a better test than boston. I think they can win the series if lebron and dwade play 4 incredible games. if not they will lose. this is a team game. ultimately you have to get contributions from several players to win a championship. I feel that the bulls show that ability more than the heat do. what makes this series interesting is that the heat have 2.5 star players and the bulls have one. the bulls have a good bench and the heat don't. I think it evens the playing field.

another thing that people aren't talking about is the heat's interior defense. when your best defender is 6 feet 8 or 9...what happens when you play a bigger agressive team like chicago? I don't know. it's not like they have dwight howard or anything, but they have aggressive guys that are big. who is holding down the paint besides bosh?
You mean Bosh as the .5 star player right? To me, Boozer and Noah are both capable of outplaying Bosh. Now that Boozer's ridiculous turf toe problems don't seem to be bothering him, he has been scoring much better. Man, I am getting stoked for this series.
 

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You mean Bosh as the .5 star player right? To me, Boozer and Noah are both capable of outplaying Bosh. Now that Boozer's ridiculous turf toe problems don't seem to be bothering him, he has been scoring much better. Man, I am getting stoked for this series.
yes...i actually think that bosh is a good player. and he went to high school in my home area. I think he has a bright future in this league, but to me he is the one (of the big 3) who looks like he's having a tough time fitting in. It's like he is passive agressive playing along side two alpha males. I guess he is putting up better numbers in the playoffs than I thought, but we will see. how that goes against chicago with noah, boozer, and the other long guys that they have.

Now that the press conferences have passed after the boston series it appears that the heat wanted to model boston's big 3 method. the problem for me is that I don't know that bosh was necessary. He's not a kevin garnett(at least to this point and doesn't appear to be down the line either). wade and lebron are both so good that I don't think they need another superstar on their team. they need guys like what you see in chicago now and chicago when MJ was there. big long guys that are ok with being a complentary piece. a guy like a tyson chandler or a gortat(combination) would be great for them.

bosh needs to be on a team where he is a plan A or plan B scorer if you ask me. I honestly thought that bosh would have fit better in chicago than miami. and miami would have a lot more cap space to go out and get quality depth without bosh's contract.
 
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yes...i actually thought that bosh was a better player. I think he has a bright future in this league, but to me he doesn't even look as well as he was in a toronto uniform. now you can say toronto was a bad team and he got more shots, but you would think that playing behind 2 guys who are all nba guys would actually make his game better. I don't know...there's something about it to me that doesn't see quite right there.
To me, Josh Smith and Horford (especially when Smith is trying) are both significantly better than Joel Anthony and Chris Bosh. The Bulls seemed to figure out how to shut them down cold. If the Bulls win it, they will probably have to beat them in 7, but the differences in the front lines might be the difference. Remains to be seen.
 

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Boston looks old and tired compared to the Heat. The Big 3 in Boston just can't match the Big 3 in Miami... so far. Who knows, maybe the Celtics will find a fountain of youth when they return to their home court. But, even if they do, I really don't seem them winning 4 games against the Heat. They need Ray Allen and Pierce to go nuts offensively. And while they might just do that over the next 2 games, they won't do that over the next 4-5 games... It's the Heat in this one... and I think it'll be Atlanta in the other series. Even if Rose was 100%, I just don't think you can win in the post season when your leading scorer and Mr. Do-It-All is your point guard, with virtually no other major scoring threat.



As for the Bulls, ugh, they have yet to turn up their game to a playoff level for more than 5 minutes at a time. I think they have the pieces, but the intensity isn't there. And the ATL was making every shot not taken by Josh Smith.
Sorry couldn't resist. Bulls picked up intesity. Boozer and Deng and Bogans to some extent started scoring and BOOM, Hawks folded. Shot 34% from field in game 6. Embarassing, it took 6 games, but last two were not close at all.
 

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