2011 NBA Playoffs Thread
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I could see it go either way. I'm hoping for the Grizz to stay alive and force a game 7. Randolph has to get his mojo back to do it though.
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It is not a rivalry until both teams beat each other. I don't see Chicago beating Miami in a series anytime soon.
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Memphis wins tonight and then knocks out the Thunder in OKC. Chicago wins in 5. Dallas takes the Griz down in 5 and they beat the Bulls in 7. Until I see otherwise, I still think this is the Miami of the regular season. I thought this was the weakest looking Boston team entering the playoffs of the last several years. I don't even think the Celtics get past the Knicks if Amare and Chauncey are healthy and with Rondo ailing, they were no match for ANY of the postseason teams.
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I'll file this under nonslinse. First off, there have been plenty of rivalries where one side has dominated. Secondly, how many times has Miami beaten Chicago in the playoffs? The two teams look poised to be the most dominating teams in the East for several years to come. Regardless of postseason results, I see this becoming a huge rivalry.
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What, like a PG? Since ours is just the second coming of Stephon Marbury or Steve Francis? (Your words, not mine ) Chicago is a starting SG from being a complete all around team. Did you forget that the Bulls had the best record in the league and have lost only 6 games at home, including the playoffs.
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You are the most biased poster on the forum, even more than THESMELL.
My breakdown of the Bulls/Heat match-up. I will be rating the match-ups and giving an edge to on side and how big the edge is out of 5.
PG Rose/Bibby - Rose 5
SG Bogans/Wade - Wade 5
SF Deng/James - James 5
PF Boozer/Bosh - Even
C Noah/Anthony - Noah 4
Bench Chicago 4
Coach Thibs 3
Chicago 16 points
Miami 10 points
What I predict will happen is that because Miami is so soft in the middle, Rose and Boozer will have no problem scoring on the offensive side and on the defensive side will force Wade and James to settle for more jump shots than normal taking them out of their game. The Chicago home crowd will also play a factor.
Bulls in 6.
PG Rose/Bibby - Rose 5
SG Bogans/Wade - Wade 5
SF Deng/James - James 5
PF Boozer/Bosh - Even
C Noah/Anthony - Noah 4
Bench Chicago 4
Coach Thibs 3
Chicago 16 points
Miami 10 points
What I predict will happen is that because Miami is so soft in the middle, Rose and Boozer will have no problem scoring on the offensive side and on the defensive side will force Wade and James to settle for more jump shots than normal taking them out of their game. The Chicago home crowd will also play a factor.
Bulls in 6.
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It's just incredible how physical this playoff series is. If the winner (whoever that turns out to be-these teams are very evenly matched) is allowed to play this physical when they pair off against Dallas, I may have to change my pick. Dallas is much better equipped to survive physical play than they have been in the past but this series is like watching Boston play Boston. You could call a half dozen fouls on every possession (per team, maybe).
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I know I'm late to the Heat/Bulls discussion, but I think it's worth pointing out that the Heat have yet to face a remotely athletic front line in these playoffs. That's huge for a team that excels in the paint. Driving on Noah/Asik/Gibson is a whole different animal than driving on the likes of Kristic, the defensive ghost of Kevin Garnett and the mighty Spencer Hawes.
All of this Miami hype plays right into the Bulls' hands. They're much better in the role of the underdog. They also tend to play to the level of their opponent, which is why people should temper their conclusions based on how they looked against the Pacers and Hawks. With Rose, Boozer and Brewer all getting healthier by the day, I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by this series.
All of this Miami hype plays right into the Bulls' hands. They're much better in the role of the underdog. They also tend to play to the level of their opponent, which is why people should temper their conclusions based on how they looked against the Pacers and Hawks. With Rose, Boozer and Brewer all getting healthier by the day, I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by this series.
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boozer had some good years with the jazz. they were just unfortunate to have to play the lakers so many times as you say.
having said that he still looks like a shell of himself from what I've seen. but he is still going to give them solid production from a numbers standpoint when you combine him with noah. he had a great game 6. if he can play like that the heat are in major trouble. they have some major concerns in their interior defense. trying to defend the likes of boozer/noah. at the other end chicago is built to defend the paint. others in later posts mentioned this. wade and james will still score in the paint as always. but they won't necessarily have a field day. they will have to hit jump shots to win these games. and these two guys are no kobe from the outside. they are streak shooters. if they go cold they lose. that is were bosh will be key. if he doesn't step up his game and play like an all star I really can't see the heat winning moving forward.
rivalries? that's a great point that you made cheesebeef. Barring some type of change the stars are aligned for chicago and miami to be rivals for many years. anyone who can't see this simply doesn't know basketball.
what adds to the rivalry is the fact that LBJ, bosh, or wade could have all gone to chicago to play alongside derek rose. I think all of them overlooked rose's(and this bulls' roster) ability in a way. because in hindsight(while it is 20/20) if either one of those three came to chicago...they would likely be winning a ring this year....because I honestly feel that the heat are not built for a title this year.
the fact that chicago was part of the lbj/wade/bosh sweepstakes makes this even more interesting if you ask me. this really fans the flames.
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you are right. slowly over the last few years dallas has turned into more of a physical team. it is a complete 180 from where they were when nellie ran this team. it was all run and gun offense then. It took many years of progress and change, but now their roster is built to withstand a physical game in the halfcourt. they can also run in transition and shoot the ball from the perimeter. it helps when you have a guy like dirk who really doesn't have a weakness in his offensive game like most other all stars do. he isn't the most marketable NBA star so he doesn't always get the hype that some of the other guys do.
he can score with or without contact, with or without space, anywhere on the court. the only way to neutralize him is to double, but you see what happened to the lakers when they did that. a few years ago that would have frustrated dirk and took him out of his game. he has really worked hard over the years and is finally getting respect for that because of the way they are playing on the court.
having said that all of these teams that are left are physical teams. even OKC who is more run and gun...they have a big lineup in the frontcourt that really helps them match up with these teams. I think what may hurt them is the shot selection that they have at times during games. but you never know you can really say that for any team. if their outside shots are falling they are tough to beat.
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That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Good, glad you don't like it. Your comment on it does shows your superior basketball IQ, so please enlighten me how you would break it down since mine is so stupid.
By the way, after I posted mine, ESPN did pretty much the same thing, so I guess they are are stupid too.
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Yes, they make most of their money by appeasing the stupid masses.
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my Heat are on a mission.. all chicago has is Rose.. he wont be enuff..
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Well, you're right about that. Rose is a very good player but I don't think he can beat the Heat by himself. Hopefully, the Bulls will put 4 other guys on the court with him and then it shouldn't be much of a problem.
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was hoping the grizz would pull out game 7, but its not in the cards
imo, gasol was too passive. westbrook fed durant, instead of making himself the primary scorer.
grizz just shot poorly all game long, esp in the first half.
imo, gasol was too passive. westbrook fed durant, instead of making himself the primary scorer.
grizz just shot poorly all game long, esp in the first half.
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yeah all in all the griz played poorly as a team....not nearly good enough at either end of the floor to win a game 7 on the road. but you have to give those guys credit. they battled hard and made a playoff name for themselves.
I'm watching nbatv right now. they keep saying durant is a 7footer and are trying to promote a 7foot matchup with dirk... did he grow? i've always thought he was like 6'9''
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I thought AzStevenCal made a good. there are 4 other guys that will play with drose.
what's funny is that people say Drose is all the bulls have. and that is simply not true. while he is the only prolific scorer on that team, he does have a better supporting cast than most other star players in the league have(to include dwade/james combo). chicago is not a high scoring team...they won 60 games mostly with defense and closing out close games. miami is not a high scoring team either and plays the same way(relying on 3 guys for all of their scoring). I don't see any favorite here. to me the home court advantage is what swings it to the bulls.
so for those that are critical of the bulls for depending too much on their star..the heat have the same problem and that will be their undoing this year if they lose. it's only a matter of time. again..the heat will win titles when they get a real supporting cast.
I'm just looking at what I've watched on the court this year. we saw a trend with the lakers that looked like they were burning out all year long. we all knew it was going to catch up to them eventually and it did. I feel the heat's lack of depth is a negative trend that is currently being overlooked because their two star players are so glamorous. people get sucked into their greatness and overlook the warts on that team.
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during these playoffs all theyve had is Rose..
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