2023 NBA Playoffs - Other Teams

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Green has been hugely important to the Warriors success but I think he's going to be a mess at this next destination.

The Warriors have been extremely patient with him over the years but the next team who has him won't have 4 rings to make themselves feel better about dealing with all his bull.
Agreed. He also won’t get nearly the leeway from the league when his partner isn’t the golden child.
 

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I didn't think so at the time but then 5 minutes later he's walking and playing as if nothing happened. Oh well, Lebron's been doing it for years, no shock that others are getting into the act(ing).
I’d rather see them all stop. I hated it with soccer and it’s worse with the nba. We are supposed to look up to them as superior athletes and they’re crying and writhing about stuff my boys cried about when they were four and needed a bandaid for anytime they got bumped.
 

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This is how Draymond Green shows his appreciation to the league office.


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Should have been 2 games. 1 for the stomp and 1 for inciting the crowd. Might have been 2 games if the Warriors weren't in position to be swept. The league doesn't want to be viewed as the bad guy or scapegoat though. Without Draymond in game 3, Sabonis is going to have a field day inside. Expect to see him drop no less than 30.
 

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Should have been 2 games. 1 for the stomp and 1 for inciting the crowd. Might have been 2 games if the Warriors weren't in position to be swept. The league doesn't want to be viewed as the bad guy or scapegoat though. Without Draymond in game 3, Sabonis is going to have a field day inside. Expect to see him drop no less than 30.

Not necessarily. I assume they will start Kuminga instead. Sabonis will still guard Looney but now there's not 2 guys on the court you can just back off if you're Sabonis, he'll have to guard Kuminga or he'll score the ball. Sabonis has 8 fouls in 2 games, 5 in game 2. That's without him really having to guard his own man much. He'll have to work harder on defense.

Obviously Kuminga is not Draymond he's not as good a defender. The real issue will be rebounds, Looney has to play more now because Draymond had 13 boards in 2 games and they will have to replace that.

I also will again say I think you can look for the Warriors to look at possibly going smaller at times and having only 1 big on the court, maybe even Kuminga, but more likely Looney. Steph, Klay, Wiggs, Looney and say Payton or DiVincenzo for stretches and see if the Kings can defend that lineup.

Certainly hurts the Warriors defense and it changes the offense because Steph has to play on the ball more. Or they can just flip the whole thing and start Poole for Draymond and say Murray has to guard 1 of those 3 and whoever he guards we're going at him? Poole has not been good in either game, much better in game 1, maybe the Warriors just decide to let it rip and go REALLY small and try to get Poole loose?
 

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Watching Shaq and Chuck just decimate White on the Celtics hairline has me in tears . The poor guy gonna shave his head now
 

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Because that last game strongly suggests the Suns ultimately can handle the Clippers, although it will probably take six or seven. Especially if the bench can contribute more offense. (Talking to you, LANDRY SHAMET!)
The last game showed that we can BARELY win at home while relying on extraterrestrial performances from our stars and also barely giving them any rest.
 

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The last game showed that we can BARELY win at home while relying on extraterrestrial performances from our stars and also barely giving them any rest.

Wow last night was BARELY, that was really good considering it was a playoff game. Now game 1, we BARELY lost.

Play-ins were really close because teams were so evenly matched, as proven by their record. The same here as well for the Suns and Clippers as the 4/5 seed.
 

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I agree more with this. Last night was not a bare victory. Paul, Booker and Durant didn't have "extraterrestrial" performance, only "pretty good." Booker scores 38 or more so often that one almost shrugs at it. He's doing only what's expected of him. Same thing for Durant's 25. Even if Booker scored 50, that would be only a "great" game for him. His standards are so high that an "extraterrestrial" performance would be 60 or more.

The one whom I thought played better than usual was Ayton, and even that wasn't one of his best games ever. But that Ayton's so unpredictable, 14-13 is a " just doing what's expected of him' game.
Maybe extraterrestrial is the wrong word but Book and KD played 45 and 44 minutes respectively. The Clippers are able to give Kawhi more rest.

Book hadn’t made 4 threes in a game since March 8th. So while he can score 30+ and has done so in the playoffs, we had to exert a lot of energy to win that game and keep the Clippers at bay.
 

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I am sorry. I watched the clips in slow motion and real time. I would not suspend Draymond at all. Sabonis grabbed his leg. I think Sabonis is more at fault than Green. If I was Green Inwould have done the same thing.

And I am not a fan of Green at all. I do not think the suspension is just. They should have both been ejected. Grabbing a guys leg like that can cause him to fall and a injury too.

Sabonis should be suspended too. That was exactly the outcome that Sabonis was going for.
 
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I agree more with this. Last night was not a bare victory. Paul, Booker and Durant didn't have "extraterrestrial" performance, only "pretty good." Booker scores 38 or more so often that one almost shrugs at it. He's doing only what's expected of him. Same thing for Durant's 25. Even if Booker scored 50, that would be only a "great" game for him. His standards are so high that an "extraterrestrial" performance would be 60 or more.

The one whom I thought played better than usual was Ayton, and even that wasn't one of his best games ever. But that Ayton's so unpredictable, 14-13 is a " just doing what's expected of him' game.
Booker has reached 38 points in a game less than 8% of the time, I'd say it's still pretty special.

Ayton's scoring kept us in the game for a stretch but he still wasn't the DA most of us were hoping we'd see.
 

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I am sorry. I watched the clips in slow motion and real time. I would not suspend Draymond at all. Sabonis grabbed his leg. I think Sabonis is more at fault than Green. If I was Green Inwould have done the same thing.

And I am not a fan of Green at all. I do not think the suspension is just. They should have both been ejected. Grabbing a guys leg like that can cause him to fall and a injury too.
There's a lot of clips available but there's one specific angle that shows clearly that Draymond kicked down forcefully into his chest, you just can't let that go if you're the league especially with such a high volume repeat offender.

Maybe Sabonis should have been kicked out also and perhaps even suspended but nothing excuses Green's obvious attempt to injure Sabonis. If the refs or the league felt that Domantas grabbed his leg purposely to gain an advantage, then they blew the call at the time and again with their after game decision of no further action against Sabonis.
 

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The last game showed that we can BARELY win at home while relying on extraterrestrial performances from our stars and also barely giving them any rest.
This is a gross exaggeration. Book went flamethrower, but it’s nothing we haven’t seen from him before in the playoffs. 10pts above his average is “extraterrestrial” now? KD had under his averages. Ayton had a good rebounding game, but underperformed offensively by 4pts. And Paul had a whopping 16pts. Sorry man, it was a solid game by our team, but certainly not “extraterrestrial.” The only player close to that description is Craig having repeated his production from game 1 to 2, maybe. And we still aren’t getting contributions from anyone on the bench. I suspect that changes to at least a bit more support from someone in future games.
 

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Who usually guarded Westbrook? Leonard is like Kobe Bryant, going to do whatever he wants and the defender can only hope to make him work hard; but Westbrook...perhaps someone else could wear him down. I think Okogie should get a chance to harass Westbrook.

There is no wearing Russ out or down. The guy is tenacious, like a pitbull. He goes at 110% every second he's on the floor. That said it's best for the Suns if he's the one trying to beat us because he can't shoot but he does so with no conscience. Let him continue to jack up shots because there's no way the Clippers can win 3 of 5 going forward with Russ taking 20+ shots a night, especially if a good portion are 3's.
 

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Maybe extraterrestrial is the wrong word but Book and KD played 45 and 44 minutes respectively. The Clippers are able to give Kawhi more rest.

Book hadn’t made 4 threes in a game since March 8th. So while he can score 30+ and has done so in the playoffs, we had to exert a lot of energy to win that game and keep the Clippers at bay.
No doubt the minutes are Herculean for book and KD. That said I think it’s more of a strain on kahwi to play 39. That dude likes his rest.
 

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I am sorry. I watched the clips in slow motion and real time. I would not suspend Draymond at all. Sabonis grabbed his leg. I think Sabonis is more at fault than Green. If I was Green Inwould have done the same thing.

And I am not a fan of Green at all. I do not think the suspension is just. They should have both been ejected. Grabbing a guys leg like that can cause him to fall and a injury too.

Sabonis should be suspended too. That was exactly the outcome that Sabonis was going for.
There are degrees of severity and there are previous acts to consider. There’s no comparison of these two acts in either.
 

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Conceded. Just because of Green's history, the league harasses him rather than considering the case for itself.
Lol at the concept that the league “harasses” draymond. He brings it on himself and gets away with more than a lot of other players would. Obviously the league hasn’t harassed him enough because he keeps doing this stuff.

If that were book he did this to this board would have torches and pitchforks out and calling for blood.
 
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