2023 NBA Playoffs - Other Teams

[Phrazbit]

These Grizzlies jerseys give off "early 90s band T-shirt" vibes.

Like... a bad local band.

 

[Russ Smith]

Man Dillon Brooks is just stupid. You're up big, the LAST thing you want to be doing is taunting LeBron. The Lakers didn't show up today, the last thing you want to do is wake up LeBron.

 

[ajcardfan]

Man Dillon Brooks is just stupid. You're up big, the LAST thing you want to be doing is taunting LeBron. The Lakers didn't show up today, the last thing you want to do is wake up LeBron.

Meh. LeBron ain't all that anymore.

Now, two days of how this is the greatest loss by a team in playoff history. And the Lakers are now a lock for the title because LeBron got his whee whee flicked. And he will be MAD! Lol.

 

[95pro]

Minny has no chance

KAT is awful. Anderson just needs the ball less and Ant needs it more.

 

[Russ Smith]

Meh. LeBron ain't all that anymore.

Now, two days of how this is the greatest loss by a team in playoff history. And the Lakers are now a lock for the title because LeBron got his whee whee flicked. And he will be MAD! Lol.

29 8 and 7 at any age is remarkable, at his age, very remarkable. and efficient 50% overall from the floor despite only 32 from 3.

The game got as close as I think 5 points, Memphis won but it got closer than it needed to.

 

[AzStevenCal]

29 8 and 7 at any age is remarkable, at his age, very remarkable. and efficient 50% overall from the floor despite only 32 from 3.

The game got as close as I think 5 points, Memphis won but it got closer than it needed to.

Not to take anything away from Lebron's incredible offensive stats but this Memphis team is missing 2 starters and a key sub. They just aren't the same without those three guys. Still good, but very beatable IMO.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not to take anything away from Lebron's incredible offensive stats but this Memphis team is missing 2 starters and a key sub. They just aren't the same without those three guys. Still good, but very beatable IMO.

Oh I agree they don't have Ja, Adams or Clarke. What I'm saying is Dillon should have just kept his mouth shut, let the Lakers sleepwalk and they get an easy win. My suspicion is the Lakers will be fired up at home.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I’d fine sabonis for the grab. But I’d still suspend green for three games. The punishment has to be great enough for these antics to stop. Obviously one game playoff suspensions for green hasn’t accomplished that. Have to take history into account. I think suspensions should be delivered as deterrence, not as punitive. Hence the more you do this stuff and keep doing it, the more the suspension has to elevate until you realize, I gotta stop doing stupid/dangerous stuff. Green and Beverly should undeniably be at 3 game minimum suspensions.

I obviously am all by myself in my opinion on this, so I must be wrong. I just see Sabonis flopping, which is dangerous in itself, then grabbing Greens legs, which is dangerous and provoking. Green responded wrongly, but Sabonis was just as wrong IMO.

Of course, I am looking at this situation in isolation, not looking at Green as a repeat offender.

I do think Sabonis accomplished exactly what he intended to accomplish. He provoked Green and got him to respond. I hate flopping, and I hate that kind of play.

 

[Russ Smith]

I obviously am all by myself in my opinion on this, so I must be wrong. I just see Sabonis flopping, which is dangerous in itself, then grabbing Greens legs, which is dangerous and provoking. Green responded wrongly, but Sabonis was just as wrong IMO.

Of course, I am looking at this situation in isolation, not looking at Green as a repeat offender.

I do think Sabonis accomplished exactly what he intended to accomplish. He provoked Green and got him to respond. I hate flopping, and I hate that kind of play.

FWIW JJ Redick went on a long rant about it today. he's furious he said the refs are helping Sacramento in the series by allowing so much contact on Steph Curry. He said as a shooter myself I know that the rules are you can't impede the free progress of the guy but the Kings are just hammering Curry over and over off the ball and they're not calling fouls.

Then he went off on the Sabonis thing he said they should have fined him multiple times for flops already. It's clear the Kings came into the series trying to bait Green into losing his temper and it worked. He cited the play where Draymond falling out of bounds threw the ball in to a teammate and then Sabonis, in JJ's words, "hit him with an elbow ran into him, fell down flailed and they called a foul on Green." Then they had to challenge it to get it overturned which cost them their challenge. then later in the game up 1 point the Kings missed and right as Looney is going to get the board, Sabonis shoves him in the back with 2 hands gets the rebound and scores. JJ said "it's a foul. A foul is a foul you can't let stuff like that go it materially impacted the game."

I have only seen 6 minutes total of the 2 game so I have no idea if he's right or not but he was quite clear he thinks the Kings were more interested in baiting Green into things than just playing and he wondered if they were going to be able to turn that off in game 3 with Draymond suspended.

 

[ajcardfan]

I obviously am all by myself in my opinion on this, so I must be wrong. I just see Sabonis flopping, which is dangerous in itself, then grabbing Greens legs, which is dangerous and provoking. Green responded wrongly, but Sabonis was just as wrong IMO.

Of course, I am looking at this situation in isolation, not looking at Green as a repeat offender.

I do think Sabonis accomplished exactly what he intended to accomplish. He provoked Green and got him to respond. I hate flopping, and I hate that kind of play.

When you are intense into a game the athlete is not "intending" anything. It's just instinct and reaction. There is no time to think something like that through.

JMHO

I don't have any skin in the debate. I really don't care who got suspended or not. There is way too much talk about it. Why is no one noticing the Kings have just been better? That should be the talk. They are exciting to watch.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

KAT just hit his 1st bucket….oof

 

[ajcardfan]

FWIW JJ Redick went on a long rant about it today. he's furious he said the refs are helping Sacramento in the series by allowing so much contact on Steph Curry. He said as a shooter myself I know that the rules are you can't impede the free progress of the guy but the Kings are just hammering Curry over and over off the ball and they're not calling fouls.

Then he went off on the Sabonis thing he said they should have fined him multiple times for flops already. It's clear the Kings came into the series trying to bait Green into losing his temper and it worked. He cited the play where Draymond falling out of bounds threw the ball in to a teammate and then Sabonis, in JJ's words, "hit him with an elbow ran into him, fell down flailed and they called a foul on Green." Then they had to challenge it to get it overturned which cost them their challenge. then later in the game up 1 point the Kings missed and right as Looney is going to get the board, Sabonis shoves him in the back with 2 hands gets the rebound and scores. JJ said "it's a foul. A foul is a foul you can't let stuff like that go it materially impacted the game."

I have only seen 6 minutes total of the 2 game so I have no idea if he's right or not but he was quite clear he thinks the Kings were more interested in baiting Green into things than just playing and he wondered if they were going to be able to turn that off in game 3 with Draymond suspended.

The refs are helping the Kings? Really? Why would they do that? So huge stars go out of the playoffs early?

I change the channel right there.

 

[95pro]

Minny has no chance

KAT is awful. Anderson just needs the ball less and Ant needs it more.

And they go on a run to get within 1.

 

[ajcardfan]

And they go on a run to get within 1.

Keep up the good work and they might win!

 

[Russ Smith]

The refs are helping the Kings? Really? Why would they do that? So huge stars go out of the playoffs early?

I change the channel right there.

I don't know why but that's what he said.

Again I've seen 6 minutes of the first 2 games so I can't comment on if it's right or not. He has 10 FT's in 2 games which is about what he averages over the season.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Suddenly a great game between Denver and Minnesota

 

[Russ Smith]

my goodness ANT is good.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't know why but that's what he said.

Again I've seen 6 minutes of the first 2 games so I can't comment on if it's right or not. He has 10 FT's in 2 games which is about what he averages over the season.

There is no doubt in my mind you can roll through video and find similar plays by Green. Guess he needs something to talk about and make it edgy.

 

[Russ Smith]

There is no doubt in my mind you can roll through video and find similar plays by Green. Guess he needs something to talk about and make it edgy.

Well it's JJ Redick he spent his entire career running off screens to shoot jumpers so I think he has a personal gripe with refs who allow defenses to grab shooters because of how he played himself.

 

[clyde2tw]

FWIW JJ Redick went on a long rant about it today. he's furious he said the refs are helping Sacramento in the series by allowing so much contact on Steph Curry. He said as a shooter myself I know that the rules are you can't impede the free progress of the guy but the Kings are just hammering Curry over and over off the ball and they're not calling fouls.

Then he went off on the Sabonis thing he said they should have fined him multiple times for flops already. It's clear the Kings came into the series trying to bait Green into losing his temper and it worked. He cited the play where Draymond falling out of bounds threw the ball in to a teammate and then Sabonis, in JJ's words, "hit him with an elbow ran into him, fell down flailed and they called a foul on Green." Then they had to challenge it to get it overturned which cost them their challenge. then later in the game up 1 point the Kings missed and right as Looney is going to get the board, Sabonis shoves him in the back with 2 hands gets the rebound and scores. JJ said "it's a foul. A foul is a foul you can't let stuff like that go it materially impacted the game."

I have only seen 6 minutes total of the 2 game so I have no idea if he's right or not but he was quite clear he thinks the Kings were more interested in baiting Green into things than just playing and he wondered if they were going to be able to turn that off in game 3 with Draymond suspended.

From what I can see, the refs no longer call foul on body contact on each drive in the playoffs. By this standard, Reeves wouldn't have shot over 20 FTs as he got against the Suns. It's kinda good for Suns because such contacts on Booker weren't called anyways.

 

[Phrazbit]

Imma throw this out there...

As a power forward, KAT isn't even close to the top 15 at the position. Terrible defense, middling shooting... just not an impact player at all.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Domantas Sabonis is questionable for game 3 against the Warriors.

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Not buying that

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

My issue is Sabonis should be fined. The NBA has a rule that allows them to fine you for flopping if they see it later on tape. In the same game a few minutes earlier he misses a driving shot, goes out of bounds. Draymond gets the rebound saves it to a teammate and while falling out of bounds backwards, Sabonis runs into Draymond, throws his hands up and falls forward face down and immediately flails at the ref who calls a foul on Draymond. Kerr challenged it, the refs watched it and immediately overturned it said it was incidental contact. two minutes later they were unable to challenge a clearly bad call because they'd used the challenge on the Sabonis flop.

It wasn't a "blatant" flop but given everything else in the series involving Sabonis, IMO they should have fined him for that flop. Not suspended, not a T, but a fine.

Does that rule still exist? I thought they did away with it or just decided not to enforce. When’s the last time you heard a flop fine? Been years.

 

[Phrazbit]

Sabonis did get called for a T on the play.

 

[Russ Smith]

Does that rule still exist? I thought they did away with it or just decided not to enforce. When’s the last time you heard a flop fine? Been years.

I was trying to find that exact info but don't seem to find anything that says for sure