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Colin explains why the Suns need to sign Draymond for Next season...

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I am not completely opposed to the idea, as long as he would play for the vet min. That's about all we could offer, and all I would be willing to offer.
 
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I am not completely opposed to the idea, as long as he would play for the vet min. That's about all we could offer, and all I would be willing to offer.
Two things. One he won't play for minimum. He has made it pretty clear he is looking for some money either from GS or somewhere else. Second, Monty can't handle him. Evidently, the reason why we moved on from both McGee and Crowder is because Monty found their personalities difficult to manage. If he can't handle them? No way he can handle Draymond.
 

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This is the still action before Draymond did the stomp that should get him suspended.

Sabonis is now claiming he was grabbing the foot so that Draymond wouldn't step on him which is ridiculous, look at the left foot is partially under Sabonis and the right foot is being grabbed, with both arms.

100% suspend Green I think what's being argued here is that Sabonis, twice in this game, caused a situation that got a T on Green(one overturned) by simply faking a collision once and instigating the other.

Greens' reaction should get him suspended, but Sabonis should be fined.
 

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This is the still action before Draymond did the stomp that should get him suspended.

Sabonis is now claiming he was grabbing the foot so that Draymond wouldn't step on him which is ridiculous, look at the left foot is partially under Sabonis and the right foot is being grabbed, with both arms.

100% suspend Green I think what's being argued here is that Sabonis, twice in this game, caused a situation that got a T on Green(one overturned) by simply faking a collision once and instigating the other.

Greens' reaction should get him suspended, but Sabonis should be fined.
That's a very damning photo. But if you watch it at normal speed or in slow motion, it tells a completely different story IMO.
 

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That's a very damning photo. But if you watch it at normal speed or in slow motion, it tells a completely different story IMO.
yeah again Draymond should get suspended. But what caused him to react like that is what's shown in the photo and again Sabonis is NOT grabbing him to avoid getting stepped on, that's not even an issue at this point he's grabbing Draymond, to stop him from running.

Which is why the refs called him for a flagrant.
 

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yeah again Draymond should get suspended. But what caused him to react like that is what's shown in the photo and again Sabonis is NOT grabbing him to avoid getting stepped on, that's not even an issue at this point he's grabbing Draymond, to stop him from running.

Which is why the refs called him for a flagrant.
I disagree but I'll agree that it's difficult to gauge intent sitting at home looking at video. And they didn't call Sabonis for a flagrant, it was a non-flagrant technical unless something's been changed since last night.
 

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The Knicks look like they've never played a game together.

14 turnovers before the half.
 

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Two things. One he won't play for minimum. He has made it pretty clear he is looking for some money either from GS or somewhere else. Second, Monty can't handle him. Evidently, the reason why we moved on from both McGee and Crowder is because Monty found their personalities difficult to manage. If he can't handle them? No way he can handle Draymond.
Yeah, that's quite possibly true. But if he was making the minimum cutting him at any point would not be an issue.
 

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I am not completely opposed to the idea, as long as he would play for the vet min. That's about all we could offer, and all I would be willing to offer.

There is not much daylight between Patrick Beverley and Draymond Green. I don't want part of either on the Suns.
 

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Green has been hugely important to the Warriors success but I think he's going to be a mess at this next destination.

The Warriors have been extremely patient with him over the years but the next team who has him won't have 4 rings to make themselves feel better about dealing with all his bull.
 

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I think it warrants more than a 1 game suspension with the addition of his display towards the crowd but the NBA tends to be overly lenient IMO.

Regardless of whether Sabonis grabbed his legs, Green not only stomped on his chest but looked like he tried to stomp on one of his legs as well, both of which could have caused severe injury.
Yeah if I were commissioner that would warrant a three suspension. Playoffs or no. He stomps on him and then makes sure to get all his weight on one leg on him, flexes and then launches off him. That’s dangerous, purposeful, and frankly is an assault.
 

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This is on my FB feed, Sabonis is talking about this being dangerous for the game. Again I agree what Draymond did IMO is worthy of a suspension but what happened was initiated by Sabonis grabbing the leg. If he doesn't grab the leg nothing happens and this was after the earlier "incident" where he ran into Draymond trying to get back inbounds and started flailing drawing a flagrant on Green that was overturned on appeal when the refs saw that Draymond hadn't done anything, Sabonis just ran into him and then acted.

The problem there was not that long after there was a play the Warriors wanted to appeal but couldn't because they had to use the appeal to get that first flop by Sabonis overturned.

My guess is if the refs review this whole sequence in the 4th quarter they will probably NOT suspend Draymond. He's clearly got a history of this but it's going to look like Sabonis is trying to draw a call that's not actually happening

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I’d fine sabonis for the grab. But I’d still suspend green for three games. The punishment has to be great enough for these antics to stop. Obviously one game playoff suspensions for green hasn’t accomplished that. Have to take history into account. I think suspensions should be delivered as deterrence, not as punitive. Hence the more you do this stuff and keep doing it, the more the suspension has to elevate until you realize, I gotta stop doing stupid/dangerous stuff. Green and Beverly should undeniably be at 3 game minimum suspensions.
 

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I didn't say it warranted it I said the stomp by Draymond happened because Sabonis grabbed his foot. He wasn't intentionally walking over Sabonis or anything like that. Sabonis got knocked into draymond and fell and then grabbed the leg. Klay was blocking him out and Sabonis fell down. Draymond was standing to his side, he grabs Draymonds foot and then Draymond steps on him. Absolutely punish Draymond for his reaction but don't blame the play on Draymond when you were the one that grabbed his foot first.

The reaction warrants a possible suspension but that play doesn't happen if Sabonis doesn't first grab the foot

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Man I think sabonis did some wwe acting there after the fact too. Lame.
 

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I don't agree entirely but Damian Lillard said he thinks it was an accident. I disagree but he did make an interesting point, the original foul by Sabonis could have and maybe should have been called a take foul.
Lol. Lilliard is an idiot then.
 

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Man I think sabonis did some wwe acting there after the fact too. Lame.
I didn't think so at the time but then 5 minutes later he's walking and playing as if nothing happened. Oh well, Lebron's been doing it for years, no shock that others are getting into the act(ing).
 

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I didn't think so at the time but then 5 minutes later he's walking and playing as if nothing happened. Oh well, Lebron's been doing it for years, no shock that others are getting into the act(ing).

The Suns could learn to do more of it as well in the modern NBA, not that I agree with the strategy, but sadly it works.
 

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Sabonis wasn't just grabbing someone so they wouldn't step on him. He grabbed the leg so the opposing player could not easily join a fast break the other way. Should have been a whistle and a foul called immediately. Because there wasn't, Green forced his way apart from him. I think a lot of acting was done by Sabonis afterward. You'd think he was shot the way he laid on the ground for so long.
Lol you think green did that bc there wasn’t a whistle in the split second between the grab and the stomp. Lol. Okay.
 
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