I am done listening to Ayton talk as well. He has done that since he came into the league. I am still laughing at his DominAyton comments. Talk is cheap. The only thing that is going to change minds about Ayton is what he does on the court. Monty definitely played a role with player relationship issues. There is zero doubt of that. You seem to be indicating that everyone is putting all the blame on Monty.
No one here is predicting Ayton will become something he hasn't been. Many of us are clinging to hope because the best thing that can happen to this team is for DA to do a 180 and become the player we hoped we drafted. It's a longshot, a very longshot but trading him for anywhere close to top pick value is an even greater longshot. And trading him for trash or even mediocrity doesn't help us win a championship.
I actually hope Ayton does a 180 too - as it could be the difference between an actual ring or just another disappointment - but like I said when someone tells you who they are you should believe them
This. I don't think any of us are predicting that Ayton is going to be a superstar just because he says so. I don't think most people are cheering for Ayton to fail. We need him to be that player and hope he can because it helps our title hopes.
We're talking about Ayton's performance issues - not how to get rid of him - but if I were looking to get rid of him I'd try and do it with a sign and trade with another team - problem is nobody wants Ayton at $33 million a year
Yessir, I'd personally like to get rid of him, period. Sign and trade would be the most beneficial for the team
I think we all agree with the sentiment if he doesn't improve just not your end result. You mentioned trading him just to get rid of him and getting rid of him period. I think that's where we all diverge from you. I don't think most of us here would be sad if we could trade him and get a legit big in return. We absolutely can't just get rid of him for garbage just to get rid of him. It hurts this team more than keeping him.
Teams could decide to rebuild, trade guys in salary matches, think they could do better with your player's etc. It could all change on a dime at any point. No market now doesn't mean no market later. The Suns just are not stupid enough to dump Ayton just to dump him. Seems like all the Suns latest moves are all around value (minus the salary dump for Payne).
If you are looking at the overall quality of the roster, and not worrying about money, this post is exactly true. And since Ishbia is more interested in winning than money, it makes no sense to cut Ayton or trade him for less than value. He is a quality player regardless of whether or not he meets the expectations of a first overall pick.
I mean he can change the narrative pretty damn quickly, but it’s all on him. It’s not rocket science.
So now the good Shawn only lets the bad Shawn out on ASFN to fight with people who are critical of monty?
Ayton ignored each of them - and their attempts at motivating him - during crunch time
But what if it's good Shawn that's taking up for Monty?
Then he needs to lay off the peyote.
Yeah. He does look different. Maybe he requested a trade and was shocked to see that no one really wanted him. That would be a wake-up call.
You can insinuate whatever mean spirited trash you want to my man - it's getting kinda tired tho
The board was highly complimentary of DA throughout most of the playoffs that season.
