2024 3rd round pick #66 is Trey Benson RB

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I don't get what y'all see in this guy. I didn't watch him at FSU, but he hasn't shown any outstanding traits has a pro, including when he was up against practice squadders and CrossFit trainers at the end of preseason games.

2.6 YPC against Duke. 3.7 YPC against North Alabama. 3.2 YPC against Boston College. Okay.

Looked nothing more than above-average to me at FSU. NFL talent but third rd was a reach for RB given our holes on the DL.
 

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I don't get what y'all see in this guy. I didn't watch him at FSU, but he hasn't shown any outstanding traits has a pro, including when he was up against practice squadders and CrossFit trainers at the end of preseason games.

2.6 YPC against Duke. 3.7 YPC against North Alabama. 3.2 YPC against Boston College. Okay.

Hard to judge him on single game numbers because who's he running behind? What FSU O linemen have made it to the NFL?

D'Mitri Emmanuel, Jeremiah Byers, Casey Roddick, Maurice Smith, Darius Washington and Robert Scott Jr are all current or future farmers/insurance salesmen.

He did have a lot of good traits and a lot of people considered him the best RB in the class.

But also it's a meritocracy and he should earn his spot, and he hasn't shown anything at RB2. Both Emari and Carter should be getting more snaps than him for now.
 

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Better play him as much as possible.

After this weeks performance by JC he might not have another high performance season left in him.
 

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Yeah...same issues in the NFL that he had in college. He is currently 5th in the rookie class in rushing yards. His 1.9 yards per attempt is the worst. Hopefully he figures it out but lots of talented college RBs don't make it because they have terrible rushing instincts and can't improve.
 

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Might as well play him this season, as we aren't making the playoffs. Get him blooded and see if he is the future at the position.
 

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Hard to judge him on single game numbers because who's he running behind? What FSU O linemen have made it to the NFL?

D'Mitri Emmanuel, Jeremiah Byers, Casey Roddick, Maurice Smith, Darius Washington and Robert Scott Jr are all current or future farmers/insurance salesmen.

He did have a lot of good traits and a lot of people considered him the best RB in the class.

But also it's a meritocracy and he should earn his spot, and he hasn't shown anything at RB2. Both Emari and Carter should be getting more snaps than him for now.
This is not a serious post. Few college programs have one NFL player on their OL, much less five. FSU had an undefeated season and Trey Benson came along for the ride.

It’s a third round pick; take big swings. If he works out it’s a great value. But no one should be surprised that a guy who couldn’t earn regular time in college can’t earn regular time in the NFL.
 

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If Benson was considered the best back in the draft it doesn’t say much for that group. Not impressed at this point.
Full disclosure...many had Brooks as the best back but he was coming off major injury. It wasn't a great RB class, and I do think Benson showed big play ability in a large frame, but he never got a large workload and his instincts were questioned. IMO, RB is one of those positions like QB, CB and ILB were a lack of instincts can significantly hinder top-end talent.
 

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Benson has been hesitant. He’s probably like most rookies and trying for the home run every play instead of taking what’s there.
He might turn out to be nothing but this criticism is really ridiculous.
He’s playing behind a workhorse RB in a new system and adjusting to NFL speed.
Most RBs get better when they get into a groove and get more carries.
The guy has played 3 games with minimal carries. Nobody can have any informed opinion on him.
He wasn’t drafted to be the bell cow back this year. At least wait until week 9-10 when Connor is dinged and he gets 1st team reps in practice and is part of the game plan.
 

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Benson has been hesitant. He’s probably like most rookies and trying for the home run every play instead of taking what’s there.
He might turn out to be nothing but this criticism is really ridiculous.
He’s playing behind a workhorse RB in a new system and adjusting to NFL speed.
Most RBs get better when they get into a groove and get more carries.
The guy has played 3 games with minimal carries. Nobody can have any informed opinion on him.
He wasn’t drafted to be the bell cow back this year. At least wait until week 9-10 when Connor is dinged and he gets 1st team reps in practice and is part of the game plan.

I mean that's all fine Cbus, and I generally agree with you, but we're trying to win games, and there are a couple of pretty decent backs behind him that are not getting carries because Benson is.

I'm pulling for the kid. Big time. But we need production from the RB2 spot now. Like right now.

He needs to improve immediately, or I would start rotating in Demercado or Carter, and I wouldn't think twice about it.
 

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Carter has to be a better option right now - I appreciate trying to work the kid in, but shouldn't we be more focused on winning at this point?
Carters not even listed as top 4 on the depth chart. What makes him a better option?

Benson is #2. I’m almost 100% positive he’s earned that designation and it wasn’t just handed to him.
 

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Carters not even listed as top 4 on the depth chart. What makes him a better option?

Benson is #2. I’m almost 100% positive he’s earned that designation and it wasn’t just handed to him.
Neither Benson or Carter play on special teams or in 3rd down passing packages. Which is why Dallas and Demercado are the 3rd and 4th string backs. So, if you have a back whose main role is to spell carries from Conner then it's a logical discussion. Carter has rushed for over 100 yards in an NFL game. In the little bit of action he has had here in Arizona he has flashed.

There's the argument for Carter in the SHORT term.
 

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Carters not even listed as top 4 on the depth chart. What makes him a better option?

Benson is #2. I’m almost 100% positive he’s earned that designation and it wasn’t just handed to him.
Exactly. It’s all fine and dandy that we all have our opinions, but JG hasn’t been a coach who hands out playing time without that player having earned it. That would fly in the face of everything he stands for.
 

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Neither Benson or Carter play on special teams or in 3rd down passing packages. Which is why Dallas and Demercado are the 3rd and 4th string backs. So, if you have a back whose main role is to spell carries from Conner then it's a logical discussion. Carter has rushed for over 100 yards in an NFL game. In the little bit of action he has had here in Arizona he has flashed.

There's the argument for Carter in the SHORT term.

Also cutting them didn’t save $3m bucks.
 

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This is not a serious post. Few college programs have one NFL player on their OL, much less five. FSU had an undefeated season and Trey Benson came along for the ride.

It’s a third round pick; take big swings. If he works out it’s a great value. But no one should be surprised that a guy who couldn’t earn regular time in college can’t earn regular time in the NFL.


Cmon that makes literally no sense. He led FSU in attempts, the 2nd most attempts was by the QB. He was their #1 RB for 2 years..

His college career, redshirted as freshman at Oregon during Covid year. Then had the knee injury after 6 carries at Oregon, essentially rehabbed the whole year and played the next year at FSU.

If being the leading rusher in yards and carries isn't "regular time" I don't know what is?

He hasn't looked very good so far, it's early.
 

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Cmon that makes literally no sense. He led FSU in attempts, the 2nd most attempts was by the QB. He was their #1 RB for 2 years..

His college career, redshirted as freshman at Oregon during Covid year. Then had the knee injury after 6 carries at Oregon, essentially rehabbed the whole year and played the next year at FSU.

If being the leading rusher in yards and carries isn't "regular time" I don't know what is?

He hasn't looked very good so far, it's early.
The most interesting thing, IMO, is Bucky Irving looks great and is the RB who transferred to Oregon in 2022 when Benson transferred out.
 

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According to this board. Go back to 2022...at least two threads about the subject plus many other posts.

Same with Benson. Give the dude some time.
This is a smear. People were asking why he couldn't get time instead of/alongside an obviously washed Zach Ertz. These questions were asked until October when he started playing.
 

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The most interesting thing, IMO, is Bucky Irving looks great and is the RB who transferred to Oregon in 2022 when Benson transferred out.


Benson was I think the 3rd or 4th rated RB in his class in HS. The problem he had at Oregon was his freshman year they had a veteran starter, and they also had another kid who was the 2nd rated RB in an earlier class, Travis Dye, who's in the NFL now. So they were stacked at RB they had 2 upper classmen ahead of him in CJ Verdell and Travis Dye, with the uncertainty about PT they redshirted him. Then 2020 was Covid, and when he did play, he tore up the knee.

I don't think he transferred out to avoid competition he wanted a fresh start being at Oregon just hadn't worked for him.

Had 2 terrific years at FSU, I don't think people get he got hurt Dec 1 2020 and was back playing in Sep of 2021, 9 months later he had a multiple ligament tear knee injury his recovery was pretty amazing.

The book on him has always been he lacks patience he'll run into his blockers, he won't wait to set up the block etc. If that's always the case then yeah he probably won't be very good, but he showed improvement on that in college when he got regular carries.

I saw something yesterday in his 2 years at FSU he either broke or caused a missed tackle on 40% of his runs. That was the highest number of any RB they've recorded since they started keeping that stat.

But so far, he has not looked good I fully concede that, it's why I started the thread about needing him to step up
 
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