2024 Draft Countdown/NFL Prospects thread

[RON_IN_OC]

I agree with a lot of this. Mahomes was making plays like this at Texas Tech because his supporting cast was not very good. Caleb is doing this with one of the most talented rosters in college football. That doesn't translate to the NFL and like Kyler, he is not going to go to a team that will allow him to do this at the NFL level.

Draft Drake Maye.

That's why I made the comment earlier, when it was mentioned that Williams wasn't talking to the press and seemed to be frustrated possibly with coaches.. it's because he's playing unnecessary hero ball, instead of playing within the framework of the offense.

 

[football karma]

in general: looking forward to the more normal schedule coming up

Caleb Williams running it up on Nevada comes with an asterix

 

[TheCardFan]

It's not even close to the same situation.

Why?

 

[Ronin]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Why?

Mahomes didn't have a ton of heat coming into that draft, outside of what a few coaches and GMs saw in him (Reid and Keim).

 

[RON_IN_OC]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Not the best stats, but at least he played against a legit team...no cupcake warm up games.

 

[Garthshort]

Does anyone know how many, if any changes in the Scouting Dept., have taken place since the new regime has come on board?

 

[kerouac9]

Does anyone know how many, if any changes in the Scouting Dept., have taken place since the new regime has come on board?

Very few so far

 

[Ronin]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Mahomes didn't have a ton of heat coming into that draft, outside of what a few coaches and GMs saw in him (Reid and Keim).

This is what I'm talking about @kerouac9 ... A lot of traditional scouts graded him down and this article points out how they got it wrong.

Why Patrick Mahomes fell in the 2017 NFL Draft

Patrick Mahomes once slid out of the top-10 of the 2017 NFL Draft. What did scouts miss?

www.sbnation.com

You must be registered for see images attach

 

[Chopper0080]

Why?

Because Caleb Williams is not Mahomes. Drake Maye will have more than one year of starts under his belt. And, if Maye progresses as he should this year, his tape will be better than Trubisky's.

 

[Chopper0080]

If anything, Drake Maye is closer to Patrick Mahomes (as a prospect) than Caleb Williams is.

 

[Chopper0080]

Drake Maye is the way.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Very few so far

This makes no sense.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Drake Maye is the way.

You must be registered for see images attach

 

[Chopper0080]

You must be registered for see images attach

Oh, we are vibing now.

 

[kerouac9]

This is what I'm talking about @kerouac9 ... A lot of traditional scouts graded him down and this article points out how they got it wrong.

Why Patrick Mahomes fell in the 2017 NFL Draft

Patrick Mahomes once slid out of the top-10 of the 2017 NFL Draft. What did scouts miss?

www.sbnation.com

You must be registered for see images attach

Any top 10 pick has heat.

 

[CardNots]

Drake Maye is the way.

Reminds me of a accurate Josh Allen

 

[TheCardFan]

Because Caleb Williams is not Mahomes. Drake Maye will have more than one year of starts under his belt. And, if Maye progresses as he should this year, his tape will be better than Trubisky's.

Tough to say at this point. Has there been another top rated QB coming out that got Mahomes comps?

He should have better tape than Trubisky, who was a bust. That doesn't change how talent gets evaluated.

TBF - You had Trubisky ahead of Mahomes.

You must be registered for see images attach

 

[GatorAZ]

I agree with a lot of this. Mahomes was making plays like this at Texas Tech because his supporting cast was not very good. Caleb is doing this with one of the most talented rosters in college football. That doesn't translate to the NFL and like Kyler, he is not going to go to a team that will allow him to do this at the NFL level.

Draft Drake Maye.

Maye may end up being the best QB but a 6’2” Kyler definitely translates to the NFL.

 

[DVontel]

Maye may end up being the best QB but a 6’2” Kyler definitely translates to the NFL.

You know colleges love to exaggerate their athletes’ frame & it shows he’s 6’1 from everywhere I’ve looked.

 

[Chopper0080]

Tough to say at this point. Has there been another top rated QB coming out that got Mahomes comps?

He should have better tape than Trubisky, who was a bust. That doesn't change how talent gets evaluated.

TBF - You had Trubisky ahead of Mahomes.

You must be registered for see images attach

Yes, that was my best guess on what "would" happen. Not what I would do. That is why I stated in that post, "this is my best guess on what will happen:.

 

[Chopper0080]

Maye may end up being the best QB but a 6’2” Kyler definitely translates to the NFL.

I personally disagree, but I have stated that I don't believe Kyler is capable of leading a team to a Super Bowl unless he significantly improved in areas which I didn't think he could. I view Kyler (to this point) as empty calories. He can win regular season games but not big, post-season ones.

 

[Chopper0080]

Tough to say at this point. Has there been another top rated QB coming out that got Mahomes comps?

He should have better tape than Trubisky, who was a bust. That doesn't change how talent gets evaluated.

TBF - You had Trubisky ahead of Mahomes.

You must be registered for see images attach

Trubisky had good college tape for one season, which ended up being part of the problem similar to Kyler. It is rare an athlete can learn to be a QB at the NFL level. Experience at the college level should count for a lot more than it does.

The issue with Caleb is that what he is being credited for doesn't translate to the NFL. It is very tough to consistently win with a QB who plays outside of offensive structure. Caleb wow plays are just that. He is not making tight window throws. Hanging in the pocket under pressure. He is not making throws with defenders at his feet. He is not playing with timing and rhythm. Those are what works at the NFL level. The outside of structure stuff can win games at times, but not consistently.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Trubisky had good college tape for one season, which ended up being part of the problem similar to Kyler. It is rare an athlete can learn to be a QB at the NFL level. Experience at the college level should count for a lot more than it does.

The issue with Caleb is that what he is being credited for doesn't translate to the NFL. It is very tough to consistently win with a QB who plays outside of offensive structure. Caleb wow plays are just that. He is not making tight window throws. Hanging in the pocket under pressure. He is not making throws with defenders at his feet. He is not playing with timing and rhythm. Those are what works at the NFL level. The outside of structure stuff can win games at times, but not consistently.

It's like we're sharing a brain now...hahahaha