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Who should we go after? A young player for the future? Another veteran, maybe who can play the inside game? A solid back up point guard? Do any of these players actually exist?

I think at this point, it may be best to wait around and see who becomes available by the trade deadline. Also, to see what this team needs throughout the season(Jahidi White!).
 

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fordronken said:
Who should we go after? A young player for the future? Another veteran, maybe who can play the inside game? A solid back up point guard? Do any of these players actually exist?

I think at this point, it may be best to wait around and see who becomes available by the trade deadline. Also, to see what this team needs throughout the season(Jahidi White!).

We must also have the exception from the Voskuhl trade. I believe it is about 1.9 mil.
 

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sunsfn said:
We must also have the exception from the Voskuhl trade. I believe it is about 1.9 mil.

I thought that was used to get Diaw? That's why we had a 6 million exception to use on Jones.
 

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Chaplin said:
I thought that was used to get Diaw? That's why we had a 6 million exception to use on Jones.

that's right. The Phoenix Suns used Jake Voskuhl's exception to get Diaw. That means that they should have received a trade exception for half of JJ's salary cap value for next season. I thought the first year of his new deal was supposed to be $12.5 million, but it may have been a little bit less. The trade exception should have been $6.1 million or $6.2 million. When you subtract the $2.4 million of that trade exception they just used for James Jones that should leave $3.7 million for a little more.

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Chaplin said:
I thought that was used to get Diaw? That's why we had a 6 million exception to use on Jones.

I knew that, it must be too early in the am for me to post...........:shrug:
 

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It is not too early however, for me to want to use the exception on a shot blocker....:)
 

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I would think the Suns would hold on to this trade exception now until the middle of the season or the trading deadline. Last year's manuever to Jim Jackson paid off when they added someone who would complement the team they had. The bench was the weakness last year, if shot blocking is a weakness through the season that is when a deal could be done.

Sorry to say but JJ2 might be the player to be moved at time, he is the only player remaining with an expiring contract and coupled with the TE he will be the most marketable player at that time.
 
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I think we should keep it for the middle of the season as well. We may be able to understand holes that we need to fill after a half season or so pf playing with this team. If there is a need, chances are we will know by then if we need to fill it, or if everything is working well.
 

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What is Speedy Claxton's contract like? It says $3.6 Million but for only 1 more year? He signed with a Team for only 2 years? So I'm not sure, if he'd want to be a back-up for a few years but if he has a multi-year contract and the Suns need a PG - I wouldn't mind him...


Chris Mihm would've been a F/C that I would've liked at Mid-Season if Kurt Thomas goes down but he's making like $3.7 Mill...


I watched some gamefilm of Claxton :) and I think he could (at a cheap cost) help run team along with Diaw/Barbosa for future or if Nash goes down and the Team needs a PG Mid-Season...

He was 1 of my top choices weeks ago but I had figured the Hornets would re-sign Dickau and wouldn't need 3 PG's, Chris Paul could easily start but not sure if the Team has another PG, if Claxton gets Traded...
 

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elindholm said:
Claxton would be terrific, in my opinion.


Agreed as long as he is healthy. However with Dickau leaving NO probably wants to keep him.

If we lose out on Finley we could also go after Fred Jones. Indiana papers suggest that Pollard, Johnson and Jones are being discussed in trade rumors because the team wants to get closer to the luxury tax threshhold. So part of the trade exception and some sort of pick could probably land him.
 

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Pollard would be great if he didn't make 6.2 a year. Although, his contract does expire after this year. Hasn't he had injury problems lately?
 

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Hasn't he had injury problems lately?

He had major injury problems two or three years ago. His main problem last year was that he was woefully out of shape. I saw him on television a few times and it was really embarrassing. I'd say he's put on at least 40 pounds since his glory days with the Kings.

He's really not an option at this point.
 

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coloradosun said:
I would think the Suns would hold on to this trade exception now until the middle of the season or the trading deadline. Last year's manuever to Jim Jackson paid off when they added someone who would complement the team they had. The bench was the weakness last year, if shot blocking is a weakness through the season that is when a deal could be done.

Sorry to say but JJ2 might be the player to be moved at time, he is the only player remaining with an expiring contract and coupled with the TE he will be the most marketable player at that time.


this is EXACTLY what i see shaping up.
 
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I wouldn't be totally opposed to finding a young player with potential and using the Boston/Lakers pick to pry them away. The way I look at, if there's a player you see who you'd be excited to find with a pick in the 10-16 range, make the trade. Someone like Michael Sweetney comes to mind, though I doubt Thomas would make that trade.
 

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fordronken said:
I wouldn't be totally opposed to finding a young player with potential and using the Boston/Lakers pick to pry them away. The way I look at, if there's a player you see who you'd be excited to find with a pick in the 10-16 range, make the trade. Someone like Michael Sweetney comes to mind, though I doubt Thomas would make that trade.


At the deadline it might be possible to get Fred Jones. Indy wants to cut salary, and they won't want to pay him a lot next summer with Jax ahead of him.

They may ask for Jimmy back instead of the TE though so it doesn't affect their playoff run.
 
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At the deadline it might be possible to get Fred Jones. Indy wants to cut salary, and they won't want to pay him a lot next summer with Jax ahead of him.

They may ask for Jimmy back instead of the TE though so it doesn't affect their playoff run.

If we're gonna use a pick and get a young guy, at this point, unless it's somebody that I'm really high on(like J.R. Smith), I'd prefer it be for somebody at least as big as a forward. Although an heir-apparent for Nash would be welcome as well(maybe a rookie who isn't playing as well as the team would like-- Felton or Deron Williams in a magical world, and could be traded for our two good first rounders).
 

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How about this: lol


Maciej Lampe

for

Leandro Barbosa
2nd Rounder or Cash

and

Speedy Claxton

for

Trade Exception
1st Rounder


??
 

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Amare Stoudemire F/C
Shawn Marion F
Raja Bell SG


Speedy Claxton PG

James Jones F
Boris Diaw G/F

Maciej Lampe F/C
Dijon Thompson G/F

Lucas Tischer F/C


Nearly every youngster there, is athletic, etc. G/F would be set for years; Marion, Bell, Jones, Diaw, Thompson, etc... PG would be set for years, with Claxton and Diaw (I'm looking down road, Nash is obviously going to be starting for at least a few more years)... and at the bigs: Stoudemire, Lampe, Tischer, Marion, Jones, etc...


I should've looked at my own Draft List to see, what kind of Prospect would be available in Draft but KT and Nash will be around for years, I guess it all depends on which Pick the Team would Trade for Claxton...


I possible see a lot of Steven Hunter shot-blocking type of centers available with Mid-Round Pick or possibly even Phoenix' own:

Sheldin Williams PF Duke
Tiago Splitter F/C Brazil
LaMarcus Aldridge C Texas
Sean Williams PF Boston College
Jermareo Davidson C Alabama
Pops Mensah-Bonsu F/C George Washington
Courtney Sims C Michigan
Martin Iti F/C Charlotte
Torin Francis PF Notre Dame
Jason Frasser PF Villanova


etc. I can't find too many looking at book, but if I could see mah Draft List, I'm sure, I could find a few more
 

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i also agree that it is best to wait until the trade deadline and combine a hopefully productive Jjax. the TE, and some draft picks for a big time contributor who could put us over the hump. As ironic as it sounds, health permitting, i think we will be one of the better defending and rebounding teams with our front line starters and backups playing at least at the level they have played at through their career. My one concern is backcourt scoring as Nash is pass first and we all have to see if Finley comes or how Bell and Jackson do with starter minutes.

I think the Suns could really make a go for it mid season and get a Paul Pierce or Peja Stojackovic (with Peja being more likely due to his player option at the end of this year)at the deadline. This sounds crazy but cap wise it could work if we included the right players and it would certainly help with any offensive deficiencies we might have at the time. Remember the garbage Toronto took from New Jersey for a disgruntled VC? No one can say for sure what the effect of losing those shooters will have on our O, but it is safe to assume our interior toughness will go up in large increments. With both players being likely available, and if the Suns think they are just a piece away, they will gladly give up draft picks to make a run.

More than likely the above is a fantasy scenario and we will actually get a decent back up PG or shot blocker. My vote goes to if Jay williams, if proves he is right, and doing a sign and trade with the Bulls. We could possibly only have to use about 2 million of the exception and still have 1.9 in space to still have flexibility. If he returns to half of his collegiate form, he would be an ideal back up. I love the signing of Jones (a very low risk but calculated gamble by the Suns) and maybe acquiring another "yute" such as Tony Allen:) or Gerald Wallace could be had for the 1.9 and a nice pick (ok know im really getting onto fantasy land)

Still the options we have remaining are very attractive. Chances are someone we are expecting to be a contributor is not going to recieve as many minutes for one reason or another and they could end up as possible trade fare as well. Saying all this lets just get Fins, and have a team akin to the 80's Lakers.....(how you like that Brian in Mesa? Nash as Magic, Amare as a younger Kareem, and Shawn Marion as Big Game James Worthy. Vets like KT, Bell, Jjax, and Fins make us a formidable team....... I guess i will lay off the 80's Laker references until we play at least a pre-season game;) But I am starting to get excited and it is still two months away from the season opener......
 

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I like Speedy Claxton as a PG addition.

Jay Williams is a posibility for training camp maybe. He is a FA and would not require a S&T to aquire at this point.


I don't know. I am not sure they should spend that money to aquire a PG but I am not sure what other position the should go for.

A long shot blocker would be nice but they are not that common.
Look how much Hunter got just for showing some potential.
 

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If you guys are looking for a point guard with some good shooting range Speedy Claxton is not your man. Like Diaw, he doesn't even attempt many three-point shots because he knows he's not good at hitting them. Most of his shots are short jumpers and shots at the basket.

I would not be excited about acquiring him for that reason, injury problems, and his price of $3.6 million.

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