300 (Frank Miller)

[Rats]

Uhm, this had a very easy to follow storyline. Confusion about the plot isn't a problem. You can make the argument that it isn't a COMPLEX plot, but don't say it wasn't a storyline you could follow.

Really?? Because out of no where appears this hulking disfigured Spartan and as if no one including the King has ever seen him before he begs to be a Warrior and the King turns him down. Then he explains how he was not cast away, as if in a small place like Sparta he wouldn't be noticed, and the disfigured Oracles and there beauty queen child....what was that??? Terrible writing is what that was. The entire thing was fuzzy. It is so fuzzy I can barely remember the scenes in Sparta past the first one. But I know someone that saw it 4 times will fill it in. Cinemagraphically it was very good. That is about it IMO. And yes it was not COMPLEX.

 

[D-Dogg]

Really?? Because out of no where appears this hulking disfigured Spartan and as if no one including the King has ever seen him before he begs to be a Warrior and the King turns him down. Then he explains how he was not cast away, as if in a small place like Sparta he wouldn't be noticed, and the disfigured Oracles and there beauty queen child....what was that??? Terrible writing is what that was. Cinemagraphically it was very good. That is about it IMO. And yes it was not COMPLEX.

1. He was cast away...taken elsewhere and hidden, and his father trained him. IIRC. And you aren't expected to take him as the real Ephialtes, anyway (as if he were a hunchback discard). Just a weird little turn of story, that was in the graphic novel.

2. You seemed to follow along with it fairly well. You may not have liked the plot, but it was easy to follow along, was it not?

3. The woman is the oracle...and IIRC in history, wasn't the "Oracle" at Delphi some stoned out of her mind chick that the priests translated for?

4. It's based on a freaking graphic novel.

 

[Rats]

1. He was cast away...taken elsewhere and hidden, and his father trained him. IIRC. And you aren't expected to take him as the real Ephialtes, anyway (as if he were a hunchback discard). Just a weird little turn of story, that was in the graphic novel.

2. You seemed to follow along with it fairly well. You may not have liked the plot, but it was easy to follow along, was it not?

3. The woman is the oracle...and IIRC in history, wasn't the "Oracle" at Delphi some stoned out of her mind chick that the priests translated for?

4. It's based on a freaking graphic novel.

Yes, it was....based on a graphic comicbook. I told you why I expected more. I watched HBO first look and they made it seem as though it would be an Epic film not just an Adrenalene romp. Should have stayed home and watched Rome.

 

[D-Dogg]

watched Rome.

that's never a bad choice

 

[Jersey Girl]

I liked it a lot. I thought the sub-plot with the queen and the Spartan senators was unnecessary, but overall it was very good.

I actually liked the subplot. As a chick, I liked seeing what I perceived as a strong woman in this movie.

 

[Chaplin]

Yes, it was....based on a graphic comicbook. I told you why I expected more. I watched HBO first look and they made it seem as though it would be an Epic film not just an Adrenalene romp. Should have stayed home and watched Rome.

You should know that HBO first look isn't the end-all documentary about the film. It is produced for one reason and one reason only--to get people to see the movie. We can argue if what they said was false advertising, but you are taking a 15-minute promo featurette and making it gospel.

But, whatever floats your boat. You didn't like it, that's cool. You just were tricked by what you saw on HBO. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry you weren't entertained by it. It's a guy's movie based on a graphic novel. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Yes, it was....based on a graphic comicbook. I told you why I expected more. I watched HBO first look and they made it seem as though it would be an Epic film not just an Adrenalene romp. Should have stayed home and watched Rome.

Rats needs to spend some quality time with Thelma and Louis and stay away from men movies.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I want to get back to this point.....

Rats, was the movie hard to follow? Seriously?

It's not like watching Memento for the first time as a blind buy or anything.

 

[schwalbhimself]

great movie

 

[Louis]

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[Rats]

I want to get back to this point.....

Rats, was the movie hard to follow? Seriously?

It's not like watching Memento for the first time as a blind buy or anything.

No, not really. There was hardly any acting in it and what there was wasn't very good. But all in all it was just a let down of a film.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You expect acting in a gory action film?

Do you want non stop action when watching a drama?

Do you expect Oscar performances from every movie you see?

Like an earlier poster said, it seemed like the HBO special that you watched, along with previous knowledge of the battle's history has raised your expectations of this movie. It was a guy's movie with non stop violence, and a bit of nudity.

 

[Rats]

You expect acting in a gory action film?

Do you want non stop action when watching a drama?

Do you expect Oscar performances from every movie you see?

Like an earlier poster said, it seemed like the HBO special that you watched, along with previous knowledge of the battle's history has raised your expectations of this movie. It was a guy's movie with non stop violence, and a bit of nudity.

I think I expected it to raise the bar on Troy and Gladiator but it really didn't. They were put together much better IMO. This seemed to hype the Cimematography which was very good but left the substance of a good movie out. No I do not expect Oscar performances from every film. You rarely get that from the Action genre but if this was to be a ground breaking film for adaptation then I would have liked it to also to have some depth to the storyline.

 

[D-Dogg]

You rarely get that from the Action genre but if this was to be a ground breaking film for adaptation then I would have liked it to also to have some depth to the storyline.

They added more than the original graphic novel had to begin with.

 

[Chaplin]

I think I expected it to raise the bar on Troy and Gladiator but it really didn't. They were put together much better IMO. This seemed to hype the Cimematography which was very good but left the substance of a good movie out. No I do not expect Oscar performances from every film. You rarely get that from the Action genre but if this was to be a ground breaking film for adaptation then I would have liked it to also to have some depth to the storyline.

Gladiator, yes. Troy? Come on now. Troy was pretty bad. 300 was much more entertaining.

And it wasn't supposed to be a groundbreaking epic, no matter how much you expected it to be, unfortunately. The groundbreaking part was taking live action and making it a living comic book. It was all about the look of the film and how it was made, which was successful.

 

[FischerKing]

rats - perhaps you should try this: Lowered Expectations

shawn

 

[Rats]

rats - perhaps you should try this: Lowered Expectations

shawn

Thanks....I am good in this department....but knock yourself out

 

[Rats]

Gladiator, yes. Troy? Come on now. Troy was pretty bad. 300 was much more entertaining.

And it wasn't supposed to be a groundbreaking epic, no matter how much you expected it to be, unfortunately. The groundbreaking part was taking live action and making it a living comic book. It was all about the look of the film and how it was made, which was successful.

All that is is an opinion. Just as mine is an opinion of how 300 is. If you re read, I did not say a groundbreaking epic, I said groundbreaking adaptation and Cinematography. Basically what you are saying. And it was like bringing a comic book to life so it was adapted to film well. My opinion is that Troy was more entertaining and had just as much shock value right out of the gate.

 

[Chaplin]

All that is is an opinion. Just as mine is an opinion of how 300 is. If you re read, I did not say a groundbreaking epic, I said groundbreaking adaptation and Cinematography. Basically what you are saying. And it was like bringing a comic book to life so it was adapted to film well. My opinion is that Troy was more entertaining and had just as much shock value right out of the gate.

I think you're confusing "groundbreaking adaptation" with making a movie look like a comic book. There's nothing groundbreaking about adapting a piece of fiction. The cinematography IS groundbreaking, but the rest of the movie really isn't.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Most of you have heard of the Persian outrage about '300'. I have one thing to say 'Were is the Greek outrage?' I mean as cool as the Spartans are/were they were warrior fanatics who kill the weak with no mercy. They took no prisoners by slaughtering the wounded.

Just an observation...

 

[Mulli]

This week my wife said, " Is that a gladiator-type movie? I thought it was a horror movie. I want to see it now."

She rocks.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

This week my wife said, " Is that a gladiator-type movie? I thought it was a horror movie. I want to see it now."

She rocks.

I'm taking my wife tonight. It will be my third time to see it and her first.

 

[Russ Smith]

Most of you have heard of the Persian outrage about '300'. I have one thing to say 'Were is the Greek outrage?' I mean as cool as the Spartans are/were they were warrior fanatics who kill the weak with no mercy. They took no prisoners by slaughtering the wounded.

Just an observation...

Some guy on a USC board I read has a pic in his sig now from the movie of the Spartan army. UCLA fans keep pointing out to him that those are SPARTANS, not TROJANS and that in fact historically there's a dispute if
Trojans even really existed.

He must have got sick of it he finally said "I know they're Spartans, I just liked the movie, give me a break."

 

[Louis]

Taking the wife and sister in law to watch this at the Deer Valley IMAX tomorrow.

 

[D-Dogg]

This week my wife said, " Is that a gladiator-type movie? I thought it was a horror movie. I want to see it now."

She rocks.

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