4th round pick - Logan Thomas QB VT

[Jetstream Green]

I think this kid will pull it off!

I don't think... I know

 

[Buckybird]

I am Dawg now, I'm taking my full UT experience and putting on the hippie flip flops and I will top all of my fellow brothers as the first to say...Thomas IS OUR QB OF THE FUTURE

Hope your right but I wouldn't bet anything on it Texan

 

[Jetstream Green]

I'm broke, and a Cardinal fan for over thirty years... I got some give to screw up and still get some love lol

 

[desertdawg]

I am Dawg now, I'm taking my full UT experience and putting on the hippie flip flops and I will top all of my fellow brothers as the first to say...Thomas IS OUR QB OF THE FUTURE

I make the bodies, I don't erase the bodies. I haven't fip flopped on the thomas wheel of emotion. It was a reach, and the reach seemed even more suspect when it came from Arians school. Keim prides himself on BPA and Logan Thomas was not, and is not BPA when it came to QBs left on the board at that time. Arians said he had to play coy the night before, and than he said they had to take him because others teams were going to with in the next couple picks...uh yeah right.
If he works out that's great but this common current motto of no big deal either way is fascinating. So take these flip flops and I'll still feel the same way tomorrow.

 

[desertdawg]

I get the whole faith in the coaching thing, and Logan spent some time with the master this off season, but still man, I can't reach hard enough to justify that reach, even with my koolaid on.

 

[Red Dawn]

Thomas will be fine. You guys... chill baby

This. There is plenty of time for negativity later if Thomas flops.

Go Cards!

 

[Duckjake]

I'm trying to figure out the who or what on the right side of the picture , it appears to be some sort of Hybrid , part tackling dummy , part Cardinal football player . It has a head , but no arms or legs .

That's Anthony McCloud NT from Florida State.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/20...ona-cardinal-bring-back-kenny-demens-add-2-to

He hires himself out in the off season as a Dam.

 

[PACardsFan]

Yes those odds are heavily against him IMO.

I liked someone's analogy earlier about this being like the lottery. Problem is, I've never seen them selling .25cent tickets.

At some point the Cards are going to have to bite the bullet & swing for the fences because trying to win the lottery with third, fourth & fifth round picks continually on QBs are more than likely gonna get this staff fired too. The best odds at getting a franchise QB are in Rd1 & 2 and having one is what leads to SB's and championships...NFL history says so.

I was all for going QB with the 20th pick. Unfortunately, I think the only guy that fit the prototype that BA wanted & was worthy of being selected that early was Bortles. We were just never going to take a Bridgewater or Manziel due to their physical makeup. Once Bortles went off the board, there was no way we were even considering QB in the 1st round.

With the QB's left, none were value picks in the 2nd or 3rd round. When you're taking a 4th round QB in any draft, there's a much larger chance they'll fail than succeed. Those facts don't lie. All the measurables assigned to Thomas, made him very alluring to a guy like BA. I would have been extremely upset if we had taken LT any earlier, but I'm fine with taking a high risk, higher reward QB in the 4th round. I'll give BA the benefit of the doubt this time around. If they really think he's their guy, they will need to find out sooner rather than later. Otherwise, we will be picking a 1st round QB soon, maybe even next year.

 

[Southpaw]

At some point the Cards are going to have to bite the bullet & swing for the fences because trying to win the lottery with third, fourth & fifth round picks continually on QBs are more than likely gonna get this staff fired too. The best odds at getting a franchise QB are in Rd1 & 2 and having one is what leads to SB's and championships...NFL history says so.

Bears repeating.

 

[PACardsFan]

I'm sitting here watching a replay of the VT / GT game this past Fall. If Thomas plays anything remotely like he did in the first quarter and a half, then I'm really excited about this kids potential. He's 9/10 for about 120 yds & has a rushing TD. George Whitfield was on the sideline & the announcers interviewed him in regards to Thomas. Here's what Whitfield had to say:

1. Didn't play the QB position until college.
2. After his first year @ QB, he was being projected as a top 5 pick in the NFL.
3. VT's OL, WR, and RB play has been awful since that first year & Thomas has really tried to do too much. Not only do his receivers drop the ball, but they can't create separation whatsoever. In the process, he developed some bad habits.
4. WHITFIELD SAID THAT THOMAS CAN MAKE THROWS THAT 95% OF QB's IN THE NFL CAN'T MAKE.
5. Whitfield said that he's still developing & learning every aspect of being a QB.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed with what I've seen.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm sitting here watching a replay of the VT / GT game this past Fall. If Thomas plays anything remotely like he did in the first quarter and a half, then I'm really excited about this kids potential. He's 9/10 for about 120 yds & has a rushing TD. George Whitfield was on the sideline & the announcers interviewed him in regards to Thomas. Here's what Whitfield had to say:

1. Didn't play the QB position until college.
2. After his first year @ QB, he was being projected as a top 5 pick in the NFL.
3. VT's OL, WR, and RB play has been awful since that first year & Thomas has really tried to do too much. Not only do his receivers drop the ball, but they can't create separation whatsoever. In the process, he developed some bad habits.
4. WHITFIELD SAID THAT THOMAS CAN MAKE THROWS THAT 95% OF QB's IN THE NFL CAN'T MAKE.
5. Whitfield said that he's still developing & learning every aspect of being a QB.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed with what I've seen.

Now if we can just get Georgia Tech on our schedule.

He certainly had good games but it's hard to blame the OL, RB's and WR's when you go 5-26 59 yards against Alabama, a QBR of 1.9. Obviously Alabama was MUCH better but that's part of my issue with Thomas, against teams with NFL talent he has looked horrible.

Even against mediocre teams, 2 picks against Marshall, 4 picks against Duke.

He looked bad against UCLA in the bowl game before he got hurt, did have a couple of nice runs in that game.

The problem for me is I've never seen him play well, every game I saw him play, he was bad.

 

[Duckjake]

Now if we can just get Georgia Tech on our schedule.

He certainly had good games but it's hard to blame the OL, RB's and WR's when you go 5-26 59 yards against Alabama, a QBR of 1.9. Obviously Alabama was MUCH better but that's part of my issue with Thomas, against teams with NFL talent he has looked horrible.

Even against mediocre teams, 2 picks against Marshall, 4 picks against Duke.

He looked bad against UCLA in the bowl game before he got hurt, did have a couple of nice runs in that game.

The problem for me is I've never seen him play well, every game I saw him play, he was bad.

No, we need to get Miami (FL) on our schedule. 68-94 899 yards 5 TDs and 2 INTs. Too bad he couldn't play like that against other teams.

 

[juza76]

the thread about logan thomas is one of the most viewed on this forum.
he is already succesfull

 

[Duckjake]

the thread about logan thomas is one of the most viewed on this forum.
he is already succesfull

Any thread about a QB will be the most viewed on this forum for the time the player is relevant. That's just the way it is with American Football.

Remember the numerous 100 post threads about Leinart, Skelton, Kolb et al.

We're crazy about QBs.

 

[TruColor]

We're crazy about QBs.

Or at least hopeful that they won't suck.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I haven't read the whole thread, but I'm curious to know if DuckJake jinxed him or not. I hope so because we sure need a QBOF.


.

 

[Southpaw]

No, we need to get Miami (FL) on our schedule. 68-94 899 yards 5 TDs and 2 INTs. Too bad he couldn't play like that against other teams.

Oooooh, that hurt...... but it is true. Miami may have had the worst defense in the NCAA the last 6 years, and probably won't be any better this year. Every QB is a human highlight reel against Miami.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Any thread about a QB will be the most viewed on this forum for the time the player is relevant. That's just the way it is with American Football.

Remember the numerous 100 post threads about Leinart, Skelton, Kolb et al.

We're crazy about QBs.

Skelton v. Kolb debates...man, those were dark freaking days. And yet Wiz STILL somehow won 11 of 13 games at one point with those pathetic scrubs behind center...and yet, a lot of people here still think he's a bad coach.

 

[PACardsFan]

Now if we can just get Georgia Tech on our schedule.

He certainly had good games but it's hard to blame the OL, RB's and WR's when you go 5-26 59 yards against Alabama, a QBR of 1.9. Obviously Alabama was MUCH better but that's part of my issue with Thomas, against teams with NFL talent he has looked horrible.

Even against mediocre teams, 2 picks against Marshall, 4 picks against Duke.

He looked bad against UCLA in the bowl game before he got hurt, did have a couple of nice runs in that game.

The problem for me is I've never seen him play well, every game I saw him play, he was bad.

During the GT telecast, the one announcer said that VT receivers dropped 8 balls in the Alabama game & 4 would have been substantial gains. He was also under constant pressure because VT was starting a freshman LT, who was abused all day. Btw, there's nothing wrong with the GT team. That was an impressive showing on the road!!

 

[Krangodnzr]

And yet Wiz STILL somehow won 11 of 13 games at one point with those pathetic scrubs behind center...and yet, a lot of people here still think he's a bad coach.

I think Whisenhunt is a good coach with a bad supporting cast.

The Whisenhunt/Rod Graves marriage was bad. Neither are personnel guys, and it's now pretty certain that they made most of the picks on who the team was taking.

His trust in Russ Grimm is baffling. Based on everything we've seen since and at the time, Russ Grimm is an awful developer of talent. Supposedly he's a good X's and O's guy, but this team needed someone to mold talent, and Grimm is not that guy.

I think if Whisenhunt has a strong GM that lays down the rules, Whisenhunt will be a very good head coach.

 

[Krangodnzr]

That's the real deal. If Palmer plays well this year, he's got the Cards completely over the barrel in 2015 when his contract voids. 3 years, $40m over the barrel.

The funny thing is that the college football game is all about development; he NFL game is about precision. We took developmental players with our 2nd and 4th round picks and are quickly going to run out of time to develop them.

If you think Nikklas is a developmental player, you're dead wrong. He'll play right away, but he's not at the top of his potential yet, but that can be said about 250 other players coming into the NFL. Nikklas just has more of a ceiling right now than most players coming out.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Even against mediocre teams, 2 picks against Marshall, 4 picks against Duke.

I wouldn't call Duke "mediocre" last year. They would have handled UCLA with ease, just like the Sun Devils did.

I like the pick of Thomas; as others have stated he has a very high ceiling, and on day three, you might as well swing for the fences.

If Logan Thomas reaches his potential, he's a top five QB in the NFL. If he doesn't, you lost a 4th round pick. The only argument against this pick that I can understand, is that it may persuade the team into NOT going after a QB in next years draft, though I don't really see anyone I want.

Mariota has his issues; He played in a nontraditional offense and his decline at the end of the year is worrisome. Watch the Oregon-UofA game, and tell me that Mariota looks like even a draftable prospect. Hundley is terribad from a pro perspective. I don't think he has the mental acumen to be a great NFL QB and he has mechanical issues that he needs to fix. Winston has major character concerns (would I really want my pro sports team to bring THAT GUY into my community?!?!).

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I think Whisenhunt is a good coach with a bad supporting cast.

The Whisenhunt/Rod Graves marriage was bad. Neither are personnel guys, and it's now pretty certain that they made most of the picks on who the team was taking.

His trust in Russ Grimm is baffling. Based on everything we've seen since and at the time, Russ Grimm is an awful developer of talent. Supposedly he's a good X's and O's guy, but this team needed someone to mold talent, and Grimm is not that guy.

I think if Whisenhunt has a strong GM that lays down the rules, Whisenhunt will be a very good head coach.

Yup.

 

[Billy Bob]

Logan Thomas on 910 Now

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Logan Thomas on 910 Now

Can you give us an update on what he said?

Thanks