After Noel and Mclemore, This Is The Player That I want the Suns to Pick

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He seems like a worlds better shooter than Ellis but not as athletic.. I mean come on McCollum shot 52% from 3 and took over 5 attempts.

I thought maybe Mitch Ritchmond would be a decent comparison?

I am starting to like the idea of McCollum at #5 if McLemore and Oladipo are gone. With Dragic and Marshall we have two pretty big PGs. McCollum is the best shooter in the draft I guess we could use that and our backcourt can compensate height a bit.

Plus Dragic imo not being a really pure PG maybe we can do it with 2 kind of combo guards.

Maybe not the best long term prospect but a pretty safe bet for rookie of the year on a team that desperately needs scoring.
 
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He seems like a worlds better shooter than Ellis but not as athletic.. I mean come on McCollum shot 52% from 3 and took over 5 attempts.

I thought maybe Mitch Ritchmond would be a decent comparison?

I am starting to like the idea of McCollum at #5 if McLemore and Oladipo are gone. With Dragic and Marshall we have two pretty big PGs. McCollum is the best shooter in the draft I guess we could use that and our backcourt can compensate height a bit.

Plus Dragic imo not being a really pure PG maybe we can do it with 2 kind of combo guards.

Maybe not the best long term prospect but a pretty safe bet for rookie of the year on a team that desperately needs scoring.

His numbers were very consistent in college (but his minutes were too, that helps). Ha, he rebounded at over 6 boards a game--that's better than Robin Lopez at Stanford :)

He sure will be an exciting player to watch. I am just not sure how he will pair with Dragic. Like you said, two combo guards could work. It certainly did for Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars.
 

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He seems like a worlds better shooter than Ellis but not as athletic.. I mean come on McCollum shot 52% from 3 and took over 5 attempts.

I thought maybe Mitch Ritchmond would be a decent comparison?

I am starting to like the idea of McCollum at #5 if McLemore and Oladipo are gone. With Dragic and Marshall we have two pretty big PGs. McCollum is the best shooter in the draft I guess we could use that and our backcourt can compensate height a bit.

Plus Dragic imo not being a really pure PG maybe we can do it with 2 kind of combo guards.

Maybe not the best long term prospect but a pretty safe bet for rookie of the year on a team that desperately needs scoring.

I'd be ecstatic if we could land a Mitch Richmond kind of player out of this draft. In fact, I think every team in the league would trade in their selection for a Mitch Richmond level player out of this group. If CJ really is in that ballpark, I'm sure we'll jump at the chance to grab him.

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Yeah, I think my preference is down to Oladipo and McCollum in that order.
 

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I'd be ecstatic if we could land a Mitch Richmond kind of player out of this draft. In fact, I think every team in the league would trade in their selection for a Mitch Richmond level player out of this group. If CJ really is in that ballpark, I'm sure we'll jump at the chance to grab him.

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Mitch Richmond was 6-5. I have to believe that if McCollum was 2 inches taller he would be a consensus top two pick.
 

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Give me Oladipo. Noel will be a bust in the NBA.
 

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I'd take McCollum too, guy is a tremendous shooter off the dribble. Can create his own shot. I like his IQ on the court too. I do worry about him finishing above NBA bigs in the paint. He isn't very athletic and isn't that explosive. He gets a lot of scores because he has a good idea on how to break down a defender. Oladipo doesn't have the same shot and he can't really shoot that good (although improved). Oladipo has friggin awesome defensive skills.
 
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Mitch Richmond was 6-5. I have to believe that if McCollum was 2 inches taller he would be a consensus top two pick.

You're right, I didn't give any consideration to the difference in height.

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Yeah, I think my preference is down to Oladipo and McCollum in that order.

Over McLemore or do you just assume he won't be available?

If Orlando goes with Burke I think it is totally up in the air who falls to us.

Apparently Len is in discussion at #1, #3 and #4...... that would completely mix up the top 5 because Noel would fall and so would the others.
 

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You're right, I didn't give any consideration to the difference in height.

Steve

Richmond always struck me as a small shooting guard. Those old measurements are not always right. Steve Nash was listed at 6'3 but I doubt he is any taller than 6'1. I only came up with Richmond because he was a high scoring guard that liked to shoot 3s.
 

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Richmond always struck me as a small shooting guard. Those old measurements are not always right. Steve Nash was listed at 6'3 but I doubt he is any taller than 6'1. I only came up with Richmond because he was a high scoring guard that liked to shoot 3s.

I think it is a fair comparison, height isn't the only thing. CJ seems faster to me. Richmond was a tough, physical scoring guard. He also played pretty good D I think.
 

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Over McLemore or do you just assume he won't be available?

If Orlando goes with Burke I think it is totally up in the air who falls to us.

Apparently Len is in discussion at #1, #3 and #4...... that would completely mix up the top 5 because Noel would fall and so would the others.

Its going to be an interesting draft. This is one where there is going to be some player that everyone loves but no one is talking about right now. He will fly up the draft board on draft day.

Shabazz is interesting. The take on him for some is that he is not good enough to be the #1 option on a team, but his personality and mentality won't let him be effective in a supporting role.

Its fascinating. Its not just the level of talent that is important, but the mentality that is appropriate for that level of talent.
 

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Muhammad I think came across as one of the more intelligent/mature players in the draft at least for what you can judge from the combine interviews.
 

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Over McLemore or do you just assume he won't be available?

If Orlando goes with Burke I think it is totally up in the air who falls to us.

Apparently Len is in discussion at #1, #3 and #4...... that would completely mix up the top 5 because Noel would fall and so would the others.

I'm assuming McLemore won't be available. If he is, then I'm not sure. It's a toss up for me between him and Oladipo.
 

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McLemore, Oladipo, McCollum. All okay by me. Probably a good idea to take Noel as well and coach him along slowly, bottom out and get lucky with Wiggins.
 

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Noel looks so skinny and fragile. That scares me.

Is CJ's foot fracture one of those things that becomes chronic?
 

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There's no point worrying about Noel, because he'll surely be gone by the time the Suns pick. So if you have doubts about him, just be glad that the Suns won't be taking him.
 

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There's no point worrying about Noel, because he'll surely be gone by the time the Suns pick. So if you have doubts about him, just be glad that the Suns won't be taking him.

I have huge doubts about him and I still wish we were taking him. But you're right, he'll be long gone by the time we pick. I think we take Shabazz with an eye to pairing him with Beasley as our one-two punch. That's a combo that's hard to beat. Wiggins here we come.

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