All quiet on Washington front

[TJ]

Well that seems pretty telling. NFLPA won't share the negative information they have available because they believe that should be up to Daryl it seems. Daryl has nothing to say on the matter because he messed up and has literally disappeared himself.

Not saying you're wrong, but that's an awful lot of assumptions based off of one mere mention of confidentiality. The NFLPA won't share information because it's not allowed to share information.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Well that seems pretty telling. NFLPA won't share the negative information they have available because they believe that should be up to Daryl it seems. Daryl has nothing to say on the matter because he messed up and has literally disappeared himself.

They won't share information. Period.

And until Dwash's indefinite suspension is lifted or superseded by a lifetime ban there is nothing to report.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Here's another part of the story...Remember back before TC, when it was mentioned by the media that the Cards were "considering" going after the bonus money that had paid Washington? Even that story has been buried now...Not another mention of it.

Where's Mulder and Scully when you need them, to get to the bottom of this X-File?

 

[BigRedRage]

Cards reporters are terrible, none of them press issues nor do they perform actual investigative work. They're more PR reps than anything else.

The repoirters have done their work. No one will say anything. The NFL will not comment because he is not reinstated. The NFLPA wont comment because he is not reinstated. The guy obviously has not met all of his conditions to be reinstated.

I am amazed this thread keeps getting updated. It's like you guys were dumped and you are still stalking the girl unwilling to accept it is over.

Its over. Shes gone. Shes not coming back.

 

[BigRedRage]

Here's another part of the story...Remember back before TC, when it was mentioned by the media that the Cards were "considering" going after the bonus money that had paid Washington? Even that story has been buried now...Not another mention of it.

Where's Mulder and Scully when you need them, to get to the bottom of this X-File?

its been mentioned multiple times by the local reporters that the cardinals are still trying to recoup some of the bonus money, an obvious indicator that he is not coming back.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The repoirters have done their work. No one will say anything. The NFL will not comment because he is not reinstated. The NFLPA wont comment because he is not reinstated. The guy obviously has not met all of his conditions to be reinstated.

I am amazed this thread keeps getting updated. It's like you guys were dumped and you are still stalking the girl unwilling to accept it is over.

Its over. Shes gone. Shes not coming back.

 

[BIGRED1959]

dWash most likely messed up somewhere, the NFL told him he is suspended another full year and most likely #58 has neglected to inform his team/fans.

 

[GuernseyCard]

dWash most likely messed up somewhere, the NFL told him he is suspended another full year and most likely #58 has neglected to inform his team/fans.

If he's been suspended another year, there is nothing legally preventing the NFL or NFLPA or Dwash from simply saying so. The answer from the League to every inquiry has been to say that there's no change in his status. He's indefinitely suspended.

 

[cardpa]

I guess my only question is when the team is going to announce officially cutting any ties to him.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I guess my only question is when the team is going to announce officially cutting any ties to him.

No kidding. Cut ties and move on. Do they actually feel he can come back and contribute at some point?

 

[BigRedRage]

No kidding. Cut ties and move on. Do they actually feel he can come back and contribute at some point?

maybe they will after recouping some of their money. if its not costing them anything, no reason to rush.

if anything you keep him in case some day he does get reinstated and then trade him for a 7th.

 

[kerouac9]

maybe they will after recouping some of their money. if its not costing them anything, no reason to rush.

if anything you keep him in case some day he does get reinstated and then trade him for a 7th.

I think it pushes off the cap impact of accelerating his bonus into this year. If the Cards cut Washington right now, they'd absorb $8.5M in accelerated bonuses into this year's cap. They actually can't cut him even if they wanted to.

 

[PDXChris]

I think it pushes off the cap impact of accelerating his bonus into this year. If the Cards cut Washington right now, they'd absorb $8.5M in accelerated bonuses into this year's cap. They actually can't cut him even if they wanted to.

Yup, this was mentioned when he was first suspended.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I wonder why the Cards aren't trying to re-coup some of their money. To me, that would signal that they are done with him or he messed up again. Them not doing anything is a sign that not all bridges have been burned.

I still wouldn't be surprised if DW is reinstated after game 6. That way Roger gets his 6 game DV suspension that went into effect after DW's incident. If he'd reinstated him prior to the season and then suspended him again 6 games for the DV, it likely gets overturned on appeal.

 

[Darkside]

People need to give up on this dude and forget about him. Even if he came back, he's not in football shape, at all, hasn't practiced with the team, doesn't know the new D calls or formations. He was undersized to begin with and without working out with pro athletes it's not like he's faster or maintained his speed.

And frankly aside from that, why would anyone want him on this team? Do you really want him interacting with Mathieu and others? I don't.

To do that would show that Mathieu's rehab meant nothing. That it doesn't matter if you change and dedicate yourself to our team, all we care about are measurables, from two freaking years ago with no practice against real ballers.

It's a horrible message to send to our team. Horrible. It would mean Mathieu's work was pointless.

Mathieu has earned the respect we wanted to give Wash. He's the example, not Wash.

Send that message to our team, what Mathieu has done. He's dedicated. PP stood up for him, he knew this man's character.

Mathieu is a true pro. He dedicates himself to this team and his team mates, he changed his life. Wash has done nothing, NOTHING to deserve such loyalty.

And it says a lot when a dude coming out of college with Mathieu's issues, can work so hard in the media and on the field to play football. Does anyone at all doubt Mathieu's passion for football?

 

[GuernseyCard]

People need to give up on this dude and forget about him. Even if he came back, he's not in football shape, at all, hasn't practiced with the team, doesn't know the new D calls or formations. He was undersized to begin with and without working out with pro athletes it's not like he's faster or maintained his speed.

And frankly aside from that, why would anyone want him on this team? Do you really want him interacting with Mathieu and others? I don't.

To do that would show that Mathieu's rehab meant nothing. That it doesn't matter if you change and dedicate yourself to our team, all we care about are measurables, from two freaking years ago with no practice against real ballers.

It's a horrible message to send to our team. Horrible. It would mean Mathieu's work was pointless.

Mathieu has earned the respect we wanted to give Wash. He's the example, not Wash.

Send that message to our team, what Mathieu has done. He's dedicated. PP stood up for him, he knew this man's character.

Mathieu is a true pro. He dedicates himself to this team and his team mates, he changed his life. Wash has done nothing, NOTHING to deserve such loyalty.

And it says a lot when a dude coming out of college with Mathieu's issues, can work so hard in the media and on the field to play football. Does anyone at all doubt Mathieu's passion for football?

There have been reports that he's working out and looking good.

If the team has no issue with his return, I certainly don't, and Dwash has been in a form of court ordered rehab.

 

[Darkside]

There have been reports that he's working out and looking good.

If the team has no issue with his return, I certainly don't, and Dwash has been in a form of court ordered rehab.

Reports from whom? I'd assume if it was anyone substantial, like a former badass player, that we'd know. Working out with your buddies isn't the same. Frankly, working out with anyone isn't the same as having training camps and practices and learning the plays against NFL talent. He hasn't been around and is so stoned I doubt he even knows his new defensive coordinator.

You may not have issues with his return, but I do. We've built a good team, without him, for two years now. He's a cancer. Puts himself above the team. That's no good dude.

And what reports do you refer to? Provide a link man. What links show he's working out and looking good?

 

[CardNots]

I wonder why the Cards aren't trying to re-coup some of their money. To me, that would signal that they are done with him or he messed up again. Them not doing anything is a sign that not all bridges have been burned.

I still wouldn't be surprised if DW is reinstated after game 6. That way Roger gets his 6 game DV suspension that went into effect after DW's incident. If he'd reinstated him prior to the season and then suspended him again 6 games for the DV, it likely gets overturned on appeal.

Great strategy for nullifying appeals. Brilliant...

 

[Jim Otis]

My final opinion ---- if he comes back "FINE".
If he don't come back "FINE" .

 

[NashDishesDimes]

BA never said they have "moved on". If they had moved on then he wiuld have been cut. There is a difference between moving on and coach speak that they arent letting it be a distraction.

There has been zero indication that he is gone and the team has given up on him. Trying to recoupe bonus money is equal to teams vs players in money/contract negotiations.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Reports from whom? I'd assume if it was anyone substantial, like a former badass player, that we'd know. Working out with your buddies isn't the same. Frankly, working out with anyone isn't the same as having training camps and practices and learning the plays against NFL talent. He hasn't been around and is so stoned I doubt he even knows his new defensive coordinator.

You may not have issues with his return, but I do. We've built a good team, without him, for two years now. He's a cancer. Puts himself above the team. That's no good dude.

And what reports do you refer to? Provide a link man. What links show he's working out and looking good?

I don't have links. I simply read reports from posters on other boards who've seen him at a local gym pumping iron and playing basketball.

Do you have links supporting your contention that he's "stoned" or that anyone with the team views him as a "cancer"?

Your feelings are your own.

If the team agrees with you, he's gone, if not... Live with it!

 

[GuernseyCard]

Great strategy for nullifying appeals. Brilliant...

It doesn't nullify an appeal by the NFLPA based on the decision made in the Rice decision, which ruled against retroactivity. If won, Dwash could claim salary owed for games to which he would have been available to play.

 

[cardpa]

BA never said they have "moved on". If they had moved on then he wiuld have been cut. There is a difference between moving on and coach speak that they arent letting it be a distraction.

There has been zero indication that he is gone and the team has given up on him. Trying to recoupe bonus money is equal to teams vs players in money/contract negotiations.

I would think that K9 is correct in that maybe the only reason they haven't jettisoned him is because of cap implications.

 

[Dude]

My final opinion ---- if he comes back "FINE".
If he don't come back "FINE" .

+1

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I would still love him to come back but have given up thinking about it anymore. Ill think about it again when more info is revealed. Otherwise its just speculation.