All quiet on Washington front

[crisper57]

As I've said in this thread about 3 times: substance abuse has a non-disclosure clause attached to it. NFLPA can't say anything about it.

I get that. But they can still ask publicly why one of their members has served his suspension and has not yet been reinstated. They don't have to expect a response, but they can take the opportunity to try and shame the NFL a little more.

The fact that they are silent tells me that Washington probably did screw up again.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As I've said in this thread about 3 times: substance abuse has a non-disclosure clause attached to it. NFLPA can't say anything about it.

you've said it a million times, but if the PLAYER wished to waive his right to privacy... and it is HIS right to privacy, I see no reason he couldn't legally do so, especially if he was being wronged. I mean, what you're saying is there is no legal way the NFLPA could contest something that's patently unfair in the courts and that's a ridiculous concept to me.

Other things in the CBA that have been collectively bargained (like the NDA) have been taken to court and been shot down. There's no reason if Washington was being wronged and was losing money for unfair judgment he wouldn't be taking the NFL to court like everyone else.

I mean, you keep bringing up the "right to privacy" and keep ignoring the fact that Washington HAS spoken about this already to reporters saying he expects to hear decisions/told them when he applied for reinstatement. If he can talk about the process there, why couldn't he talk about anything else?

 

[TJ]

I get that. But they can still ask publicly why one of their members has served his suspension and has not yet been reinstated. They don't have to expect a response, but they can take the opportunity to try and shame the NFL a little more.

The fact that they are silent tells me that Washington probably did screw up again.

you've said it a million times, but if the PLAYER wished to waive his right to privacy... and it is HIS right to privacy, I see no reason he couldn't legally do so, especially if he was being wronged. I mean, what you're saying is there is no legal way the NFLPA could contest something that's patently unfair in the courts and that's a ridiculous concept to me.

Other things in the CBA that have been collectively bargained (like the NDA) have been taken to court and been shot down. There's no reason if Washington was being wronged and was losing money for unfair judgment he wouldn't be taking the NFL to court like everyone else.

I mean, you keep bringing up the "right to privacy" and keep ignoring the fact that Washington HAS spoken about this already to reporters saying he expects to hear decisions/told them when he applied for reinstatement. If he can talk about the process there, why couldn't he talk about anything else?

Notice how all of Washington's correspondence has been cordial. He hasn't admonished the league in any way. He's not deflecting blame onto anyone else. There's a plan in place and it's obviously to not bite the hand that feeds. The NFL holds all of the cards in this situation regardless of whether or not D-Wash has been in compliance; hence, the term "indefinite" attached to his suspension. If he starts popping his mouth in public, it'll do him no good, and it's not like the rest of the nation cares about D-Wash's situation. Not one national reporter has spoken about the situation, which is the other key difference between D-Wash and Tom Brady et al.

If Washington was a member of the Patriots or Steelers, trust me, we'd be force-fed this information on a weekly basis by ESPN.

 

[WildBB]

Notice how all of Washington's correspondence has been cordial. He hasn't admonished the league in any way. He's not deflecting blame onto anyone else. There's a plan in place and it's obviously to not bite the hand that feeds. The NFL holds all of the cards in this situation regardless of whether or not D-Wash has been in compliance; hence, the term "indefinite" attached to his suspension. If he starts popping his mouth in public, it'll do him no good, and it's not like the rest of the nation cares about D-Wash's situation. Not one national reporter has spoken about the situation, which is the other key difference between D-Wash and Tom Brady et al.

If Washington was a member of the Patriots or Steelers, trust me, we'd be force-fed this information on a weekly basis by ESPN.

The double standards for some markets make this case more infuriating. And the national media is ZILCH help here, other than to mock the "bANDWAGON" fan base.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Notice how all of Washington's correspondence has been cordial. He hasn't admonished the league in any way. He's not deflecting blame onto anyone else. There's a plan in place and it's obviously to not bite the hand that feeds. The NFL holds all of the cards in this situation regardless of whether or not D-Wash has been in compliance; hence, the term "indefinite" attached to his suspension. If he starts popping his mouth in public, it'll do him no good, and it's not like the rest of the nation cares about D-Wash's situation. Not one national reporter has spoken about the situation, which is the other key difference between D-Wash and Tom Brady et al.

If Washington was a member of the Patriots or Steelers, trust me, we'd be force-fed this information on a weekly basis by ESPN.

you say that biting the hand that feeds him will do no good... but it looks like silence isn't doing jack squat. if he was really being wronged, he'd take to the air like anyone else, IMO.

 

[splitsecond]

The double standards for some markets make this case more infuriating. And the national media is ZILCH help here, other than to mock the "bANDWAGON" fan base.

It's not that they are no help, they have a vested interest in the Cardinals being less successful than all of the crappy major market teams. Let's not forget how badly we were lambasted during our super bowl run regardless of being one of the most exciting teams to watch in football and regardless of the fact that we were one of the best stories in the NFL. Look no further than the PFT "predictions" that have bigger market teams making the playoffs that have made zero improvements where they were needed, and in some cases have greatly declined.

We will never get help from media outlets barring some scenario where we go to the superbowl 4 years in a row a la the Buffalo Bills and they are FORCED to talk about us the way the were forced to talk about the Bills in the 90s.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It's not that they are no help, they have a vested interest in the Cardinals being less successful than all of the crappy major market teams. Let's not forget how badly we were lambasted during our super bowl run regardless of being one of the most exciting teams to watch in football and regardless of the fact that we were one of the best stories in the NFL. Look no further than the PFT "predictions" that have bigger market teams making the playoffs that have made zero improvements where they were needed, and in some cases have greatly declined.

since when is Minnesota a bigger market then us? And they made a pretty big improvement adding AP. And KC isn't a big market either. Kinda flies in the face that they have the bigger markets making the playoffs simply because they're big markets. I mean, if that was the case, shouldn't they be pimping the Niners, Giants or Bears?

We will never get help from media outlets barring some scenario where we go to the superbowl 4 years in a row a la the Buffalo Bills and they are FORCED to talk about us the way the were forced to talk about the Bills in the 90s.

uh... if the player and the NFLPA won't speak out against the punishment, why should the media care? I mean, the national media is going to make a stink about a guy not getting back in the league... who's busted for substance abuse twice AND assaulting a woman?

 

[splitsecond]

uh... if the player and the NFLPA won't speak out against the punishment, why should the media care?

You don't think if DW was on the Cowboys or Patriots roster they would care? Look I am not disagreeing with the general concept of "no information no reason to waste time" but in a major market someone would be trying to be the one to "break" the story and could easily drive hits to their articles literally talking about the same things we have been discussing here.

I am over this whole thing myself. Spoon is back and I will be at a game sunday.


EDIT: DAMMIT you edited your post!

Minnesota is a small market physically yes, but they still for some reason have a huge fanbase outside of Minnesota. Probably because it's the midwest and because everyone leaves because it sucks to live there. I am sure they draw much higher ratings nationally than we do.

 

[Phrazbit]

You don't think if DW was on the Cowboys or Patriots roster they would care? Look I am not disagreeing with the general concept of "no information no reason to waste time" but in a major market someone would be trying to be the one to "break" the story and could easily drive hits to their articles literally talking about the same things we have been discussing here.

I am over this whole thing myself. Spoon is back and I will be at a game sunday.


EDIT: DAMMIT you edited your post!

Minnesota is a small market physically yes, but they still for some reason have a huge fanbase outside of Minnesota. Probably because it's the midwest and because everyone leaves because it sucks to live there. I am sure they draw much higher ratings nationally than we do.

I think the NFL is one sport where market does not really matter. If you get good, you win, you dominate... and you also become a media darling. 10 years ago no one gave a squirt about the Seahawks, now Russell Wilson could sneeze and we'd hear about it on ESPN, 20 years ago the Patriots were a punchline.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think the NFL is one sport where market does not really matter. If you get good, you win, you dominate... and you also become a media darling. 10 years ago no one gave a squirt about the Seahawks, now Russell Wilson could sneeze and we'd hear about it on ESPN, 20 years ago the Patriots were a punchline.

same with the Pack before Favre got there or Indy before Manning or New Orleans before Brees.

 

[splitsecond]

I think the NFL is one sport where market does not really matter. If you get good, you win, you dominate... and you also become a media darling. 10 years ago no one gave a squirt about the Seahawks, now Russell Wilson could sneeze and we'd hear about it on ESPN, 20 years ago the Patriots were a punchline.

Luckily Russell Wilson does not sneeze, because he drinks magic water.

 

[Phrazbit]

same with the Pack before Favre got there or Indy before Manning or New Orleans before Brees.

Yep, and it swings the other way too. Miami was big news while Marino and Shula were there, now they're a team in a half empty stadium that no one cares about.

The Niners were the premiere team of the NFL for nearly 20 years, they fell off a cliff in the early 2000s and went nearly a decade where they were ignored by the media.

As near as I can tell the Cowboys are the only franchise that is totally immune to the ebb and flow of the media coverage.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So suspended and forgotten he is not even listed

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...layer-coach-and-executive/ss-AAebvS9#image=41

 

[RugbyMuffin]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/s...start-season-on-the-suspension-list.html?_r=0

Maybe something was missed, but is this article talking about ANOTHER substance abuse situation with Washington or the continuation from the one last year ?

 

[cardncubfan]

So suspended and forgotten he is not even listed

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...layer-coach-and-executive/ss-AAebvS9#image=41

I was about to post this same link.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/s...start-season-on-the-suspension-list.html?_r=0

Maybe something was missed, but is this article talking about ANOTHER substance abuse situation with Washington or the continuation from the one last year ?

Not another...is same suspension due to indefinite nature of suspension, methinks.

 

[TJ]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/s...start-season-on-the-suspension-list.html?_r=0

Maybe something was missed, but is this article talking about ANOTHER substance abuse situation with Washington or the continuation from the one last year ?

Doesn't say anything to being another situation, but rather a continuation of the current situation. It is possible that he misses the season, but this article is too vague to conclude that he's suspended for a separate drug incident.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Is there any way that Dwash/Union and Goodell have an agreement on a set amount of games and that Dwash will be reinstated just prior to his first eligible game? My thinking is that in light of all the previous cases that have been appealed and got ugly, maybe Goodell agreed to reinstate him if he kept his mouth shut and stayed clean. This way the NFL can ensure there will not be an appeal as the games have already been played.

This is about the only scenario I can come up with that has Dwash playing again with the Cardinals. I know I'm really reaching out there on this one, but it's hard to stay optimistic and realistic at the same time!

 

[MadCardDisease]

Not another...is same suspension due to indefinite nature of suspension, methinks.

Yep.

 

[kerouac9]

Dude, you guys have to stop. He's not coming back.

 

[Darkside]

Why are you pooping on their Rainbow? Let the dream breath a little man.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Dude, you guys have to stop. He's not coming back.

Daryl Washington should just change his name to Aldon Smith, then he can do what ever he wants.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Why are you pooping on their Rainbow? Let the dream breath a little man.

I guess there was just Pot at the end of this rainbow

 

[Darkside]

Well done sir.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I guess there was just Pot at the end of this rainbow

Which led to the consumption of mass quantities of fudge striped cookies.