Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[BritCard]

So he's gone after this season. Ugh, 2022 is looking bleak, but so is 2023. Good thing we have young WRs waiting to replace him. Andy, bubby, your time has come!

He has $18m dead money so he isn't going anywhere next year.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

He has $18m dead money so he isn't going anywhere next year.

The Falcons scoff at that dead money amount...lol

 

[TRW]

He has $18m dead money so he isn't going anywhere next year.

Atlanta: Hold my beer!

 

[QuebecCard]

Not worth the effort. I know what I see on the running thread of NFL network. Not claiming EVERY Player however , the major reporters like Schecter and Pallisaro consistently leak info.

Do you not remember past years when we would hear the Cardinals are bringing in so and do on Tuesdsy and so and so in on Wednesday? Or was that just a figment of my imagination?

It's not a figment of your imagination it's generalizing and extrapolating anecdotal examples.

 

[kerouac9]

Pretty much. There are only two realistic scenarios.

The FO have a list of players they are targeting who are still testing the market and so are not in any rush to accept the offer on the table. I don't think that's a list that contains big headline names. I think it's more along the lines of "We need to improve our depth because depth cost us last year" hence not blowing their was on a couple of star players. So looking more at players with upside who they think they can get below their true value. Players like Bryce Callahan or Kyle Fuller rather than Gilmore.

The 2nd option, but unlikely is that they are waiting until post draft. But that seems unlikely.

Either way it seems there is less emphasis on paying FA's and more focus on youth. Which is of course the right way to do it, if they can draft well. Which is a big if.

The obvious problem with that strategy is that the Cards only have three picks in the top 200, so it's unlikely you're going to find many quality young year-one contributors.

We have a dire need at outside WR, Edge, and DL. There are no legitimate young players looking to step in at those positions.

We have a moderate need at CB, RB, and OL. Only at RB is there young depth to step in.

It's amazing that the front office may think that this team is going to be better in 2022 without Chandler Jones and Christian Kirk.

 

[BritCard]

It's amazing that the front office may think that this team is going to be better in 2022 without Chandler Jones and Christian Kirk.

At the same time this board as spent the last 4 years saying Kirk was a JAG and all last year saying Chandler was garbage outside game 1.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

At the same time this board as spent the last 4 years saying Kirk was a JAG and all last year saying Chandler was garbage outside game 1.

Hilarious.

Or people could say that Kirk is a decent slot receiver who struggled to be a #1, and can't play on the outside, so paying him 17M is crazy.

Chan didn't put up huge sack numbers, but he did create pressure and demand attention from the other team that no other pass rusher did.

Barring a major trade, we're likely to be worse at both critical positions. Yay!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

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Looks like we signed a new starter at ILB!

 

[wa52lz]

So he's gone after this season. Ugh, 2022 is looking bleak, but so is 2023. Good thing we have young WRs waiting to replace him. Andy, bubby, your time has come!

Couldn't we convert the $19 million salary to bonus, add a couple voidable years and kick the can down the road like everyone else?

 

[kerouac9]

At the same time this board as spent the last 4 years saying Kirk was a JAG and all last year saying Chandler was garbage outside game 1.

Not this guy. Also, weren't you the guy saying a couple weeks ago that Kirk was a good #2?

 

[BritCard]

Not this guy. Also, weren't you the guy saying a couple weeks ago that Kirk was a good #2?

I did. I also said today I'm confident Moore can replace him.

 

[kerouac9]

I did. I also said today I'm confident Moore can replace him.

Well if you're confident then I guess that's enough.

 

[QuebecCard]

Hilarious.

Or people could say that Kirk is a decent slot receiver who struggled to be a #1, and can't play on the outside, so paying him 17M is crazy.

Chan didn't put up huge sack numbers, but he did create pressure and demand attention from the other team that no other pass rusher did.

Barring a major trade, we're likely to be worse at both critical positions. Yay!

Unlike the Chandler, of old, he didn't face double-teams last season and did little to take advantage of the presence of JJ.

 

[BritCard]

Well if you're confident then I guess that's enough.

You see the problem with this argument right?

For years fans have complained we don't give rookies a shot. And now they complain we can't rely on them and need to sign vets.

If we sign an FA slot then Moore will certainly fail because the 10m guy will get priority.

 

[kerouac9]

You see the problem with this argument right?

For years fans have complained we don't give rookies a shot. And now they complain we can't rely on them and need to sign vets.

If we sign an FA slot then Moore will certainly fail because the 10m guy will get priority.

There's lots of balls to go around in this offense. I'm way WAY more concerned about the actual third-option WR who will play 80%+ of the snaps on the outside than I am on Moore.

I had faith that Kirk could play that role adequately because he'd done it over the last four seasons. When he's been forced into that role he's pretty much been JAG, but he can do it.

I have no faith in Moore being productive in that role. Keim has a history of looking very smart by drafting a prospect a year early to replace a pending free agent, but it usually looks like Robert Nkeimdiche replacing Calais Campbell.

 

[Dayman]

I did. I also said today I'm confident Moore can replace him.

Why? What gives you the confidence?

Moore is the shortest wide receiver in the league with tiny hands, a limited catch radius and very little experience running a full route tree going back to Purdue. He is not the same kind of player as Kirk.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Nick Vigil | Minnesota Vikings LB | NFL and PFF stats | PFF

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Looks like we signed a new starter at ILB!

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:championship:

 

[Stout]

Why? What gives you the confidence?

Moore is the shortest wide receiver in the league with tiny hands, a limited catch radius and very little experience running a full route tree going back to Purdue. He is not the same kind of player as Kirk.

You forgot his huge injury history!

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Stout]

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We're looking good there! Wait, this isn't golf rules?

 

[slanidrac16]

It's not a figment of your imagination it's generalizing and extrapolating anecdotal examples.

Keep chasing that rainbow Q.

 

[slanidrac16]

NFL network power rankings have dropped the Cardinals to #17.

 

[BritCard]

Why? What gives you the confidence?

Moore is the shortest wide receiver in the league with tiny hands, a limited catch radius and very little experience running a full route tree going back to Purdue. He is not the same kind of player as Kirk.

I explained it if you search

 

[slanidrac16]

I explained it if you search

Somewhere…over the rainbow…..

 

[Stout]

NFL network power rankings have dropped the Cardinals to #17.

Sounds about right.