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So the Cards offense is entirely predictable, which is often reflected as the season goes on, and patterns are established.
i think its a factor, but at the margin

d coordinators dont forget everything they learned the year prior

Kliff doesnt completely reinvent his offense every offseason. Alternatively, I doubt Kliff creates 10 games worth of wrinkles, but not 17.
 

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i think its a factor, but at the margin

d coordinators dont forget everything they learned the year prior

Kliff doesnt completely reinvent his offense every offseason. Alternatively, I doubt Kliff creates 10 games worth of wrinkles, but not 17.
No coach completely reinvents an offense every year. It always comes down to scheme and matchups. Either way, if you're trotting colts and hags, to run against thoroughbreds, you're gonna get beat more often than not.
 

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Every year? Injuries happen in the NFL.
Yeah, and 31 teams fail to win. The best of the injury "free" teams typically ride to the SB.

We had a corpse of a team during Rams game, including being awful.

Had no chance in hell.

Hopkins out. Baker out. O/D line wrecked. Like how much cap % were done for? I'd wager higher than all playoff teams.
 

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Yeah, and 31 teams fail to win. The best of the injury "free" teams typically ride to the SB.

We had a corpse of a team during Rams game, including being awful.

Had no chance in hell.

Hopkins out. Baker out. O/D line wrecked. Like how much cap % were done for? I'd wager higher than all playoff teams.
Hmm, baker didn’t miss any games. Weird post.
 

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Again, the basis is PFF grades, which are nonsense
I don’t pretend to know how PFF defines “covered” but I would think that is more easily discernible than would be player grades. Again, you needn’t understand scheme to watch a given play and see that all routes are covered up by defenders. If PFF is using any other metric to determine that data I’d be less inclined to give it any validity.
 

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I don’t pretend to know how PFF defines “covered” but I would think that is more easily discernible than would be player grades. Again, you needn’t understand scheme to watch a given play and see that all routes are covered up by defenders. If PFF is using any other metric to determine that data I’d be less inclined to give it any validity.
That’s not what’s measured, though. It’s just whether the player in coverage got a positive or neural grade in the play.

They didn’t Re-review the tape to see if there’s a defined “covered” status.
 

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i think its a factor, but at the margin

d coordinators dont forget everything they learned the year prior

Kliff doesnt completely reinvent his offense every offseason. Alternatively, I doubt Kliff creates 10 games worth of wrinkles, but not 17.
The predictable aspect and failure to adjust does not add up If one considers that it's also the same offense which was on a tear into mid-season, but then the same offense from the year before which was in a slump
 

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That’s not what’s measured, though. It’s just whether the player in coverage got a positive or neural grade in the play.

They didn’t Re-review the tape to see if there’s a defined “covered” status.
So you’re telling me on every play they reviewed to determine if the defender got a positive grade or neutral grade but that doesn’t mean he covered anyone?

Forget it. I’m not in the least bit invested in PFF which I think is mostly stupid. If this isn’t analysis of each individual play as a whole in terms of looking if everyone covered it’s meaningless to me.

Regardless, I don’t even care why we sucked down the stretch for the third consecutive year under kliff and kyler. We did. I hope it doesn’t occur for a fourth consecutive year. I don’t even care to place blame. They all suck for that ineptitude for all intents and purposes and it’s on them to figure out how to not suck down the stretch again.
 
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So you’re telling me on every play they reviewed to determine if the defender got a positive grade or neutral grade but that doesn’t mean he covered anyone?

Forget it. I’m not in the least bit invested in PFF which I think is mostly stupid. If this isn’t analysis of each individual play as a whole in terms of looking if everyone covered it’s meaningless to me.

Regardless, I don’t even care why we sucked down the stretch for the third consecutive year under kliff and kyler. We did. I hope it doesn’t occur for a fourth consecutive year. I don’t even care to place blame. They all suck for that ineptitude for all intents and purposes and it’s on them to figure out how to not suck down the stretch again.
Hell yeah!!!

They ALL suck ass!!!

Fix that ****!!!



You sound like an old coach i had, lol
 

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Schrager went to McVay's wedding and saw Kliff there. Schrager tried to hype him about how loaded they were, but Kliff made it a point that they lost Chase.
 

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Schrager went to McVay's wedding and saw Kliff there. Schrager tried to hype him about how loaded they were, but Kliff made it a point that they lost Chase.
Translation... Kliff does not like our running back room when the OL is the actual elephant in the room lol
 

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