Arizona Diamondbacks @ SF Giants Aug 27 - Aug 29, 2018

[AZ Native]

Seasons over

Back on life support. Angels score 5 in bottom of 8th.

 

[AZ Native]

Back on life support. Angels score 5 in bottom of 8th.

And win 10-7.

 

[TJ]

Only thing giving me hope is that the Rockies’ bullpen is dogsh!t. If our bats didn’t go to sleep in the middle of games, we’d be up 7 in the division.

 

[Ronin]

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[ArizonaSportsFan]

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I think he is losing it. What a nonsense quote for a manager.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think he is losing it. What a nonsense quote for a manager.

MLB is such a long season... such a grind. Honestly, trying to measure every word from a manager is futile. They're essentially punch-drunk at this stage.

 

[Ronin]

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[BC867]

MLB is such a long season... such a grind. Honestly, trying to measure every word from a manager is futile. They're essentially punch-drunk at this stage.

I disagree. Before I retired and was in management, my "season" was fifty weeks a year. Six day weeks. Sometimes seven. Late nights. Hours of commuting. Then coming home and helping raise two sons and do the necessary chores around the house. I was held accountable for everything I said and did, which was proper. And I sure wasn't paid millions of dollars.

When we stop holding managers accountable, there is a problem. Torey Lovullo has lately said things that he later recanted. Or worse, misled the Press and the public. Punch-drunk? If he is, he is unfit to hold the job.

That is the problem with hiring inexperienced Managers who learn on the job. They don't have a track record. Only time will tell what their skill level is. And their ethics as the figurehead.

After last night's shutout loss to the Giants, whatever Lovullo is doing is not working. Even when they win, it is usually one inning of scoring and eight of futility and an overabundance of runners left on base.

We're seeing what his level of skill is now that he has had time on the job. And worse, it is not improving.

"Such a long season ... such a grind." Boo hoo! They are getting paid millions of dollars to do their job.

 

[Ronin]

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[BC867]

Well, let's see if the D-backs can make their formula work. Score a few runs in the 1st inning. Then runners left on base until Mad Bum reaches his pitch count. And hope that we can score a few off the reliever before their closer takes over.

It is a formula for .500 baseball at best, which is what our record has been for quite awhile.


Buchholz' ERA is lower than Mad Bum's. 'Hope it happens in-game tonight. Especially with Godley pitching tomorrow.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I disagree. Before I retired and was in management, my "season" was fifty weeks a year. Six day weeks. Sometimes seven. Late nights. Hours of commuting. Then coming home and helping raise two sons and do the necessary chores around the house. I was held accountable for everything I said and did, which was proper. And I sure wasn't paid millions of dollars.

When we stop holding managers accountable, there is a problem. Torey Lovullo has lately said things that he later recanted. Or worse, misled the Press and the public. Punch-drunk? If he is, he is unfit to hold the job.

That is the problem with hiring inexperienced Managers who learn on the job. They don't have a track record. Only time will tell what their skill level is. And their ethics as the figurehead.

After last night's shutout loss to the Giants, whatever Lovullo is doing is not working. Even when they win, it is usually one inning of scoring and eight of futility and an overabundance of runners left on base.

We're seeing what his level of skill is now that he has had time on the job. And worse, it is not improving.

"Such a long season ... such a grind." Boo hoo! They are getting paid millions of dollars to do their job.

1.) You've always had a hard-on for TL, so I take your rants with several grains of salt...

2.) I have been and still am in executive management, for the past 25 years. I manage a large team, with even larger teams under them, in multiple locations around the world. I travel extensively, last year putting up more than 125,000 flight miles... and this year will equal that amount. But if you think any of that compares to what a MLB Manager deals with, you truly know little about MLB...

The only thing I have an issue with last night as it relates to TL, is why Pollack and Marte were not used to pinch hit. With regard to AJ, while Tory continues to take the company-line and not admit to it, my gut is that there is something wrong with Pollack. He had two days off last week... and prior to that, TL had given him a few days off due to his "tired legs." Last night, with the lefty Watson pitching for SF, Tory let Descalso bat, leaving both AJ and Marte on the bench. I don't understand that and again, can only conclude that since AJ was the logical choice there, that something is up with him.

 

[BC867]

1.) You've always had a hard-on for TL, so I take your rants with several grains of salt...

2.) I have been and still am in executive management, for the past 25 years. I manage a large team, with even larger teams under them, in multiple locations around the world. I travel extensively, last year putting up more than 125,000 flight miles... and this year will equal that amount. But if you think any of that compares to what a MLB Manager deals with, you truly know little about MLB...

The only thing I have an issue with last night as it relates to TL, is why Pollack and Marte were not used to pinch hit. With regard to AJ, while Tory continues to take the company-line and not admit to it, my gut is that there is something wrong with Pollack. He had two days off last week... and prior to that, TL had given him a few days off due to his "tired legs." Last night, with the lefty Watson pitching for SF, Tory let Descalso bat, leaving both AJ and Marte on the bench. I don't understand that and again, can only conclude that since AJ was the logical choice there, that something is up with him.

1) I had high hopes for Torey Lovullo. I am disappointed by his recent coaching. Look at the results. We have been a .500 team. It is wrong for you to think it's personal.

2) So do all the MLB Managers. At this point in the season, the D-backs should be peaking, but they're not.

3) Even if Pollock is not 100%, the rest of the injured and under-performing are back. The overwhelming amount of runners left on base is a disappointment at this point of the season.

Why are you so defensive for Torey? His performance and being coy with the Press are not impressive.

 

[AZ Native]

I disagree. Before I retired and was in management, my "season" was fifty weeks a year. Six day weeks. Sometimes seven. Late nights. Hours of commuting. Then coming home and helping raise two sons and do the necessary chores around the house. I was held accountable for everything I said and did, which was proper. And I sure wasn't paid millions of dollars.

When we stop holding managers accountable, there is a problem. Torey Lovullo has lately said things that he later recanted. Or worse, misled the Press and the public. Punch-drunk? If he is, he is unfit to hold the job.

That is the problem with hiring inexperienced Managers who learn on the job. They don't have a track record. Only time will tell what their skill level is. And their ethics as the figurehead.

After last night's shutout loss to the Giants, whatever Lovullo is doing is not working. Even when they win, it is usually one inning of scoring and eight of futility and an overabundance of runners left on base.

We're seeing what his level of skill is now that he has had time on the job. And worse, it is not improving.

"Such a long season ... such a grind." Boo hoo! They are getting paid millions of dollars to do their job.

My career is similar to yours. But at the end of a day I never had a microphone stuck in front of my face questioning my every move. And then have my comments critiqued by thousands of “fans” the next day criticizing my every move.

 

[BC867]

My career is similar to yours. But at the end of a day I never had a microphone stuck in front of my face questioning my every move. And then have my comments critiqued by thousands of “fans” the next day criticizing my every move.

As I said in the post above, so does every Head Coach. It is all about being competitive and we have been a .500 team down the stretch. Luckily, the rest of the Division has been handing it to us.

I don't understand why fans would not hold their management responsible for the performance of their team. I do!

 

[82CardsGrad]

1) I had high hopes for Torey Lovullo. I am disappointed by his recent coaching. Look at the results. We have been a .500 team. It is wrong for you to think it's personal.

Could that be because this team is .500 team??

2) So do all the MLB Managers. At this point in the season, the D-backs should be peaking, but they're not.

Why should this team be “peaking?” They’re 13 games above .500 and in first place on August 28th. How good do you think this team is?

) 3. Even if Pollock is not 100%, the rest of the injured and under-performing are back. The overwhelming amount of runners left on base is a disappointment at this point of the season.

Why are you so defensive for Torey? His performance and being coy with the Press are not impressive.

You can pick out negative stats for just about every MLB team.
Bottom line is that TL is the reigning NL Manager of the Year, and once again has a team that shouldn’t be contending based on their many shortcomings, in first place in late August.
TL isn’t flawless.. No manager is. But IMO, what he’s done in his first two seasons as a manager is borderline spectacular.

 

[BC867]

Bottom line is that TL is the reigning NL Manager of the Year, and once again has a team that shouldn’t be contending based on their many shortcomings, in first place in late August.
TL isn’t flawless.. No manager is. But IMO, what he’s done in his first two seasons as a manager is borderline spectacular.

Ironically, the D-backs have a history of Managers who were Manager of the Year early on, then fired a couple of years later.

Having a spectacular year is one thing. Progress is something else.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Ironically, the D-backs have a history of Managers who were Manager of the Year early on, then fired a couple of years later.

Having a spectacular year is one thing. Progress is something else.

Like who? Gibson has ONE season above .500. Hale has none. Hinch was here for a season and we know how that panned out...
Torey is on his way to putting up back to back seasons above .500.
Given the scarcity of talent, a farm system that is generally viewed as the worst in baseball, and limited funds, I have nothing but respect for what Torey is doing...

 

[AZ Native]

As I said in the post above, so does every Head Coach. It is all about being competitive and we have been a .500 team down the stretch. Luckily, the rest of the Division has been handing it to us.

I don't understand why fans would not hold their management responsible for the performance of their team. I do!

But you are not a head coach yet you equate his situation to yours. It is not the same.

 

[AZ Native]

I am out of town for 6 weeks. Back to the game, what is the score?

 

[82CardsGrad]

I am out of town for 6 weeks. Back to the game, what is the score?

Offensive explosion! Zero - Zero...Dbacks have now gone 19 consecutive innings without scoring a run! [emoji15]

 

[devilalum]

Maybacks are back.


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[BC867]

0-0 in the bottom of the 5th. D-backs have 2 hits (both by Marte) and the Giants have 4.

 

[BC867]

But you are not a head coach yet you equate his situation to yours. It is not the same.

You know it is not as simple as that.

Torey isn't competing against me. He's competing against the league. I don't see him being innovative or having an approach ready for the stretch run.

And, yes, we have seen him telling the Press one thing, then contradicting it the next day. 'Not a good sign.

I am not the only one posting about their disappointing performance. I'm a fan!

 

[az240zz]

Wow a hit

 

[AZ Native]

You know it is not as simple as that.

Torey isn't competing against me. He's competing against the league. I don't see him being innovative or having an approach ready for the stretch run.

And, yes, we have seen him telling the Press one thing, then contradicting it the next day. 'Not a good sign.

I am not the only one posting about their disappointing performance. I'm a fan!

Yes it is that simple. When did you have a microphone stuck in your face and then have thousands of people question your comments the next day? We are in first place! Enjoy the ride!