As of now the Cardinals pick...

[Evil Ash]

10th according to GBN (http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm)

With us playing a 13 win team next week we should be making a jump up to out of the top 10 for the first time in a long time (remember that opponent's winning percentage is the tie breaker).

 

[CardinalLaw]

10th according to GBN (http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm)

With us playing a 13 win team next week we should be making a jump up to out of the top 10 for the first time in a long time (remember that opponent's winning percentage is the tie breaker).

if it were held today. Opponents' W-L records are for the full
16 game schedule, not just to date.)

It won't jump after this game unless we lose to them.

 

[Evil Ash]

if it were held today. Opponents' W-L records are for the full
16 game schedule, not just to date.)

It won't jump after this game unless we lose to them.

ah my mistake. Still we shouldn't lose to them considering their starters will only play around 2 series so we should still be out of the top 10

 

[CardinalLaw]

ah my mistake. Still we shouldn't lose to them considering their starters will only play around 2 series so we should still be out of the top 10

Yeah it will be nice. I love how San Fran won't get Bush either.

 

[football karma]

Assuming the following (for sake of figuring out the ending draft order):

Cards beat Indy.
GB beats Seattle in GB in a game that means nothing to Seattle,
SF beats the Texans,
Buffalo beats the Jets,
Balt beats Clev

Cards draft 12th.

If they lose, they would draft either 9 or 10.

To make it simple -- Cards fans want the Detroit to beat Pittsburgh and Cleveland to beat the Ravens. If those teams win, even with a Cards win in Indy, they draft 10.

 

[john h]

Assuming the following (for sake of figuring out the ending draft order):

Cards beat Indy.
GB beats Seattle in GB in a game that means nothing to Seattle,
SF beats the Texans,
Buffalo beats the Jets,
Balt beats Clev

Cards draft 12th.

If they lose, they would draft either 9 or 10.

To make it simple -- Cards fans want the Detroit to beat Pittsburgh and Cleveland to beat the Ravens. If those teams win, even with a Cards win in Indy, they draft 10.

If I am running things for the Colts I am not so sure I want to end the season on a three game losing streak? This pumps up their opponents and may place just a little doubt in the minds of Indy. You cannot always just turn it on again. Do not be surprised if they come out with guns ablazing. Perhaps they need to dance with the girl they came with and her name is winning. If they lose out and then lose the first round of the playoffs you can bet their will be a lot of second guessing.

 

[conraddobler]

If I am running things for the Colts I am not so sure I want to end the season on a three game losing streak? This pumps up their opponents and may place just a little doubt in the minds of Indy. You cannot always just turn it on again. Do not be surprised if they come out with guns ablazing. Perhaps they need to dance with the girl they came with and her name is winning. If they lose out and then lose the first round of the playoffs you can bet their will be a lot of second guessing.

And on the other hand if Manning gets his knocked silly by Wilson or some freak play then the 2nd guessing will really start.

 

[ajcardfan]

If I am running things for the Colts I am not so sure I want to end the season on a three game losing streak? This pumps up their opponents and may place just a little doubt in the minds of Indy. You cannot always just turn it on again. Do not be surprised if they come out with guns ablazing. Perhaps they need to dance with the girl they came with and her name is winning. If they lose out and then lose the first round of the playoffs you can bet their will be a lot of second guessing.

There will be even more second guessing if Adrian Wilson knocks Manning out of the playoffs by separating his shoulder on a sack. Now, THAT would be some second guessing!

 

[SeaChicken]

Do you guys know who you want in this draft? Is there a particular player that you covet with the pick? Bush, Leinart and Ferguson should all be gone by then. But then again, they said Aaron Rodgers was going first overall and we all know how that turned out.

What's up with the league nowadays? How many games do you have to lose to get a decent pick? The year we drafted Marcus Trufant we had gone 7-9 the year before and picked 11th. We would have picked 10th but we lost a coin flip to Baltimore. I'm just saying that it seems like you can darn near finish winless and still be fighting for a top pick. Just kinda weird.

BTW, if it sounds like there is a slam in this post, it's not intended. Just making a genuine observation on draft positioning.

 

[CT Card Fan]

Hmmmm

Houston wins
NO loses, gets moved to LA, and drafts Bush (or Leinart)

 

[earthsci]

Do you guys know who you want in this draft? Is there a particular player that you covet with the pick? Bush, Leinart and Ferguson should all be gone by then. But then again, they said Aaron Rodgers was going first overall and we all know how that turned out.

Looking at that draft order, if we win and all of the 5-10 teams and worse lose we would pick 14. Actually, the Jets would need to beat Buffalo and Houston would need to beat SF. At 14 we would want to pick the BPA at the positions of QB, OT, DT, FS, OG, possibly RB. If Mario Williams or Mathias Kiwanuka fell to 14 it would be hard to pass on them even though we have Okeafor and Berry.

 

[az jam]

Do you guys know who you want in this draft? Is there a particular player that you covet with the pick? Bush, Leinart and Ferguson should all be gone by then. But then again, they said Aaron Rodgers was going first overall and we all know how that turned out.

What's up with the league nowadays? How many games do you have to lose to get a decent pick? The year we drafted Marcus Trufant we had gone 7-9 the year before and picked 11th. We would have picked 10th but we lost a coin flip to Baltimore. I'm just saying that it seems like you can darn near finish winless and still be fighting for a top pick. Just kinda weird.

BTW, if it sounds like there is a slam in this post, it's not intended. Just making a genuine observation on draft positioning.

I think we will have to wait to see what underclassmen declare and the final draft order. Denny normally always goes for best player available which lots of times also is a need. At this point I can see us going for an offensive lineman or defensive tackle. A power running back and qb of the future are also high on the list. Of course it would be nice to sign free agent Shaun Alexander from the Seahawks

 

[ajcardfan]

I think we will have to wait to see what underclassmen declare and the final draft order. Denny normally always goes for best player available which lots of times also is a need. At this point I can see us going for an offensive lineman or defensive tackle. A power running back and qb of the future are also high on the list. Of course it would be nice to sign free agent Shaun Alexander from the Seahawks

There are so many directions we could take at this point. None of use will really have a clue until we see what happens in free agency. If anyone actually guesses our pick correctly at this time, it's pure luck.

 

[TX BIG RED FAN]

Tired of Cards drafting after the blue chipppers are gone

10th according to GBN (http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm)

With us playing a 13 win team next week we should be making a jump up to out of the top 10 for the first time in a long time (remember that opponent's winning percentage is the tie breaker).

Sorry, but I don't understand why we as Cardinals' fans should want them to draft out of the top 10, or 5, or 3. Unless of course, it meant they were in the play-offs. To me, I would have preferred that the Cards had lost some of those meaningless, pressureless (move you down th draft) games, and they would have been in the running for Reggie Bush or Leinart. They, need playmakers. Also, IMO the off-season would have been more exciting if the Cards were to hqve been in the Bush, Leinart sweepstakes.

Having said that, IMO, the NFL needs a lottery system in place. There is no question that,on average, the Cards are perenially one of the worst teams in the NFL. But, on average, they don't draft as high as a team that is as bad as they are year in and year out. The irony, is that they may best be served by "hitting "rock bottom", before they can rise above their year in and year out mediocrity, by finally drafting high enough to land the elite players.

JMO


To all, a late Merry Christmas, and have a safe and happy New Year!


TX BIG RED FAN

 

[TX BIG RED FAN]

Yeah it will be nice. I love how San Fran won't get Bush either.

That is satisfying

 

[Doc Cardinal]

I covet the most important player on any football team.

If your QB sucks then you suck.

 

[clif]

I covet the most important player on any football team.

If your QB sucks then you suck.

 

[joeshmo]

Sorry, but I don't understand why we as Cardinals' fans should want them to draft out of the top 10, or 5, or 3.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that would mean we WON more games. Playoffs or not losing is for losers. Win as many games as possible, period.

You ever wonder about why certian teams are always picking in the top 10 year after year getting these so called playmakers, and still suck year after year. Paying these kids more money then any other player on the team even though they havent played a single down.

Good teams still seem to find good talent in picks after the top 10 why couldnt we?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I covet the most important player on any football team.

If your QB sucks then you suck.

Tell that to the 2001 Ravens

 

[Evil Ash]

Do you guys know who you want in this draft? Is there a particular player that you covet with the pick? Bush, Leinart and Ferguson should all be gone by then. But then again, they said Aaron Rodgers was going first overall and we all know how that turned out.

What's up with the league nowadays? How many games do you have to lose to get a decent pick? The year we drafted Marcus Trufant we had gone 7-9 the year before and picked 11th. We would have picked 10th but we lost a coin flip to Baltimore. I'm just saying that it seems like you can darn near finish winless and still be fighting for a top pick. Just kinda weird.

BTW, if it sounds like there is a slam in this post, it's not intended. Just making a genuine observation on draft positioning.

As of now we could go any number of different ways but the most likely ways for us to go would doing whatever it takes to fix our inability to run the ball (picking Olineman and maybe a RB but I doubt it) and the inability to stop the run (a DT that demands a double team or LB help). Those are the two things that should be the highest priority this offseason but it all of course depends on what happens in FA.

There is also the possibility of taking a QB in the first round but with Green's job on the line this year, I doubt he takes one in the first 2 rounds. He might take one in round 3 or later such as Drew Olson from UCLA ... JMHO of course

 

[TX BIG RED FAN]

Maybe it has to do with the fact that would mean we WON more games. Playoffs or not losing is for losers. Win as many games as possible, period.

You ever wonder about why certian teams are always picking in the top 10 year after year getting these so called playmakers, and still suck year after year. Paying these kids more money then any other player on the team even though they havent played a single down.

You bring up a good point, but just for the record. I was watching ESPN last evening, and they had a clip from a San Francisco broadcaster. He said, Hey, I can tolerate watching one more lousy loss, for a chance to see Reggie Bush run for the Niners for the next 10 years.
Win as many meaningful games as you can, but once the season is "over", think about the future(in how you prepare the team and who you give playing time.
Good teams still seem to find good talent in picks after the top 10 why couldnt we?

Another good point, and I think the Cards do draft pretty good (at least recently) I think that Arrington would have put up big numbers in a Dallas for instance.

What they need is a coach ( I think Denny is a good talent evaluator, but not a good coachIMHO . When the Parcells or the Charlie Weises of th league are out there, they never seem to be on the Cards short list. Or, the Cards are not on their short list. In a league with all the rules in place the NFL has for parity, theoretically, the talent should be somewhat blanced. This makes the caoaching more important than ever IMO
The goal should be to WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, NOT 5 -7 GAMES.



I don't hear the Steeler fans of the 70's, or Cowboy fans of th 90's apoligizing for the lousy teams that brought them high draft picks, and the SUPER BOWL TRIUMPHS that followed.

No offence, but fans worrying about their favorite team getting to 6 or 7 wins is funny.

Sorry about this lousy keyboarding, spacing, spelling (you name it

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I think we will have to wait to see what underclassmen declare and the final draft order. Denny normally always goes for best player available which lots of times also is a need. At this point I can see us going for an offensive lineman or defensive tackle. A power running back and qb of the future are also high on the list. Of course it would be nice to sign free agent Shaun Alexander from the Seahawks[/qu





Shaun Alexander has too much mileage on him for my taste.He will be 29 next year. Running backs slow down after 30. He will want too much money. I would rather we grow our own

 

[ajcardfan]

I think we will have to wait to see what underclassmen declare and the final draft order. Denny normally always goes for best player available which lots of times also is a need. At this point I can see us going for an offensive lineman or defensive tackle. A power running back and qb of the future are also high on the list. Of course it would be nice to sign free agent Shaun Alexander from the Seahawks[/qu





Shaun Alexander has too much mileage on him for my taste.He will be 29 next year. Running backs slow down after 30. He will want too much money. I would rather we grow our own

Yes, I'm afraid Alexander would only score maybe half as many TDs the next couple of seasons as he did this year. I mean, with all the great RB play we've witnessed here, who cares about a lousy dozen, or so, TDS?

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Yes, I'm afraid Alexander would only score maybe half as many TDs the next couple of seasons as he did this year. I mean, with all the great RB play we've witnessed here, who cares about a lousy dozen, or so, TDS?

you probably said the same thing when emmit smith came to town.

 

[ajcardfan]

you probably said the same thing when emmit smith came to town.

Emmitt Smith and Shaun Alexander could run on peg legs and walkers and STILL get more TDs than Arrington and Shipp!