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Errntknght said:
Khryapa is the Blazer I covet for his attitude, activity and strength. He seemed to brush aside any of our frontcourt players when a rebound was at issue. In one of the games against us he even shot well but doesn't seem yet to be consistent as a shooter.

It sounds as if Blazers not gonna trade him away anytime soon;)
 

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elindholm said:
I'd be surprised if the Blazers would give up on Telfair, but he is at least intriguing.

The thing with Telfair is that it was John nash who drafted him, and now that Nash is gone, he may not be as entrenched in Portland as you'd expect. With Blake and Jack doing reasonable jobs as PG they might be willing to unload Telfair for a pick. If you read Telfair's book, nash and Portland were the one team that was willing to commit to picking him in the first round and Nash was out on a limb in that regard, it was not a unanimous feeling in portland that they should pick him.

Telfair in the Phoenix offense would be fun to watch although he still has a lot of holes in his game, there's no doubting he can lead the break and deliver the pass.
 

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I think Telfair would be a credible PG acquisition for the Suns, but I have a harder time believing Portland would deal a potential talent like Telfair to a Western Conference foe -- particularly one that has cultivated a short history of turning reclamation projects into valuable pieces.

Then, of course, I never imagined the Trailblazers, with true Microsoft blue-blood money coarsing through its veins, filing for bankruptcy and complaining about its arena deal. So maybe they're in such disarray, no one over there will be paying attention to the basketball end of operations.
 

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Originally I was thinking Brevan Knight, but now I think the Suns will look for a fast defensive minded pt. gaurd since Diaw and Amare will be running the pick and roll to death when steve sits next season.
 

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but now I think the Suns will look for a fast defensive minded pt. gaurd

This is a "no Earl Watson" zone. Just FYI.
 

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What the Suns need is a player who can produce reliably off the bench. Telfair is too young IMO, even if the Suns could get him.

Claxton will be too expensive. The Suns can't afford to pay more than a couple of million dollars a year.

"Jay" Williams is making noise about coming back to the NBA next season. He's one of those catch-22 players IMO--if the Suns are able to get him, he's not worth their money.

Antonio Burks is a RFA this summer. The problem is, he apparently only plays well against the Suns, so if the Suns sign him, he might not play well against anybody.



I still think that Anthony Carter makes as much sense as anybody for the Suns. He's a better player than Troy Hudson, but he couldn't beat out Hudson's gargantuan contract...he wouldn't have that problem in a Suns uniform. :)
 

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F-Dog said:
I still think that Anthony Carter makes as much sense as anybody for the Suns. He's a better player than Troy Hudson, but he couldn't beat out Hudson's gargantuan contract...he wouldn't have that problem in a Suns uniform. :)

As long as he doesn't suddenly transform into Anthony Goldwire, thumbs up to that move.
 

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Gaddabout said:
This is a "no Earl Watson" zone. Just FYI.

Yes, our PG has to be able to shoot or the defense will just sag off of him.
 

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The thing with Telfair is that it was John nash who drafted him, and now that Nash is gone, he may not be as entrenched in Portland as you'd expect. With Blake and Jack doing reasonable jobs as PG they might be willing to unload Telfair for a pick. If you read Telfair's book, nash and Portland were the one team that was willing to commit to picking him in the first round and Nash was out on a limb in that regard, it was not a unanimous feeling in portland that they should pick him.

Telfair in the Phoenix offense would be fun to watch although he still has a lot of holes in his game, there's no doubting he can lead the break and deliver the pass.

Like I said I've heard a lot of local speculation on Telfair's fate. I wonder how high the pick would need to be?
 

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Here is a piece by Draft Express http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1321 on Jay Williams.

Jay Williams might find the Suns the perfect place to make his comeback. He could fill the Eddie House role, but he's more of a 1 than Eddie. The real problem would be to try to sign him. If we could split the MLE between him and TT it would be ideal, but thats probably not realistic.
 

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How many folks think Rondo would be ready to contribute? I barely watch college ball. DraftExpress had a report that the Suns tried out Adams vs. Diaz, Horton, and Rondo and that Adams shut them all down. Those of you that have seen Rondo: can he create his own shot and is it a testament to Adams' superb defense that he was dominated? Could just be worthless gossip though. Anyhow I'm beginning to get sold on the idea of Rondo.
 

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panfolk said:
How many folks think Rondo would be ready to contribute? I barely watch college ball. DraftExpress had a report that the Suns tried out Adams vs. Diaz, Horton, and Rondo and that Adams shut them all down. Those of you that have seen Rondo: can he create his own shot and is it a testament to Adams' superb defense that he was dominated? Could just be worthless gossip though. Anyhow I'm beginning to get sold on the idea of Rondo.

Rondo cant shoot, so adams could play off a little to limit the penetrations. That is how the NBA will play rondo, until he proves he can shoot there will be very small passing lanes(a la JKidd). Adams is a defensive stud, and the suns should try to pick him up after they get a backup point guard.
 

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panfolk said:
How many folks think Rondo would be ready to contribute? I barely watch college ball. DraftExpress had a report that the Suns tried out Adams vs. Diaz, Horton, and Rondo and that Adams shut them all down. Those of you that have seen Rondo: can he create his own shot and is it a testament to Adams' superb defense that he was dominated? Could just be worthless gossip though. Anyhow I'm beginning to get sold on the idea of Rondo.

Rondo gets to the hoop at will against pretty much anyone, including Adams. He struggles against any defender that can get a hand in his face.
 

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If I had my choice, it would be Sam Cassell.


i can't think of anyone on this board that wouldn't make sam i am their choice if it was even the least bit realistic. unfortunately, it isn't.

love rondo. have loved him for some time. think he'd be an excellent backup with his athleticism and court vision and defensive tenacity initially and with time and work on his shot i think he could be another kj, but better defensively.
 

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Gaddabout said:
He struggles against any defender that can get a hand in his face.

Wouldn't that big of a problem preclude him from the lottery? How serious would you say his inability to get an outside shot off is?
 

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Ouchie-Z-Clown said:
ilove rondo. have loved him for some time. think he'd be an excellent backup with his athleticism and court vision and defensive tenacity initially and with time and work on his shot i think he could be another kj, but better defensively.

I cant imagine a guy who "cant shoot" will become another KJ. KJ was a "lights out" mid range shooter, among other things. Is Rondo as fast as KJ? I dont know, but that would be very fast. He sounds like a guy with a big upside and might be worth the 21st pick.
 

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Rondo is pretty damn fast. He can't shoot, but that can be taught. Diaw couldn't shoot before this season either. Iggy was a prospect 2 years ago that couldn't shoot either, but he got good enough before draft to make is passable.

Rondo is working out at Tim Grover's gym. From someone I know who works there - he has been looking really good lately. I would be very surprised if he was available when we picked.
 

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Ouchie-Z-Clown said:
love rondo. have loved him for some time. think he'd be an excellent backup with his athleticism and court vision and defensive tenacity initially and with time and work on his shot i think he could be another kj, but better defensively.

Are you saying that KJ wasn't very good defensively? He was the only one that somewhat limited Jordan back in the '93 Finals. Our defensive stopper (Thunder Dan) couldn't stop him at all that year.
 

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Chaplin said:
Are you saying that KJ wasn't very good defensively? He was the only one that somewhat limited Jordan back in the '93 Finals. Our defensive stopper (Thunder Dan) couldn't stop him at all that year.

I've always wondered why people were so low on KJ's defense and so high on Marjele's.
 
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Frankly I think Majerle is among the most overrated players in Suns history. He played with great fire his first two or three years, but once he fell in love with the three-point line, he just wasn't that dynamic a player.
 

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elindholm said:
Frankly I think Majerle is among the most overrated players in Suns history. He played with great fire his first two or three years, but once he fell in love with the three-point line, he just wasn't that dynamic a player.

I never felt Thunder Dan was quick enough to play SG. His early years as an SF were better suited to his skills, but with Barkley and Chambers at forward, Dan was forced to play SG.
 

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Besides athletic ability, smarts have a lot to do with good defense. Bell and Bowen were not really athletic. Nash played better defense on Manu in last year's WCF than Q and JJ.
 
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I never felt Thunder Dan was quick enough to play SG. His early years as an SF were better suited to his skills

Yes, good point. Unfortunately he was undersized at SF and tended to get abused defensively. In that respect he was a classic tweener.
 

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