Bears at Cardinals gameday thread 11-3-24

[BritCard]

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[Ronin]

Mark Dalton

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Trey McBride, Trey Benson & Emari Demercado scored rushing TDs in 1st half of yesterday's win vs CHIIt was the first time in more than a century the Cards had 3 different players score 1st half rush TDsLast: 12/2/1923 vs Oorang Indians, a team led by player/coach Jim Thorpe

 

[BritCard]

Been a while since Cards fans could poo talk

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[Cheesebeef]

Hopefully you are okay. I read where you had a limp.

appreciate that. it's getting a little better day by day... and it's got to be because the Ouchie/Cheese fam has a BIG wedding coming up on Friday!

Can't sit out the Hora!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Mark Dalton
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The Cardinals were penalized just twice in yesterday's win over CHI, the 6th time this season with 4 or fewer in a game.AZ's 41 total penalties this season are 2nd fewest in the NFL behind only Chiefs' 39 (KC plays tonight on MNF).

This might be my favorite thing about these cards.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[BritCard]

Mike is making sure the casitas get some love after a TD

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[BritCard]

This was smart from Petzing

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[BritCard]

Good Athletic write up here about how Petzing outsmarted Eberflus

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5898110/2024/11/05/nfl-week-9-worst-best-coaching-decisions-nguyen/

 

[oaken1]

Good Athletic write up here about how Petzing outsmarted Eberflus

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5898110/2024/11/05/nfl-week-9-worst-best-coaching-decisions-nguyen/

can you post a paste with the link please... it is apparently subscription as it will not let me read it

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Good Athletic write up here about how Petzing outsmarted Eberflus

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5898110/2024/11/05/nfl-week-9-worst-best-coaching-decisions-nguyen/

fIrE pEtZiNg ! ! !

 

[daves]

can you post a paste with the link please... it is apparently subscription as it will not let me read it

Some excerpts (but it's way better with pictures!):

Drew Petzing outclasses Matt Eberflus​

The matchup between the Bears defense and Cardinals offense was a heavyweight fight. Coming into the game, against base defenses (four defensive backs), the Cardinals led the league in explosive play rate (14.9 percent) and were third in offensive success rate (52.4 percent). The Bears defense led the league in defensive success rate with their base defense.

The Cardinals, who forced the Bears into their base defense frequently with multiple tight end sets, rushed for 114 yards on 23 carries against base. One reason the Bears defense has been effective from base is they have a very good third off-ball linebacker, Jack Sanborn, which is a rarity in today’s NFL. The Cardinals’ game plan was to take Sanborn out of the mix with formations, and the Bears didn’t adjust.


Here, the Cardinals lined up in a slot formation (two receivers to one side) to the right with two tight ends to the left. The Bears were in a two-deep safety look, so Sanborn had to widen out to the slot, taking him out of position to defend the run.

The Cardinals had a trap play called toward the two tight ends side away from Sanborn. On a trap play, the play-side end is left unblocked for a puller to block him.

The play was well-blocked, Sanborn was too far away to make an impact and the play-side safety was too deep to make a play before running back James Conner gained 15 yards.


Later in the game, the Cardinals lined up in an unbalanced formation with right tackle Kelvin Beachum lined up at tight end to the left and two actual tight ends lined up to the right.

The Cardinals also had a wide receiver lined up outside to the right, so the Bears had to commit extra defenders to that side. Sanborn lined up to the right. Because the Bears were in a two-deep look, they didn’t have enough defenders to account for the extra gap created by Beachum. The Cardinals called a counter run to Beachum’s side.

Again, Sanborn wasn’t in position to make a play on the run and the play-side safety was too deep to defend the run on time.

The third play they covered was the one posted earlier, where Eberflus overcompensated for being in prevent last week and allowing the Commanders to get to mid-field and into position for the Hail Mary; this time in the exact same situation (12 seconds left in the half and the Cards needing about 10 yards to get in position for a Hail Mary) the defense lined up in two deep, but Eberflus called a nickel blitz, Petzing called the pin-and-pull sweep, and Demercado ran 53 yards to paydirt. Could've been dumb luck... or did Petzing anticipate that Eberflus would be more aggressive in this situation, and take perfect advantage?

 

[SoonerLou]

Some excerpts (but it's way better with pictures!):

The third play they covered was the one posted earlier, where Eberflus overcompensated for being in prevent last week and allowing the Commanders to get to mid-field and into position for the Hail Mary; this time in the exact same situation (12 seconds left in the half and the Cards needing about 10 yards to get in position for a Hail Mary) the defense lined up in two deep, but Eberflus called a nickel blitz, Petzing called the pin-and-pull sweep, and Demercado ran 53 yards to paydirt. Could've been dumb luck... or did Petzing anticipate that Eberflus would be more aggressive in this situation, and take perfect advantage?

Kyler said they were hoping to get 5 yards on the play.


Glad it worked out.

 

[AZ Native]

Some excerpts (but it's way better with pictures!):

The third play they covered was the one posted earlier, where Eberflus overcompensated for being in prevent last week and allowing the Commanders to get to mid-field and into position for the Hail Mary; this time in the exact same situation (12 seconds left in the half and the Cards needing about 10 yards to get in position for a Hail Mary) the defense lined up in two deep, but Eberflus called a nickel blitz, Petzing called the pin-and-pull sweep, and Demercado ran 53 yards to paydirt. Could've been dumb luck... or did Petzing anticipate that Eberflus would be more aggressive in this situation, and take perfect advantage?

It's one of those plays that Drew drew up that is ripe for failure and all the fan base criticizing him. But if it works, he is a genius. Drew is not afraid of making those calls and standing beside them. He is a bit of a gunslinger.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

It's one of those plays that Drew drew up that is ripe for failure and all the fan base criticizing him. But if it works, he is a genius. Drew is not afraid of making those calls and standing beside them. He is a bit of a gunslinger.

And obviously DP's philosophy/scheme heavily favors running the ball vs. passing the ball. He'll run on you until you stop the run.

Personally I like it. I like the physical mentality of running teams, and the way running the football effectively beats up opposing defenses.

You don't see defenders on the ground after a pass play much, but it's more common on a running play. Who would you rather tackle? MHJ or James Conner?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

And obviously DP's philosophy/scheme heavily favors running the ball vs. passing the ball. He'll run on you until you stop the run.

Personally I like it. I like the physical mentality of running teams, and the way running the football effectively beats up opposing defenses.

You don't see defenders on the ground after a pass play much, but it's more common on a running play. Who would you rather tackle? MHJ or James Conner?

MHJ hands down

JC is going to make you remember hitting him

 

[SoonerLou]

And obviously DP's philosophy/scheme heavily favors running the ball vs. passing the ball. He'll run on you until you stop the run.

Personally I like it. I like the physical mentality of running teams, and the way running the football effectively beats up opposing defenses.

You don't see defenders on the ground after a pass play much, but it's more common on a running play. Who would you rather tackle? MHJ or James Conner?

I like it as a counter, but don't love it as the main offense.

This is the style of play I wanted Kliff to implement after we lost Hopkins. However, if MHJ is or becomes a great #1 WR then this style is limiting. 49ers have the same dominant running the ball approach and had Jimmy G still throwing for 250 yards a game.

 

[football karma]

Some excerpts (but it's way better with pictures!):

The third play they covered was the one posted earlier, where Eberflus overcompensated for being in prevent last week and allowing the Commanders to get to mid-field and into position for the Hail Mary; this time in the exact same situation (12 seconds left in the half and the Cards needing about 10 yards to get in position for a Hail Mary) the defense lined up in two deep, but Eberflus called a nickel blitz, Petzing called the pin-and-pull sweep, and Demercado ran 53 yards to paydirt. Could've been dumb luck... or did Petzing anticipate that Eberflus would be more aggressive in this situation, and take perfect advantage?

also what is implied by this: if that third LB flexed inside to stop the run -- the play likely changes to a pass play

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I like it as a counter, but don't love it as the main offense.

This is the style of play I wanted Kliff to implement after we lost Hopkins. However, if MHJ is or becomes a great #1 WR then this style is limiting. 49ers have the same dominant running the ball approach and had Jimmy G still throwing for 250 yards a game.

I guess it comes down to featuring what an offense is best at.

If an offense is lethal through the air, sure, throw it all over the yard, haha. It's more fun for the fans for sure.

I guess at the moment, and while MHJ gets up to speed, we're better at running the ball. Hope that changes because I think you're right. In today's NFL, a strong passing attack is required to win a championship.

 

[BritCard]

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