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I guess I have to put everything I have to say in spoilers.

Gus had to die because this show has always been about Walt vs. Jesse. Gus had officially gotten in the way of that because he was ultimately a uniting factor for Walt and Jesse. Every season they find new ways to pit them against each other. Of course, it's more clear now, but everyone else is a bit player compared to those two. In a show rich in metaphors, none are more apt than the father vs. son epic they've built here. Only at this point, they've turned Jesse into the unlikely hero, and that's something I never saw coming, even though I understood at the beginning the very premise was about a good man (Walt) going bad.

Based on what we can only assume Walt did now (poison the kid) (and I emphasize 'assume,' because you never really know with this show), he's past the point of return. The writers used Gus to paint that universe's ethos (and pretty much any other universe with a concept of real justice): True evil is shown when you're willing to put the innocent in harm's way to get what you want. Based on a single selfish act, they've made Walt unredeemable.

Jesse now is carrying the torch for justice. His life now has cosmic meaning, even though he doesn't know it yet.

One of my screenwriter friends explains his job in very simple turns: Create a hero anyone can root for, run him up a tree, throw rocks at him, then bring him down. He said it's a formula you should never break and it's more challenging than it sounds. Not everyone can do the first three in a compelling manner, and only a select few can do the last two in a satisfying way. Vince Gilligan? You're on the clock, and you've inspired a lot of faith!
 
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And by the way ...

I walked away thinking the one problem they had with killing Gus was basically taking Hank out of the storyline, but I've come around to just how tidy this last episode was. By setting it on fire and killing Gus, the laundry facility will obviously reveal all the meth chemicals, putting Gus in a relationship with a member of the Mexican Mafia, all giving Hank supreme credibility now. He's actually a bigger player than he was before this episode.

I'm sure the rest of you figured that out immediately, but I was so hyperfocused on primary story arc, I didn't think about it until just now.
 

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http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly.../breaking-bad-finale-recap-plants-and-animals

Nice little wrap up for the finale, here is an excerpt...

It’s been speculated elsewhere that the shot a couple weeks ago at the end of “Crawl Space” that made it look like Walt was cackling in a grave really did mark the death of “Walter White” and the completion of his transformation into a full-time Heisenberg. His subsequent actions have a cold, murderous detachment that other Morally Slippery Cable-TV Primary Protagonist Hall of Famers lack — Tony Soprano’s commitment to his family (Christopher excluded), or at least his interest in eating fried food with them, led to his demise (or did it?); Don Draper is more confused than devious. When he tells Skyler, “I won,” that’s Heisenberg declaring victory over Walt, not Walt declaring victory over Gus. Here’s hoping the whole thing ends with a one-man fistfight in a parking garage.
 

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It would be a fantasy if this series ended with the demise of the Crystal Meth industry, so it could be a Jesse vs. Walt thing next season with a winner take all. Jesse is not doing badly for a character that was intended to be offed in the middle of the first season.
 
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And by the way ...

I walked away thinking the one problem they had with killing Gus was basically taking Hank out of the storyline, but I've come around to just how tidy this last episode was. By setting it on fire and killing Gus, the laundry facility will obviously reveal all the meth chemicals, putting Gus in a relationship with a member of the Mexican Mafia, all giving Hank supreme credibility now. He's actually a bigger player than he was before this episode.

I'm sure the rest of you figured that out immediately, but I was so hyperfocused on primary story arc, I didn't think about it until just now.

definitely. Hank's the super genius now... and pride won't let Walt stop cooking. he's had a taste of the good life and is going to get it no matter what... not to mention, we never heard the results of Walt's MRI. That was a scene planted in the middle of the chaos which Walt specifically avoided answering the question to later that episode. Will be interesting to see if that pays off somehow next season where we realize that Walt is sick again... which will also push him back cooking... which means the blue meth will be back on the street and that means Hank will be back on the case.

In the end, you gotta think this thing comes down to Jesse v. Walt v. Hank and who wins is anyone's ballgame.
 
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It would be a fantasy if this series ended with the demise of the Crystal Meth industry, so it could be a Jesse vs. Walt thing next season with a winner take all. Jesse is not doing badly for a character that was intended to be offed in the middle of the first season.

not only that, but read an article will about Giancarlo yesterday where Gilligan said Gus was originally just a three episode runner and just turned into a uncontrollable freight train of ideas that just pushed the room forward, changing him from a three episode arc to a two season arc.
 

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Ya man. This show makes me paranoid for no reason.

I told you not to watch this stuff back-to-back-to-back. You'll start feeling it necessary to frisk the relatives at Christmas parties and stuff.
 

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I told you not to watch this stuff back-to-back-to-back. You'll start feeling it necessary to frisk the relatives at Christmas parties and stuff.

Seriously. And what is up with Sklyerz's puffyfaceness in season 3?
 

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holy crap. just watched 3 seasons since Saturday (about 5 days.) I'm hooked. got my buddy and his wife addicted too.
I don't know what it is, this show just caught me and... I don't know.,. great show.
 
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holy crap. just watched 3 seasons since Saturday (about 5 days.) I'm hooked. got my buddy and his wife addicted too.
I don't know what it is, this show just caught me and... I don't know.,. great show.

the show is like the drug the entire story revolves around... once you start, you can't stop.
 

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You guys, the season was short because of the writer's strike...future seasons will likely be the cable norm of like 13 episodes.

I am pretty sure it's coming back too.

I recently watched season 1. Flippin fantastic. I love shows that have a main character that you probably shouldn't root for, but you do anyway.

I was surprised how short the season was, really looking forward to a 13 episode season.
 

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Via Aaron Paul on twitter:
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Just read the first episode of breaking bad S5 and words can not express. **** is about to get crazy. Get ready my friends. Love you Vince!

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The teaser alone in episode 1 S5 will have you screaming more then when someone got blown up last season.

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Breaking Bad will return to your Television sometime in July. Make sure u wear your diapers because I'm pretty sure u will **** yourself.

July can not get here soon enough.
 

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