Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
No no, you said "Now he's traded and we're tanking?"
Who has been saying this?
Of course there's been talk of getting rid of him.
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Who has been saying this?
Of course there's been talk of getting rid of him.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
If we don't have a clue about Collins yet, when will we? In year 6, 7? He's had more than enough time to impress, and hasn't. Another wasted 1st round pick.
BACH
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He impressed a NFL GM enough to give him 8M a year based on his play TC in his second year in a new system playing a new position. None of us has seen that in an actual game, hence we have no clue.
But I guess you know better...
Lame take.
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What's lame is having a major hole at arguably the most important position on D, and doing basically nothing to fix the problem. People are completely justified in expressing their disgust at the Cardinals wasting 2 years in a row not trying to compete. Good franchises just don't do it.
Yea I can’t really agree with this. We have an idea of what he may be but we don’t really know yet. Since his first two years he was being told to play ILB. He could improve quite a bit this year at OLB or he could be a total dud. Hard to say at this point.
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He's a below average starter with what appears to be a ceiling of average starter. That's a first round bust, esp as a top 16 pick.
I don’t think we really know yet. This year will be the tell for sure imo. When You’re told for two full seasons to play ILB and you are suddenly thrust into a new system new position there is going to be some growing pains. There are some things he did adequately last year even so. The game/position could possibly slow down for him this year and see some marked improvement… But maybe not. Too early to say imo.
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I hope you're right, but I'm not seeing a Reddick like ascendance...more of a solid against the run weak against the pass OLB that is dependable but unspectacular.
You could totally be right…. I have hopium over here
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The Hopium was BJ didn’t get injured and took the next step.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Ah, okay, a poster did mention a tank. Gross!
Goldfield
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Cant agree completely we used a 2nd round pick on a pass rusher who got injured. It isn’t like Edge is easy to find. Does it Edge need to improve of course. They had to fix lots of positions on this team. I’m still hoping for a trade but who knows.
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I hear what you're saying, but we're also sitting on 35M of cash. We could have easily afforded a decent pass rush option, and decided not to do so for reasons. Ask Yoda about trying...
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They’re even harder to find when you basically don’t even look for them.
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Between taking Kyler Murray with the first pick in 2019 and stepping down after the 2022 season, Steve Keim made 31 draft picks.Only four of those players remain with the Cardinals: Zaven Collins, Victor Dimukeje, Trey McBride, Jesse Luketa.
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Between taking Kyler Murray with the first pick in 2019 and stepping down after the 2022 season, Steve Keim made 31 draft picks.Only four of those players remain with the Cardinals: Zaven Collins, Victor Dimukeje, Trey McBride, Jesse Luketa.
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Hey, man. He did select and extend all four of the Cards top Edge players.
Garthshort
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Better known as, "The Core Four".
Myjai had 7 tackles last season for the Texans. Demeco Ryans and his staff couldn’t get anything out of him either? Wanna talk Giants and their 4 tackle superstar Isaiah Simmons?
Come on now, mount an actual argument.
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Agreed. I was very surprised to see Monti pursue DB so aggressively and do very little with the EDGE room.
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lol. There’s really no limit with you.
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I will say average at best. NR is gonna have to be creative with pressures. I just hope our CB play is better this year, if not, it could get ugly.
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Or when you trade out of the pick that turns out to be an EDGE who wins DROY.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
That's with two offseasons to work with, though. One 2nd round pick and...crickets (and a late-round pick, to be fair), isn't doing much. And while they had a lot of positions to fix, it is arguably the second most important position on the team. It should have been a priority and wasn't.
