BS. Suns traded away #7 for a future pick, #31 and cash

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Just saw this on ESPN.

They better be up to SOMETHING. This pisses me off slightly.. :hulk:
 

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Here's a quote:

However, after the Magic announced that they wouldn't be making a T-Mac trade until after the draft, the Suns grew impatient and agreed to the swap with the Bulls.


While Suns sources wouldn't characterize the talks with the Magic as "dead," they claim that they are no longer in active discussions with the Magic for McGrady.


Why would the Suns give up a high lottery pick for only a future first-rounder? The Suns didn't feel that any player left at No. 7 would help their team immediately. They also wanted the extra cap space. By getting the No. 7 pick off their books, the Suns are suddenly looking at $16.3 million in cap space this summer to make a run at free agents.
 

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Yes, unless they get Kobe what is the point of obtaining every last dollar of cap space?
 

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this sucks right now. This team better get freaking Kobe - I swear to god if we come out of this f*cking offseason with any combo of Nash/Okur/Barry I am going to absolutely f*cking livid. Maybe I just don't understand this team anymore. And we're apparently out of the running for McGrady - this just doesn't make any kind of sense whatsoever.
 

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So they trade a lotto pick this year for a lotto pick next year.

All I have to say is they better do something big with all that cap room.
 

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Maybe they're making a run at Nash afterall.

I guess including Nash in our starting 5 would make this team much better...

:shrug:
 

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First off, somebody better start a few more threads on this.

Secondly, I really hope that their next move is to trade JJ and Marion for T-Mac, then use all this capspace to fill out their roster. Smartly.
 

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If the NBA establishes an age min. before next year the draft will be the worst in the history of the league.
 

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As much as I wanted them to get Tmac, I have to sit back and hope that they ATLEAST sign Nash.

Nash
Johnson
Marion
Amare
Lampe??

I can deal with that. Nash is solid, but I would have loved Nash + Tmac.

Ugh, forget it...
THEY BETTER DO SOMETHING BIG!

Kobe, anyone?
 

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if the only big move this squad makes is Steve Freaking Nash we will NEVER, i repeat NEVER win a title. Something big better be coming up - I am absolutely shocked right now.
 

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And you're right ford, they still might have a slight (read: very small) chance at trading JJ + Marion for Tmac.

Or maybe the Magic have convinced BC to give them Amare + Marion! :wave:
 

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I don't see how this effects the TMac discussions that much.

Orlando might prefer a future lotto pick to the #7 this year anyway given that they already have the #1.

That Chicago pick will probably end up being top 5 in 2005 or 06.

Chicago is going nowhere fast.
 

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actually, if there is a new collective bargaining agreement that includes an age limit, next year should be one of the deepest ever, because it'll be the LAST one before an age limit is implemented (hence all the young'uns come forward)
 

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I still wouldnt take this trade seriously until there is an official announcement from both teams....

Can the ESPN "Insider" be none other than Jim Gray?

I know Chad Ford is the one who reported it, however, is he repuable to begin with?
 
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playstation said:
actually, if there is a new collective bargaining agreement that includes an age limit, next year should be one of the deepest ever, because it'll be the LAST one before an age limit is implemented (hence all the young'uns come forward)

If what you say is true and the Suns get the pick in 06 then that will be the worst draft ever.
 

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They could change their trade package for TMac to Marion, JJ, and Jacobson (maybe Lampe).

Although initially I was pissed, I can understand why the Suns were pissed. They offered the best deal possible and the Maic shrugged them off and said they aren't going to make a trade until after the draft. I mean considering our deal involved a draft pick ... how much longer could the Suns wait?

Why draft a player for the Magic if they can suddenly change their minds and accept the Rockets deal?

So its not over, they just have to adjust
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
I still wouldnt take this trade seriously until there is an official announcement from both teams....

Can the ESPN "Insider" be none other than Jim Gray?

Good point. I saw the report on ESPNews 1 time and they haven't repeated it.

Anyone see confirmation from any other source?
 

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devilalum said:
I don't see how this effects the TMac discussions that much.

Orlando might prefer a future lotto pick to the #7 this year anyway given that they already have the #1.

That Chicago pick will probably end up being top 5 in 2005 or 06.

Chicago is going nowhere fast.

I was thinking the exact same thing just now..
 

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Evil Ash said:
Good point. I saw the report on ESPNews 1 time and they haven't repeated it.

Anyone see confirmation from any other source?
Yeah, perhaps Jerry C. and Co intentionally leaked this report to perhaps to force more urgency on the Magic to deal McGrady more sooner than later.... They obviously know how ESPN is always "hungry" to report anything (regardless if its not from a credilble source or the validity of it) and how immediate of an uproar those reports cause.....Even on NBA.com they're just quoting Ford's report....If this actually was consummated, wouldnt you think they'd have reactions from the actual parties involved?
 

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devilalum said:
I don't see how this effects the TMac discussions that much.

Orlando might prefer a future lotto pick to the #7 this year anyway given that they already have the #1.

That Chicago pick will probably end up being top 5 in 2005 or 06.

Chicago is going nowhere fast.

Great point (although I still haven't seen confirmation for this trade from any other sources yet).
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
Yeah, perhaps Jerry C. and Co intentionally leaked this report to perhaps to force more urgency on the Magic to deal McGrady more sooner than later.... They obviously know how ESPN is always "hungry" to report anything (regardless if its not from a credilble source or the validity of it) and how immediate of an uproar those reports cause.....Even on NBA.com they're just quoting Ford's report....If this actually was consummated, wouldnt you think they'd have reactions from the actual parties involved?

At least a press release :shrug:

I just checked my email and nothing as of this point.

EDIT: Both 910 and 1060 are confirming its a done deal
 
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