Can a Rookie Revamp the Cards’ Safety Lineup

[kerouac9]

You can’t count him as depth yet.

You can’t count him as depth because he’s the clear #1. Our depth is Zay Jones and Greg Dortch and now I have to go lay down for awhile.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You can’t count him as depth because he’s the clear #1. Our depth is Zay Jones and Greg Dortch and now I have to go lay down for awhile.

We hope he’s the clear #1.

 

[bankybruce]

Historically speaking, there are very few Cardinals players in franchise history that fit that criteria.

Fitz is the leader in AZ with 9 playoff games played. Adrian Wilson and Kurt Warner played in 4 along with a few others. Then a smaller group with 3 games with Arians.

Sad list

 

[kerouac9]

We hope he’s the clear #1.

He’s gonna get every chance. Even Quenton Johnson played 65% of the snaps for the Chargers last year.

 

[MadCardDisease]

We hope he’s the clear #1.

The only way MHJr doesn’t start the season as the clear #1 is if MHJr gets suspended for the season because he went to a sports book and bet his entire signing bonus on him starting the season as the Cardinals clear #1 WR.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He’s gonna get every chance. Even Quenton Johnson played 65% of the snaps for the Chargers last year.

The only way MHJr doesn’t start the season as the clear #1 is if MHJr gets suspended for the season because he went to a sports book and bet his entire signing bonus on him starting the season as the Cardinals clear #1 WR.

He will get the snaps and looks of a #1. But he will only be a #1 if he does something with those snaps and looks. Lots of high first round picks had expectations. Lots of them failed to become #1’s.

 

[Cardiac]

He will get the snaps and looks of a #1. But he will only be a #1 if he does something with those snaps and looks. Lots of high first round picks had expectations. Lots of them failed to become #1’s.

Agree, how do you think MHJ will do? Fitzs rookie level or better or worse.
I'm thinking better because MHJ seems to be in a better head space. More professional and driven than young #11.

 

[oaken1]

Agree, how do you think MHJ will do? Fitzs rookie level or better or worse.
I'm thinking better because MHJ seems to be in a better head space. More professional and driven than young #11.

Marv gonna have it rough I think. Every coaching staff in the nfl saw all the pre draft hype that we did. Good chance they're going to make Marv earn it... I don't expect he will get typical rookie treatment by defenses

 

[kerouac9]

Agree, how do you think MHJ will do? Fitzs rookie level or better or worse.
I'm thinking better because MHJ seems to be in a better head space. More professional and driven than young #11.

I think he gets more than Fitz’s 780 yards but hope he gets his 8 TDs.

 

[Stout]

Agree, how do you think MHJ will do? Fitzs rookie level or better or worse.
I'm thinking better because MHJ seems to be in a better head space. More professional and driven than young #11.

I'll go at least 80 catches, 1100 yards, and 10 TDs.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

yeah Fitz had the willing, but limited, Josh McCown throwing to him.

 

[kerouac9]

yeah Fitz had the, willing, but limited, Josh McCown throwing to him.

And also competing for touches with Anquan Boldin.

Fitz, Q, and Bryant Johnson all had more than 100 targets for the 2004 Cardinals.

On the 2009 Cardinals, Fitz had 153 targets and Q had 127.

On the 2015 Cardinals, Fitz still had 145 targets.

 

[BigDavis75]

And also competing for touches with Anquan Boldin.

Fitz, Q, and Bryant Johnson all had more than 100 targets for the 2004 Cardinals.

On the 2009 Cardinals, Fitz had 153 targets and Q had 127.

On the 2015 Cardinals, Fitz still had 145 targets.

One less game as well. Assuming he stays healthy, I’d consider MHJ not surpassing 780 yards as a pretty big disappointment.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

honestly MHJ is a decent bet for rookie of the year.

 

[CardNots]

honestly MHJ is a decent bet for rookie of the year.

If opposing defenses drape double coverage on him, he could struggle early in his career.

We will need others to step up to the plate and make the defense pay when doubling MHJ.

 

[kerouac9]

honestly MHJ is a decent bet for rookie of the year.

He’s +750 and the favorite after the 2 QBs. I like Malik Nabors more.

 

[Stout]

If opposing defenses drape double coverage on him, he could struggle early in his career.

We will need others to step up to the plate and make the defense pay when doubling MHJ.

How's that work out to stop the other top QBs in the league? If MHJ is who we think he is, no amount of double teaming will stop him from putting up the numbers.

 

[oaken1]

How's that work out to stop the other top QBs in the league? If MHJ is who we think he is, no amount of double teaming will stop him from putting up the numbers.

But that's the thing. D coordinators are going to make him prove that it wasn't all hype...which helps MikeWilly and Trey... early on I would rather see kyler feed them than try and force it to Marv.

Of course... game 3, we're down by 5 with 30 seconds left...3 and 12...everybody is blanketed...
Throw it to the kid and see what happens

 

[DVontel]

He’s +750 and the favorite after the 2 QBs. I like Malik Nabors more.

I don’t know why you got downvoted here. Nabers is at a spot where he’ll get force-fed the ball cause he’s really the only target, while here, a good bit of targets will be going to McBride and we’ll run the ball a solid bit.

 

[kerouac9]

I don’t know why you got downvoted here. Nabers is at a spot where he’ll get force-fed the ball cause he’s really the only target, while here, a good bit of targets will be going to McBride and we’ll run the ball a solid bit.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[CardNots]

Haters gonna hate.

Not hate per say, more like anti-darksider chaff

 

[Stout]

Haters gonna hate.

Or fans prefer talking up the best WR prospect in the draft who also happens to be on their own team? You should be downvoted by the whole board just for that

 

[kerouac9]

Or fans prefer talking up the best WR prospect in the draft who also happens to be on their own team? You should be downvoted by the whole board just for that

Not being able to say what you believe because homerism is the only acceptable opinion would make this board even worse than it is today.

 

[Stout]

Not being able to say what you believe because homerism is the only acceptable opinion would make this board even worse than it is today.

You're equating people downvoting your opinion to "not being able to say what you believe because homerism is the only acceptable opinion." To say the least, that doesn't track. Furthermore, "haters gonna hate" puts the onus on others.

I'm not going to give you the "poor wittle K9" treatment because, for once, I'm going the homer route. It's like that one former Japanese emperor: Nagannahappen.

 

[Stout]

Not being able to say what you believe because homerism is the only acceptable opinion would make this board even worse than it is today.

First of all, distort much?