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The loss of Massie seems to be being overlooked. He was a very good RT last season and is much better than Sowell.

Humphries is a 21 year old rookie. He'll be fine.

I'm not concerned until they start playing for real. What happens these 4 games has absolutely no bearing on how they'll play September 13.
 

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Mitch, you must be wrong, because I agree with most of your assumptions. Where I disagree:
RB-I'm going with Taylor over Williams, but wouldn't be shocked if it goes your way.
WR-I agree, and think that Golden was sunk with two drops in consecutive games. I'm just wondering who will return kicks? JJ can be the PR but can he also be the KR?
DL-I'm going with age over experience and think we'll keep Stinson over Shaughnessy. The fact that Shaughnessy started against SD tells me that he is on the bubble and the coaches wanted to see how he could do with the 'ones'.
ILB-I have Demens over Fua, based on his experience. But Fua excites me and Demens doesn't.
OLB-Only think we keep four. Woodley only makes the team if he can show that he can still get to the QB, as I doubt that he can contribute much to ST's. I sure WISH that Riddick could get on the field, as he seems to have the ability to be a multi-sack guy.
CB-It's Brooks vs. the waiver wire.
S-I don't think we'll keep Clemons. The NY Giants have had about six safeties go down with injuries, and it's possible they'd be interested in him.

Mitch, thanks for another great job.
 
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Mitch, you must be wrong, because I agree with most of your assumptions. Where I disagree:
RB-I'm going with Taylor over Williams, but wouldn't be shocked if it goes your way.
WR-I agree, and think that Golden was sunk with two drops in consecutive games. I'm just wondering who will return kicks? JJ can be the PR but can he also be the KR?
DL-I'm going with age over experience and think we'll keep Stinson over Shaughnessy. The fact that Shaughnessy started against SD tells me that he is on the bubble and the coaches wanted to see how he could do with the 'ones'.
ILB-I have Demens over Fua, based on his experience. But Fua excites me and Demens doesn't.
OLB-Only think we keep four. Woodley only makes the team if he can show that he can still get to the QB, as I doubt that he can contribute much to ST's. I sure WISH that Riddick could get on the field, as he seems to have the ability to be a multi-sack guy.
CB-It's Brooks vs. the waiver wire.
S-I don't think we'll keep Clemons. The NY Giants have had about six safeties go down with injuries, and it's possible they'd be interested in him.

Mitch, thanks for another great job.

I think you answered the Williams over Taylor question when you asked who will be the KO returner---Williams had the best one this week---the kid is fearless, he really "stokes it" as Wolfley said.

The question the coaches might consider is Taylor versus Hughes. I agree with you that Taylor will be given every ounce of consideration. The kid is a winner.

You are right about J.J.---I think he is winning the punt returner job. Plus, Patrick Peterson is going to get some timely punt return opportunities.

I think you make a very interesting point about Shaughnessy---but what is curious to me is why they shifted him inside where there is such depth, when the SOLB they are replacing him with, Lorenzo Alexander, isn't even remotely good at stopping the run.

I think they may be shopping Shaughnessy, which may account as well for why they started him.

Again---you answered the Fua versus Demens debate when you said Fua excites you and Demens doesn't. They need cover LBers and Fua has the length and speed to be a real factor in that role.

The coaches like Stinson---I think they will keep him, so I agree with you, especially if they trade Shaughnessy. The coaches feel that Stinson can play the athletic NT role they had in mind for Peters, when need be.

Woodley is a question mark---he needs to show he can create more pressure on the QB than what he has thus far. I think they will believe in him being able to show up on game day.

Right on: Brooks versus the waiver wire.

As for Chris Clemons---it said something that he was on the field the first time the team went into the nickel. The coaches have been using him in the nickel all throughout TC. They like him in coverage---an area they need to address, particularly in covering TEs.

I think the new Larry Foote---is Deone Bucannon. When BA has been asked about what the team is going to do at ILB, especially with Spoon injured, BA has said "Deone" repeatedly---and Deone started at ILB this week, with Jefferson starting at SS, a boy Jefferson looks primed and ready this year.

You are doing a great job too Garth. Much appreciated.
 
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I was at the game Saturday night and re-watched the game on video last night. I don't have enough observations to justify my own thread, so here's this:

- Drew Stanton never takes his eyes off his first read

- Kevin Minter remains invisible

- Jonathan Cooper still ends up on the ground too often (went low or fell down trying to cut/make up for not getting across the nose-tackle on a big run to the left side), but is at least looking like he belongs in the NFL

- Deone Bucannon is the #2 ILB and might play 70-80% of the snaps there this year.

- Expect to see Tyrann Mathieu sent on a lot of blitzes this year. He was sent twice last night at least; with that frequency, he has to get more effective

- I'm not sure why I'm seeing Patrick Peterson and Tyrann Mathieu out in punt coverage on multiple plays.

- I saw Cooper, Larsen, and Shipley making good pulls on running plays last night

- I like watching Palmer play with a chip on his shoulder, but he has to be careful not to start looking like he's showing up young kids

- If we're seeing how involved Larry Fitzgerald is going to be in the offense this year, his $10.85M salary cap number becomes even more mystifying — the league's worst contract
 

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Kareem made a few plays last night.. and can't make the club from the tub. Riddick has to add bulk and can probably be stashed on the practice squad at this point.

That's a shortsighted view for a temporary situation. And Riddick would never clear waivers. His upside is too intriguing. He hasn't proven himself to be a star, but hes also not been a bust.

If say Von Miller were injured, would you say "Cant make the team from the tub, maybe we can stash him on the PS".

Riddick isn't Von Miller, but we also don't know what he is.

What we do know is what Kareem is. Hes an enormous disappointment and sub par in every aspect. Cutting him would be absolutely painless. Riddicks "maybe" is more valuable than Kareems "what is".
 
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I started getting concerned on DJ when I saw his Twitter handle was @CashoutHump.

Hopefully its just immaturity. Needs to get his ass in gear.
 

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TJ--------I fully agree with your assessment of running backs, right down to the order in which you have them. Nice job
 

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I started getting concerned on DJ when I saw his Twitter handle was @CashoutHump.

Hopefully its just immaturity. Needs to get his ass in gear.

Thus far, knee deep has been a very appropriate nick name for him
 
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- If we're seeing how involved Larry Fitzgerald is going to be in the offense this year, his $10.85M salary cap number becomes even more mystifying — the league's worst contract
Everyone knows what Fitz will bring to the offense; there is not much point in exposing him to injury during meaningless games.
 

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Everyone knows what Fitz will bring to the offense; there is not much point in exposing him to injury during meaningless games.

if he was getting open they would be throwing to him. I have no problem with his deal though. hopefully we win a bowl while he is on the team and when this two years are up if he wants to leave for money he can go ahead and do that but at that point, we should be able to low ball him. (assuming we win a ring)
 

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A couple other things kickin' around my noggin:

- The Nike jerseys are garbage. I don't know if they re-designed them or something, but the "sweat bib" that appears below the numbers on the front and back looks terrible.

- Our tight ends are the most anonymous group in the world. Momah has been the most hyped player, and he stinks. Troy Niklas plays like a sixth-round pick. Jermaine Gresham is too bored to dress.
 
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Iupati is the worst loss by a long shot. We can survive w/o Peters and, to an extent, Massie (I do think he's an upgrade over Sowell though). Humphries being as immature as people have indicated is a bit concerning. This would be his opportunity to seize a starting role and never look back, but he's not taking it seriously. Did not like the pick in April and am certainly not liking it right now.

I think Chris Johnson sticks as the team can't rely on Ellington due to health reasons and a veteran presence would actually help him, especially one with a similar skillset. I think the pecking order for RB is:

A. Ellington
D. Johnson
C. Johnson
K. Williams
R. Hughes

Center was a concern and the loss of Iupati doesn't help. If Larsen is starting, the team is going to have to keep a blocker to pick up the man he's inevitably going to let sneak into the backfield. Fortunately, Cooper looks healthy and confident so far this preseason, so that's one less worry on the line.

ILB is terrible. Spoon needs to get healthy and who the hell knows if/when Washington will be back. Ideally, both are back and ready during the 2nd half of the season, but that's wishful thinking at this point.

Other than that, this is a pretty good football team with depth at many areas.

+1...all of it. Great post.
 

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A couple other things kickin' around my noggin:

- The Nike jerseys are garbage. I don't know if they re-designed them or something, but the "sweat bib" that appears below the numbers on the front and back looks terrible.

- Our tight ends are the most anonymous group in the world. Momah has been the most hyped player, and he stinks. Troy Niklas plays like a sixth-round pick. Jermaine Gresham is too bored to dress.
Totally agree on the dark part of the unis at the bottom.. huge eyesore!
 

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I started getting concerned on DJ when I saw his Twitter handle was @CashoutHump.

Hopefully its just immaturity. Needs to get his ass in gear.
His scouting report was that he was an immature kid but highly talented. He'll grow/mature into a nice OT.
 

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Mitch, FWIW, Jess Root (Revenge of the Birds) thinks the team will only keep two QB's, with either LT or Sims being signed to the PS. He doesn't think either will be claimed if cut. The last PS game, which I'm guessing will be shared by LT and PS could determine if we keep a 3rd QB, as I don't see either playing much this week.
 

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Mitch, FWIW, Jess Root (Revenge of the Birds) thinks the team will only keep two QB's, with either LT or Sims being signed to the PS. He doesn't think either will be claimed if cut. The last PS game, which I'm guessing will be shared by LT and PS could determine if we keep a 3rd QB, as I don't see either playing much this week.

I think stanton will touch the third quarter and then pass the torch to our two stooges. game 4 will have stanton for maybe a quarter and those two the rest of the game. Even if we are cutting them, you dont want our top 2 getting injured in week 4.
 
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Mitch, FWIW, Jess Root (Revenge of the Birds) thinks the team will only keep two QB's, with either LT or Sims being signed to the PS. He doesn't think either will be claimed if cut. The last PS game, which I'm guessing will be shared by LT and PS could determine if we keep a 3rd QB, as I don't see either playing much this week.

MJ has been saying 2 QBs for a few weeks. However, I don't see that, Garth. I think, just to be sure, BA will keep a #3 QB. Plus, Stanton is in a contract year---which makes it more important to hold on to the young QB who BA likes best, either Thomas or Sims.

I think there is a decent chance that both Thomas and Sims could get claimed---when you think about it, they are ideal #3 QBs. They have good arms, they are mobile and athletic, which is what you want from a scout team QB to prepare for the athletic QBs in the league and it's what you want from your own QB down the line.

Both Thomas and Sims have good tape going for them. Thomas week 1. Sims week 2. Their agents will be sending those tapes to the other 31 teams.
 
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I think there is a decent chance that both Thomas and Sims could get claimed---when you think about it, they are ideal #3 QBs. They have good arms, they are mobile and athletic, which is what you want from a scout team QB to prepare for the athletic QBs in the league and it's what you want from your own QB down the line.

Both Thomas and Sims have good tape going for them. Thomas week 1. Sims week 2. Their agents will be sending those tapes to the other 31 teams.
I think it's more likely that neither would get claimed. Every team already has the Blake Sims/Logan Thomas/developmental guy currently on their roster and that guy already knows their system.

Unless they think Sims or Thomas are world's better, which I doubt would be the case, they'll stick with their own guy.
 

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I honestly think Sims would easily get picked up off of PS unlike Logan.
 

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Remember if Sims is on our PS and some other team wants him, we have the option to move him to our '53'. Or at least that is how I think it works.
 

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I think it's more likely that neither would get claimed. Every team already has the Blake Sims/Logan Thomas/developmental guy currently on their roster and that guy already knows their system.

Unless they think Sims or Thomas are world's better, which I doubt would be the case, they'll stick with their own guy.

I agree 100% with this, neither Sims or Thomas is what people would consider as rare gems or anything. Both are dime a dozen third string/PS developmental guys with more flaws then strengths.
 

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For the scout team is better Sims considering he has a similiar elusivness of Wilson and koepernick
Even if Thomas is athletic is not enough agile to elude pass rushers
 
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I think it's more likely that neither would get claimed. Every team already has the Blake Sims/Logan Thomas/developmental guy currently on their roster and that guy already knows their system.

Unless they think Sims or Thomas are world's better, which I doubt would be the case, they'll stick with their own guy.

Yup. Another team might want one or another on their practice squad, but I don't see them adding one to their active roster. So many teams are going to a 2 QB depth chart these days. Once training camp ends, the time to develop a #3 QB also terminates until next training camp.

Cut 'em both and put one on your practice squad — maybe. Stanton has been utterly unable to stay healthy for his career.
 

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Sims is not a perfect mobile QB, but he closer to one than LT. Put him on PS to prep for Kap and Wilson.
 
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